Hoosier Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 DAY 3 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 0229 AM CDT THU JUL 24 2014 VALID 261200Z - 271200Z ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM THE CNTRL PLAINS TO THE OH VALLEY/LOWER GREAT LAKES... ...SUMMARY... CLUSTERS OF SEVERE STORMS WILL BE POSSIBLE FROM THE CENTRAL GREAT PLAINS TO THE GREAT LAKES AND CENTRAL APPALACHIANS. ...SYNOPSIS... A VIGOROUS MID-LEVEL CYCLONE OVER THE SRN PRAIRIE PROVINCES WILL ACCELERATE SE INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST BY EARLY SUN. A BROAD BELT OF STRONG MID-LEVEL WLYS SHOULD BE PREVALENT FROM THE NRN PLAINS TO THE LOWER GREAT LAKES. AT THE SURFACE...A QUASI-STATIONARY FRONT SHOULD BE DRAPED ACROSS PARTS OF THE CNTRL PLAINS TO LOWER GREAT LAKES. AN OCCLUDED FRONT WILL EXTEND S OF THE PRIMARY CANADIAN CYCLONE ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST. ...CNTRL PLAINS TO OH VALLEY/LOWER GREAT LAKES... S OF THE QUASI-STATIONARY FRONT...A STRONG TO EXTREMELY UNSTABLE AIR MASS SHOULD BE PRESENT FROM PARTS OF THE CNTRL PLAINS TO MIDWEST AS THE PLAINS EML PLUME IS ADVECTED E TOWARDS THE NRN APPALACHIANS. WAA-DRIVEN ELEVATED TSTM CLUSTERS SHOULD BE ONGOING AT 12Z/SAT OVER PARTS OF THE MIDWEST. IN THE WAKE OF THIS ACTIVITY...CAPPING SHOULD LARGELY INHIBIT SURFACE-BASED TSTM DEVELOPMENT UNTIL LATE DAY. THE DEGREE OF INHIBITION SHOULD GENERALLY BE LESS COMPARED TO D2...OWING TO MINOR HEIGHT FALLS AND COOLER 700 MB TEMPERATURES /ESPECIALLY E OF THE MS RIVER/. SCATTERED CLUSTERS OF STORMS SHOULD FORM BY EVENING WITHIN THE FRONTAL ZONE. GIVEN THE DEGREE OF INSTABILITY...ALONG WITH STRENGTHENING DEEP-LAYER SHEAR...AN ORGANIZED MCS OR TWO MAY DEVELOP. LARGE HAIL WILL BE MOST PROBABLE DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON AND EVENING...WITH POTENTIAL FOR ONE OR MORE SWATHS OF DAMAGING WINDS DURING THE EVENING INTO SAT NIGHT. IF SHORTER-TERM MESOSCALE PREDICTABILITY INCREASES...CORRIDORS OF HIGHER SEVERE PROBABILITIES MAY BECOME EVIDENT IN LATER OUTLOOKS. ...UPPER MS VALLEY... DEEP-LAYER SHEAR WILL BE FAVORABLE FOR ORGANIZED CONVECTION ALONG THE OCCLUDED FRONT SAT AFTERNOON/EVENING. THE PRIMARY UNCERTAINTIES ARE -- 1) RICHER LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE REMAINING S OF THE CNTRL PLAINS TO MIDWEST FRONT...2) POTENTIAL ELEVATED STORMS OVER SD LATE D2 HINDERING DIURNAL DESTABILIZATION AND 3) STRENGTH OF CONVERGENCE ALONG THE OCCLUDED FRONT. STILL...AN ISOLATED SEVERE HAIL AND LOCALLY DAMAGING WIND THREAT APPEARS POSSIBLE. ..GRAMS.. 07/24/2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 Actually have decent mid-upper level flow for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 this is it, LAF finally lands one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 this is it, LAF finally lands one Have to admit when I saw you replied I thought it was going to be along the lines of "non-starter, best action well south of mby" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Have to admit when I saw you replied I thought it was going to be along the lines of "non-starter, best action well south of mby" i thought it was too obvious to bother with that line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 this is it, LAF finally lands one Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 