IsentropicLift Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 lol @ you icepuss*es and your old snowtorm discussion You have something better to talk about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 jerseysnow2010: remember that time 7 years ago when it snowed really hard for 12 hours? snowlover238: yeah! it was like that time 16 years ago when it also snowed really hard for 12 hours! i got more snow 7 years ago though so it was better jerseysnow2010: well i got more snow 16 years ago so that storm was better euroblizzardi95: you're both wrong, there was more wind with the storm 9 years ago and there wasn't a lull so that storm was better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 longbeachdendrites: yeah but the storm 9 years ago had temps in the 50s the next day so it kind of sucked jerseysnow2010: agree but the storm 4 years ago tops them all. no wind so the dendrites fell perfectly intact and didn't mess up ratios like the storm 9 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 lol @ you icepuss*es and your old snowtorm discussion should we discuss your phantom heatwaves instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 longbeachdendrites: yeah but the storm 9 years ago had temps in the 50s the next day so it kind of sucked jerseysnow2010: agree but the storm 4 years ago tops them all. no wind so the dendrites fell perfectly intact and didn't mess up ratios like the storm 9 years ago You should write for the oatmeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 This storm was purely elevation dependent. Those areas away from the higher terrain received about 10-15" of very heavy wet snow, depending on where your exact location is. Once you got a few hundred feet in your pocket the snow totals dramatically increased. I remember driving up to my ex girlfriends house who lived in West Milford at the time and she had three times what I got. I received over 20" in flat land, urban Queens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 This storm was purely elevation dependent. Those areas away from the higher terrain received about 10-15" of very heavy wet snow, depending on where your exact location is. Once you got a few hundred feet in your pocket the snow totals dramatically increased. I remember driving up to my ex girlfriends house who lived in West Milford at the time and she had three times what I got. Central Park had nearly 2 feet and other spots around the city had upwards of 20", so it wasn't all elevation dependent. I was in Manhattan that day and it was a raging blizzard. The R/S line literally split Queens in half for much of the storm and it didn't snow very much where I live until that night. But overnight it went to town as the low pivoted NW into New England and we ended up with nearly a foot of paste here. It was almost NYC's version of the April Fools storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Central Park had nearly 2 feet and other spots around the city had upwards of 20", so it wasn't all elevation dependent. I was in Manhattan that day and it was a raging blizzard. The R/S line literally split Queens in half for much of the storm and it didn't snow very much where I live until that night. But overnight it went to town as the low pivoted NW into New England and we ended up with nearly a foot of paste here. It was almost NYC's version of the April Fools storm. Yup. It was a very rare storm where Western Queens received more then NE Queens. I left my house in Astoria (NW Queens at 8:00a.m.) and it had already been snowing for 2 hours with 3" on the ground. When I passed LGA, it changed to rain and in Bayside (NE Queens), it never changed over until around 11:00a.m. Only a 7-8 miles away with a 4-5 hour changeover difference. In fact, in Astoria, it never rained 1 drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I think we'll have at least 5-10 events just like 12/19/09 where Long Island and coastal NJ get slammed but northwest of I-95 has nothing but cirrus and some flurries. Just a hunch. And hey, that was a Nino winter!! Love you, lol in a manly way . BTW my thoughts are the same . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Yup. It was a very rare storm where Western Queens received more then NE Queens. I left my house in Astoria (NW Queens at 8:00a.m.) and it had already been snowing for 2 hours with 3" on the ground. When I passed LGA, it changed to rain and in Bayside (NE Queens), it never changed over until around 11:00a.m. Only a 7-8 miles away with a 4-5 hour changeover difference. In fact, in Astoria, it never rained 1 drop. It rained plenty in Long Beach-we had maybe 1.50" of rain before we had one flake. I remember on the LIRR that day that the ground became white early that afternoon just east of Jamaica station. Snow mixed in at home around 4pm, but soon after we had a break and snow did not start in earnest until that night. The heaviest was from 4am-6am; we had probably 2-3" per hour then. It was a very windy storm too, we had gusts easily over 50 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 It rained plenty in Long Beach-we had maybe 1.50" of rain before we had one flake. I remember on the LIRR that day that the ground became white early that afternoon just east of Jamaica station. Snow mixed in at home around 4pm, but soon after we had a break and snow did not start in earnest until that night. The heaviest was from 4am-6am; we had probably 2-3" per hour then. It was a very windy storm too, we had gusts easily over 50 mph. Yeah once the heavy snow took over that night (and I remember all the storm cancel calls) it snowed heavy everywhere and piled up quickly. It was the first part of the storm where elevation helped and other areas went back and forth from rain to wet snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Couldn't agree more. Give me 1995-96, 2002-03, 2010-11 or give me death. You can keep 2009-2010, that was a terrible winter north of Rt. 80. Epic from DC to Philly. There was a sharp gradient even in Monmouth with 2009-10. I had 72" while someone 8 miles north in northern Holmdel had 58-59". Surprised you only recorded 13" with the Feb 25-26 2010 storm, I ended up with the same here. We got lucky in CNJ in that we were on the northern edge of the 09-10 winter and toward the southern edge of the big totals of 10-11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSantanaNYC Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I just don't want to deal with any storm with a sharp cutoff 25 miles south of the city. Too painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 DJF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 DJF Not only are we like only one of three cool spots on the entire planet but we're also the one farthest below normal, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Not only are we like only one of three cool spots on the entire planet but we're also the one farthest below normal, haha. As if we drew it up . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Not only are we like only one of three cool spots on the entire planet but we're also the one farthest below normal, haha. Well not too long ago we were basically the warmest spot on the entire globe so this kind of makes sense. It also kind of fits the global warming model that we and Europe are colder than normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 DJF Looks like the -EPO keeps on going just like last winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 If we can get that -EPO, weak el nino and a solid west based -NAO weenies will be coming out of the wood work in 95/96 numbers. Not saying it will be like that but its a fairly solid case should those three choose to work in tandem winter of 14/15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 It's precip forecast looks like shades of 09-10. Of course this doesn't mean much right now. But this look is one that would probably make the mid atlantic and possibly coastal northeast happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Central Park had nearly 2 feet and other spots around the city had upwards of 20", so it wasn't all elevation dependent. I was in Manhattan that day and it was a raging blizzard. The R/S line literally split Queens in half for much of the storm and it didn't snow very much where I live until that night. But overnight it went to town as the low pivoted NW into New England and we ended up with nearly a foot of paste here. It was almost NYC's version of the April Fools storm. Must have been a deform band that setup and nailed that area. I can only speak for what happened out here. 13" of cement IMBY, over 30" of fluff in West Milford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 It's precip forecast looks like shades of 09-10. Of course this doesn't mean much right now. But this look is one that would probably make the mid atlantic and possibly coastal northeast happy. Not really a great sign seeing the deep south so dry if you want strong Miller A's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 If we can get that -EPO, weak el nino and a solid west based -NAO weenies will be coming out of the wood work in 95/96 numbers. Not saying it will be like that but its a fairly solid case should those three choose to work in tandem winter of 14/15 Why must you always go to the extreme ? Ha . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseBlizzard2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 FWIW, CFSv2 is very warm as PB GFI posted, what's alarming is its complete flip in the pacific which should be noted and watched. Actually, the CFS does this a lot before a cold and snowy winter. It didn't do it for 2011. So if the CFS is showing a warm winter, it will gradually reverse in the next several months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Why must you always go to the extreme ? Ha . GO BIG OR GO HOME! But seriously paul am i that far off saying this upcoming winter would rock if all three of those teleconnectors worked in unison? 95/96 i threw in there because many weenies when they see a weak el nino the pants tents start popping up and when a -NAO is forecasted weenies just burst with excitement this is a general statement not a forecast mind you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 GO BIG OR GO HOME! But seriously paul am i that far off saying this upcoming winter would rock if all three of those teleconnectors worked in unison? 95/96 i threw in there because many weenies when they see a weak el nino the pants tents start popping up and when a -NAO is forecasted weenies just burst with excitement this is a general statement not a forecast mind you This is why we get along so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. August Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Actually, the CFS does this a lot before a cold and snowy winter. It didn't do it for 2011. So if the CFS is showing a warm winter, it will gradually reverse in the next several months. Joe Bastardi said that he expects the CFS to correct itself as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailMan06 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Joe Bastardi said that he expects the CFS to correct itself as well.IMO he lost any credibility he had with climate and long term forecasting after becoming obsessed with expecting an impending global cooling period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 the winter doesn't have to be like 1995-96 to be a great winter...To me any winter with near or over 40" of snowfall in KNYC is a great winter...If I was going to orchestrate a winter without being to greedy it would be a winter similar to 1963-64...December was cold with snow at the right time...7" Christmas eve...January had a blizzard with over a foot of snow...After a good thaw February had frequent snowfalls with one significant accumulation...March had 5" on the 22nd...1995-96 was 1963-64 on steroids... winters with 10" or less for the season are the worst to live thru...They are... 1972-73 1988-89 1996-97 1997-98 2001-02 2011-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 GO BIG OR GO HOME! But seriously paul am i that far off saying this upcoming winter would rock if all three of those teleconnectors worked in unison? 95/96 i threw in there because many weenies when they see a weak el nino the pants tents start popping up and when a -NAO is forecasted weenies just burst with excitement this is a general statement not a forecast mind you Even with all the three or four letter acronyms in the book being favorable you still need some luck to get 95-96 numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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