Haha. Put it this way, we have a way better chance of seeing severe storms than reaching 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Put it this way, we have a way better chance of seeing severe storms than reaching 90. I'm not sure that's really encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Def looking like a PIA-BMI-LAF hit on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizardMafia Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Haha. Were jinxed now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 We'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxhstn74 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 A Relatively Cool July Will Support a Below Normal Summer Thus Far Severe Weather Potential This Weekend! http://weatherhistorian.blogspot.com/2014/07/a-relatively-cool-july-will-support.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Both ILN and IND have impressive AFD's. Haven't seen anything out of ILN like this in a long long time. .SHORT TERM /6 AM FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT/...THIS PERIOD WILL BE CHARACTERIZED BY A LARGE SWING/CHANGE INAIRMASSES AND QUIESCENT WEATHER ON FRIDAY MORNING TO POTENTIALSEVERE STORMS AND HEAVY RAINFALL BY SATURDAY NIGHT.AT 25.12Z...595DM 500MB ANTICYCLONE WILL REMAIN SITUATED OVER NEWMEXICO WITH A VERY DYNAMIC AND ANOMALOUS CLOSED LOW CRESTING THERIDGE OVER SASK/ALBERTA...FLATTENING THE RIDGE SOMEWHAT. THEPERSISTENT ERN CONUS LONGWAVE TROUGH WILL STILL EXIST IN APOSITIVE TILT FASHION FROM LA/AL NORTHEAST THROUGH THE UPPER OHIOVALLEY WHERE A CYCLONE WILL EXIST EAST OF HUDSON BAY.THROUGH THE DAY FRIDAY...THE CLOSED LOW WILL MOVE SLOWLY EASTWARDWHILE THE RIDGE IN THE WEST FLATTENS...WHICH DEAMPLIFIES THE ERNCONUS LONGWAVE TROUGH FURTHER AND SHUNTS IT EAST. AS SUCH...SFCHIGH PRESSURE AND COOL/DRY WEATHER WILL BUILD EASTWARD WITH RETURNFLOW BEGINNING TO OUR WEST. THE BULK OF FRIDAY WILL BEGORGEOUS...LOW HUMIDITY...MIX OF SUN AND CLOUDS AND TEMPSREBOUNDING INTO THE UPPER 70S.THAT IS WHERE MORE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES BEGIN AND THE ENTRY POINTINTO WHAT WILL LIKELY BE AN ACTIVE WEEKEND. BY SATURDAY MORNINGTHE POTENT CLOSED LOW WILL BE APPROACHING LAKE WINNIPEG WHILE AMORE SUBTLE SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS EJECTED ATOP THE FLATTENING NERNQUADRANT OF THE WRN RIDGE...DOWN THE SLIDE OF INCREASINGLY FASTWNWLY MID LEVEL FLOW INTO THE GREAT LAKES. ON THE NOSE OF A LOWLEVEL MOISTURE TRANSPORT MAXIMUM...AND AT THE EDGE OF AN STRONGPLAINS-BASED ELEVATED MIXED LAYER /WARM...DRY...STEEP LAPSE RATEENVIRONMENT/...CONVECTIVE INSTABILITY WILL BE ADVECTED IN FROM THEWEST LATER FRIDAY NIGHT WITH MUCAPE SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASING ABOVETHE EML LATER IN THE NIGHT. AN MCS OR TWO IS LIKELY TO BE MANIFESTEDON THE LEADING EDGE OF THESE ENTITIES...AND WILL BE APPROACHINGTHE AREA FRIDAY NIGHT/SAT MORNING WITH TIMING/LOCATION VERY MUCH INDOUBT. PWAT WILL DOUBLE /0.60" TO 1.20"/ IN LESS THAN 12 HOURS ASTHIS DESTABILIZATION ALOFT TAKES PLACE. CONFIDENCE ON WHERE THISACTIVITY MOVES IS NOT HIGH...BUT DID INCREASE THE SHOWER/STORMCHANCES FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY MORNING OVER A LARGE PORTION OFTHE AREA TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS POTENTIAL. PER 25.12ZECMWF/GFS/NAM...SOMEWHERE IN INDIANA/NORTHERN OHIO SEEMS THE BESTBET AT 12Z SAT MORNING.AS THE REMNANTS OR WHAT REMAINS OF ANY STORM ACTIVITY MOVES ACROSSTHE AREA SATURDAY MORNING...HEIGHTS WILL CONTINUE TO SLOWLY RISE IN THEWAKE OF THE LEAD SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND AHEAD OF THE POTENT CLOSEDLOW NOW DIGGING INTO MINNESOTA. THE EML WILL BECOME ENTRENCHEDOVER THE AREA WITH POINT FCST /BUFR/ SOUNDINGS FROM 25.12Z NAM ANDGFS BOTH SHOWING STRONG INHIBITION FROM LATE MORNINGTHROUGH THE BULK OF THE AFTERNOON. THUS...ATTEMPTED TO SHOW AREDUCTION IN RAIN CHANCES DURING THIS TIME...AS MLCINH ON MANYSOUNDINGS EXCEEDS 200 J/KG AND IN SOME DATA EXCEEDS 300J/KG. THIS SHOULD PROMOTE A WARM...INCREASINGLY HUMID DAY WITHDECREASING ELEVATED STORM THREATS...WITH DEWPOINTS RISING TOWARD70F AND AIR TEMPS IN THE MID/UPPER 80S.SATURDAY EVENING/OVERNIGHT...CONFIDENCE IS LOW ON THE DETAILS BUTA RENEWED LOW LEVEL JET/MOISTURE TRANSPORT SIGNAL WILL DEVELOPAHEAD OF THE DIGGING MN/WI CLOSED LOW...POINTED INTO IL/IN/OH.THERE MAY BE OUTFLOW/DIFFERENTIAL HEATING BOUNDARIES FROM SATMORNING CONVECTION...BUT EITHER WAY FORCING BECOMES GOOD ENOUGHAND A SIGNAL CROPS UP IN THE DATA FOR NOCTURNAL MCSPOTENTIAL...WHICH COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM OHIO BACK INTO ILLINOIS.THIS MAY BE INITIALLY ROOTED ABOVE THE CAP BUT GIVEN RESERVOIR OFSTRONG INSTBY AMIDST THE EML...AND IMPRESSIVE SHEAR...THERE ISCONCERN FOR AN ORGANIZED SEVERE WEATHER EVENT SAT NIGHT INTOSUNDAY MORNING WITH PRIMARY FOCUS OF DAMAGING WIND VIA FORWARDPROPAGATING CONVECTIVE SYSTEM. IN FACT...CIPS ANALOGS INDICATESTHAT THE SYNOPTIC PATTERN INGREDIENTS AS BEING PREDICTED BY THE25.12Z NAM HAS PRODUCED A NUMBER OF WIND-PRODUCING MCS SYSTEMSACROSS THE CORN BELT/OHIO VALLEY. A CLOSER LOOK AT THE DETAILS/EVENTS WITHIN THE PATTERN MATCH -- TOP 15 ANALOGS ON VARIOUSDOMAINS/ SHOWS A COUPLE HIGHER-END EVENTS OF EITHER IN TERMS OFAREA AFFECTED OR NUMBER OF REPORTS...AND THESE SIGNALS WEREPRESENT ON 25.00Z GFS PATTERN MATCHES...SO FEEL CONFIDENT INBEGINNING TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THIS POTENTIAL IN HAZ WX OUTLOOKPRODUCT FOR SAT INTO SUNDAY. DEGREE OF INSTBY AND 0-3KM SHEAR AREFAVORABLE.LURKING IN THE TALL GRASS IS HEAVY RAIN POTENTIAL WITH GEFSREFORECAST PROBABILITIES SUGGESTING THAT RAIN AMOUNTS BEINGSUGGESTED BY ENSEMBLE MEAN /ALREADY DECENT/ MAY ACTUALLY BE UNDERDONE INTHIS MULTI-MCS SCENARIO OVER SATURDAY/SUNDAY. WPC ALREADY RUNNINGSLGT RISKS FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ON DAY 3 /SAT AND SAT NIGHT/WHICH SEEMS REASONABLE BASED ON REFORECAST DATA AND 25.12ZDETERMINISTIC RUNS SHOWING MCS POTENTIAL. 25.00Z NAEFSPROBABILITIES ALSO CENTERED ON OHIO. WLY LOW LEVEL JET AHEAD OF ADIGGING UPPER TROUGH /WHICH IS THE PATTERN ON SUNDAY MORNING/ MAYPROMOTE BACKBUILDING AND TRAINING ON THE SRN FRINGE OF ANY FORWARDPROPAGATING MCS.&&.LONG TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/...ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN WILL BE IN PLACE FOR THE BEGINNING OF THELONG TERM PERIOD. MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT ON A MCS MOVINGACROSS THE FA SUNDAY MORNING. THIS FEATURE WILL BRING WIDESPREADTHUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY ACROSS THE AREA. WITH MODEL AGREEMENTINCREASED PRECIPITATION CHANCES SIGNIFICANTLY DURING THIS TIME.THERE IS A DECENT CHANCE OF SEVERE WEATHER WITH THIS FEATURE WITHDAMAGING WINDS THE PRIMARY THREAT. AN ISOLATED TORNADO CANNOT BERULED OUT HOWEVER. WILL ADD MENTION OF THIS THREAT TO THE HWO. INADDITION TO THE SEVERE THREAT THIS FEATURE WILL BRING MODERATE TOHEAVY RAIN TO THE AREA WHICH MAY LEAD TO SOME FLOODING ISSUES ASWELL.ADDITIONAL THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY WILL BE LIKELY DURING THE AFTERNOONAND EVENING HOURS ON SUNDAY AS A COLD FRONT APPROACHES AND WORKSINTO THE REGION. THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF INSTABILITY ACROSS THEAREA FOR SUNDAY. THERE IS THE ADDITIONAL CHANCE FOR SEVERE WEATHERSUNDAY AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING HOURS. DAMAGING WINDS AND LARGEHAIL WILL BE POSSIBLE. IN ADDITION A TORNADO THREAT WILL ALSO BEPOSSIBLE. SOME QUESTIONS REMAIN ON THE STRENGTH OF THIS SECONDEVENT AS THIS WILL BE DEPENDENT ON THE FIRST ROUND OFTHUNDERSTORMS. WILL ALSO HIGHLIGHT THIS SEVERE THREAT IN THE HWO.WITH MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS THERE WILL AGAINBE THE THREAT OF FLOODING.THUNDERSTORMS MOVE OUT OF THE FA SUNDAY NIGHT AND COOLER AIR WILL BEUSHERED INTO THE FA. AN UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCE ON MONDAY WILLALLOW FOR DECENT CLOUD COVER AND SOME SHOWER ACTIVITY. THIS WILLKEEP TEMPERATURES COOL AND WELL BELOW NORMAL. HIGH TEMPERATURESARE ONLY EXPECTED TO BE IN THE LOW TO MID 70S ON MONDAY. HIGHPRESSURE THEN WORKS INTO THE AREA FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE LONG TERMALLOWING FOR DRY CONDITIONS. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL GRADUALLY WARMEACH DAY AFTER TUESDAY. TUESDAY LOOKS TO HAVE TO COOLEST HIGHTEMPERATURES OF THE LONG TERM PERIOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 IND .SHORT TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/...ISSUED AT 345 PM EDT THU JUL 24 2014FORECAST CHALLENGES ARE PLENTIFUL...AS THE CURRENT STRETCH OF DRYPLEASANT WEATHER GIVES WAY TO A MUCH MORE ACTIVE PATTERN WITHPOTENTIALLY MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SEVERE WEATHER OVER THEWEEKEND.THE SHORT TERM PERIOD WILL BE HIGHLIGHTED BY A TRANSITION TO AFAMILIAR THEME THIS SUMMER...AS NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT DEVELOPSBETWEEN THE FLATTENED YET STRONG RIDGE OVER THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINSAND AN ANOMALOUSLY STRONG UPPER LOW TRACKING ACROSS THE CANADIANPRAIRIES. THE UPPER LOW WILL MOVE SOUTHEAST OVER THE WEEKEND...EVENTUALLY ARRIVING OVER THE GREAT LAKES BY SUNDAY. IN DOINGSO...THE UPPER WAVE WILL ASSIST IN FORCING THE RIDGE WEST INTO THEFOUR CORNERS REGION WHILE AMPLIFYING OUR OLD FRIEND THE EASTERNTROUGH.BY FAR THE PICK DAY OF THE SHORT TERM WILL BE FRIDAY WITH THE REGIONSTILL FIRMLY UNDER THE CONTROL OF SLOWLY DEPARTING HIGH PRESSURE.EXPECT A GOOD DEAL OF SUNSHINE WITH A SLOW BUT STEADY INCREASE INMID AND HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS AS WARM FRONTAL CONVECTION TAKES PLACE TOTHE NORTHWEST OF THE FORECAST AREA. NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION THATSOME OF THIS CONVECTION MAY MAKE IT INTO THE NORTHERN WABASH VALLEYPRIOR TO SUNSET FRIDAY...ALBEIT IN A WEAKENED CONDITION AS IT MOVESINTO A DRIER AND MORE STABLE AIRMASS OVER CENTRAL INDIANA. STORMCOVERAGE IS LIKELY TO INCREASE OVERNIGHT FRIDAY HOWEVER AS A LOWLEVEL JET NOSES INTO THE MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...WITH MOISTURE ANDELEVATED INSTABILITY INCREASING ACROSS THE NORTHERN HALF OF THEHOOSIER STATE. WILL CARRY CHANCE POPS FRIDAY NIGHT MAINLY OVER THENORTHERN COUNTIES WITH LOWER POPS FURTHER SOUTH.OTHER THAN SOME INITIAL CONVECTIVE DEBRIS SATURDAY MORNING...SURGEOF WARM AND INCREASINGLY HUMID AIR WILL QUICKLY ADVECT INTO THE OHIOVALLEY...MAKING THE PLEASANT CONDITIONS EXPERIENCED TODAY ANDTOMORROW A LONG DISTANT MEMORY. CONVECTIVE REDEVELOPMENT SATURDAYAFTERNOON IS THERE...BUT SOME QUESTIONS DO EXIST THAT MAKECONFIDENCE LOWER THAN DESIRED AT THIS POINT ON SEVERE WEATHERPOTENTIAL PRIOR TO SATURDAY EVENING. STRONG HEATING OVER THE REGIONSOUTH OF A FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL SUPPORT A HIGHLY UNSTABLEENVIRONMENT WITH PROGRESSIVELY DEEPER MOISTURE ARRIVING DURING THEDAY. HOWEVER...MODELS CONTINUE TO ADVERTISE A RATHER STOUT CAP WITH700MB TEMPS AT 12-14C WELL INTO THE AFTERNOON WHICH IS LIKELY TOLIMIT COVERAGE AND INTENSITY OF STORMS OVER THE REGION. EXPECTSCATTERED STORMS...WITH A POTENTIAL UPTICK IN COVERAGE TOWARDSEVENING AS THE CAP WEAKENS.HIGHEST CONFIDENCE IN POTENTIAL FOR STORMS AND SEVERE WEATHER COMESSATURDAY NIGHT AS THE CAP COMPLETELY ERODES FOR MUCH OF THE AREAWHILE A STRONG SURFACE WAVE TRACKS ALONG THE BOUNDARY. WITH ABUNDANTINSTABILITY...EXCEPTIONALLY DEEP MOISTURE WITH PWATS IN EXCESS OF 2INCHES BEING FUELED BY THE NOCTURNAL LOW LEVEL JET AND NICE MID ANDUPPER LEVEL FORCING AVAILABLE...SIGNS POINT TOWARDS UPWARDCONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT IMPACTING THE FORECAST AREA OVERNIGHT...MOSTLIKELY INTO AN MCS. THE PRESENCE OF DEEPER SHEAR ALSO LENDS ITSELFTO MORE ORGANIZED ROBUST CONVECTION WITH ALL MODES OF SEVERE WEATHERON THE TABLE. TORRENTIAL RAINFALL AND LOCALIZED FLOODING WILL ALSOBE POSSIBLE WITH THE TROPICAL AIRMASS IN PLACE. FEEL COMFORTABLE ININTRODUCING LIKELY POPS SATURDAY NIGHT OVER THE ENTIRE FORECASTAREA.SUNDAY FORECAST IS HIGHLY CONDITIONAL ON WHAT OCCURS SATURDAY NIGHT.WHILE DEEPER MOISTURE WILL BE SHIFTED TO THE SOUTHEAST...STRONGERUPPER LOW WILL BE ARRIVING INTO THE GREAT LAKES SUNDAY AFTERNOONWITH RENEWED SURFACE WAVE DEVELOPMENT. AVAILABLE INSTABILITY COULDBE PROBLEMATIC...ESPECIALLY IF EXPECTED CONVECTION SATURDAY NIGHTCOMPLETELY GRUNGES OUT THE AIRMASS IN ITS WAKE FOR MUCH OF SUNDAY.WITH THAT BEING SAID...THE PRESENCE OF RENEWED FORCING ALOFT WITHTHE APPROACH OF THE UPPER WAVE SUPPORTS AT THE VERY LEAST ACONTINUATION OF THE POTENTIAL FOR THUNDERSTORMS AND POSSIBLY ANOTHERCHANCE FOR SEVERE WEATHER. FOR NOW...WILL CARRY HIGH CHANCE POPS.TEMPS...GENERALLY TRENDED TOWARDS MAVMOS GUIDANCE FOR TEMPSTHROUGHOUT THE PERIOD WITH THE LONE EXCEPTION OF SATURDAY. MAV SEEMSOVERLY AGGRESSIVE IN ATTEMPTING TO BRING 90+ AIR INTO THE SOUTHWESTHALF OF THE FORECAST AREA. WHILE 850MB TEMPS OF 21-22C NOTED ONMODEL CONSENSUS BY SATURDAY AFTERNOON...THE ARRIVAL OF ANINCREASINGLY MOIST AND HUMID AIRMASS IS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF WIDESPREAD90 DEGREE WEATHER... PARTICULARLY IF ANY SCATTERED CONVECTION CANFIRE AS WELL. UNDERCUT MAV TEMPS BY 2-4 DEGREES ACROSS THE BOARD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Illinois Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 How does this one get messed up? In all seriousness It's been awhile for this region lets hope something gets cranking saturday/sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonOH Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 D2 now mentions a tornado possibility. THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM NERN KS EWD ACROSS THE MIDWEST AND OH RIVER VALLEY... AMENDED FOR OH VALLEY AREA ...SUMMARY... BOUTS OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAPABLE OF DAMAGING WINDS APPEAR LIKELY ACROSS MUCH OF THE MIDWEST AND OHIO VALLEY MAINLY SATURDAY NIGHT...WITH SPORADIC DAMAGING WINDS AND HAIL POSSIBLE ACROSS A LARGE AREA FROM EASTERN KANSAS INTO WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA AND NEW YORK DURING THE DAY. ...SYNOPSIS... A LEADING SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE QUICKLY EWD ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES AND INTO WRN PA AND NY DURING THE DAY...WITH A MORE SUBSTANTIAL TROUGH AMPLIFICATION ACROSS THE NRN PLAINS LATE IN THE PERIOD. AT THE SURFACE...A COLD FRONT WILL TRAVEL QUICKLY EWD ACROSS WI AND UPPER MI...THEN BECOME STALLED SWWD ACROSS NRN IL...IA...AND NRN MO AND KS THROUGH EVENING. A BROAD BELT OF SWLY WINDS IN THE LOW LEVELS WILL DEVELOP AND BRING SUBSTANTIAL MOISTURE NEWD AHEAD OF THE FRONT WITH 70S DEWPOINTS INTO IL AND INDIANA BY LATE AFTERNOON. CLUSTERS OF THUNDERSTORMS ARE LIKELY DURING THE DAY FROM ERN OH INTO WRN PA AND NY IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE LEAD TROUGH...WITH A MORE SUBSTANTIAL WIND THREAT POSSIBLE FROM IL INTO WRN OH OVERNIGHT AS LIFT INCREASES WITH THE LARGER TROUGH AMPLIFICATION. ...LOWER MO VALLEY EWD ACROSS THE OH VALLEY... EARLY DAY STORMS ACROSS INDIANA AND OH SHOULD LIFT RAPIDLY NEWD WITH A MOIST AND UNSTABLE AIR MASS DEVELOPING WITH FULL HEATING TO THE W. WEAK FORCING NEAR THE FRONT MAY LEAD TO A FEW STRONG STORMS DURING THE DAY WITH A WIND AND HAIL THREAT. HOWEVER...THE GREATEST SEVERE WIND POTENTIAL APPEARS TO BE DURING THE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT...FROM CENTRAL IL EWD ACROSS INDIANA...NRN KY AND WRN OH. MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT SHOWING A CORRIDOR OF STRONG STORMS...PERHAPS A SEVERE MCS. GIVEN FAVORABLE LARGE-SCALE FORCING FOR ASCENT...PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES AROUND 2.00 INCHES AND INCREASING SHEAR PROFILES OVERNIGHT...SIGNIFICANT WIND GUSTS WILL BE POSSIBLE. HOWEVER...UNCERTAINTIES REGARDING HOW EARLIER STORMS WILL AFFECT THE AIR MASS WILL PRECLUDE HIGHER PROBABILITIES AT THIS TIME. IN ADDITION...FORECAST HODOGRAPHS ALSO FAVOR SUPERCELLS SHOULD THE STORMS NOT MELD TOGETHER SO QUICKLY. GIVEN THIS POSSIBLE STORM MODE...A COUPLE TORNADOES COULD OCCUR. ...WRN PA...WRN NY...ERN OH... LIFT FROM WARM ADVECTION NEAR AN EFFECTIVE WARM FRONT AND IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE LOW-AMPLITUDE FEATURE MOVING ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES SHOULD RESULT IN SCATTERED STORMS BY EARLY AFTERNOON. VEERING WINDS WITH HEIGHT AND FAVORABLE FLOW ALOFT INDICATE A THREAT OF SUPERCELLS CAPABLE OF HAIL...LOCALLY DAMAGING WIND AND PERHAPS A TORNADO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hopefully we don't screw this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizardMafia Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hopefully we don't screw this up. 7:25 day2probotlk_0600_any.gif SHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddyweather Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Don't know why anyone hasn't mentioned this, but the D3 slight risk mentions the risk of supercells & tornadoes, along with the conditional probability of a strong tornado, along the outflow boundary from the previous evening's MCS for Srn OH, Ern KY, and parts of WV. Also, there is a very large hatched area across OH, central IN, KY, and parts of WV and TN. Mentions very large hail in this area as well. G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonOH Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I'm hoping for the system to shift further north Sunday so I may get more action imby. It doesn't seem like we get hatched for hail very often in my part of Ohio (southwest). I'm hoping I don't jinx it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherPimp Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 2 out of the top 7 events on the CIPS analog list produced a tornado in LAF (6/24/81 and 7/21/03). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hatching added in MO/IL/IN on the 1730z day 2 outlook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Illinois Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hatching added in MO/IL/IN on the 1730z day 2 outlook. day2probotlk_1730_any.gif It even mentions the need for a potential Moderate risk in a later outlook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddyweather Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hatching added in MO/IL/IN on the 1730z day 2 outlook. day2probotlk_1730_any.gif Also mentions a potential upgrade to MDT if some higher dewpoints and more moisture can materialize EDIT: Central IL beat me.... ^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 I don't think we'll have any problem realizing dewpoints in the 70s tomorrow. Moisture quality/depth looks pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwburbschaser Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 2 out of the top 7 events on the CIPS analog list produced a tornado in LAF (6/24/81 and 7/21/03). 8/29/90 @ 06z is on the analog list as well. Can't look past that one in northwest flow type events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 8/29/90 @ 06z is on the analog list as well. Can't look past that one in northwest flow type events. That was a pretty good severe weather day besides the F5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 Very good afternoon afd from IND...worth a read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdgwx Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 There are some big differences in the storm scale modeling vs the regional/global modeling for tomorrow. The 4km NAM nest and both HRW flavors are showing a 2nd equally (or more) significant area of activity in Nebraska moving southeast into KS or IA/MO depending on which variation you look at. The SPC mentioned this activity in the outlook text but declined to spread the 30% area to include it. I wonder if we'll see some big changes coming for the first D1 outlook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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