amarshall Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Whoa..that's some damage. http://instagram.com/p/q_0jPQpDqF/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornadomachine Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Revere video http://instagram.com/p/q_3bUAKYMF/ Trash cans spinning around like drunken ballerinas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornadomachine Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Who is on at BOX today? I don't understand how that could happenThat was a one scan tornado, IE worst case scenario. That wasn't impressive until it dropped a tor, IMHO. I know the WCM, he's told me repeatedly this kind of stuff is what keeps him awake at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Tor in revere http://instagram.com/p/q_3bUAKYMF/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 That was a one scan tornado, IE worst case scenario. That wasn't impressive until it dropped a tor, IMHO. I know the WCM, he's told me repeatedly this kind of stuff is what keeps him awake at night.Well how do hundreds of amateurs and weenies like us see it though? The mets on here were saying TOR. To me if it's there on dual pol with debris you issue warning.. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina311 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 It went right over me. My nerves are a bit rattled right now. I'm at work now. I had no power at home and it was dark as night. I didn't see a funnel or anything. Too much rain and too dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Yeah, if southern New Hampshire can destabilize as the HRRR indicates, I would really watch out near the frontal boundary if a few discretes can fire. Nicely backed winds, enhanced low-level shear, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Well how do hundreds of amateurs and weenies like us see it though? The mets on here were saying TOR. To me if it's there on dual pol with debris you issue warning.. Right? Wouldn't have mattered. Thing probably lifted by the 9:34 volume scan. Wouldn't have had any lead time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Yeah I don't think there was any lead time, although sounds like some other stuff went on downstream of Revere near Needham. Still..probably need to issue a warning regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Regardless of severe wx, this area had 3" of rain in 45 minutes. Have to be on lookout for more flooding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornadomachine Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Well how do hundreds of amateurs and weenies like us see it though? The mets on here were saying TOR. To me if it's there on dual pol with debris you issue warning.. Right?We saw it the same time they did, I'd gander. They also have to draw out the warning and all that, besides all their other duties. Average issuance time is 30 seconds for a highly trained officer, so about 2 minutes from scan to warning is, IMHO, not terrible. As has been said, that was really too quick to do anything about it. Worst case scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Yeah I don't think there was any lead time, although sounds like some other stuff went on downstream of Revere near Needham. Still..probably need to issue a warning regardless. What bothers me is that the tornado debris sig was never mentioned in warnings or NWS Chat. There's no excuse for that. Radar confirmed a tornado touched down in Revere and we knew that by 9:35 a.m. Why we have to listen to hours of "who knows what it was... microburst??? tornado???" is just ridiculous. Also... what's the point of dual pol if you're not going to use it to inform the public. The initial warning (which should have gone out sooner but wouldn't have had any lead time anyway) should have referenced a confirmed touchdown in Revere. Had I been working in Boston I would have gone on air with a confirmed tornado in Revere right away regardless of what NWS did or didn't have out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TalcottWx Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Yeah I don't think there was any lead time, although sounds like some other stuff went on downstream of Revere near Needham. Still..probably need to issue a warning regardless.There was nothing to warrant a tor warning until that frame. It was mostly broad until then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornadomachine Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 50/50 CU and sun in NW Middlesex. Foreboding fills the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CoastalWx Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 There was nothing to warrant a tor warning until that frame. It was mostly broad until then. That was a reference to what people were saying as far as reports go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Well how do hundreds of amateurs and weenies like us see it though? The mets on here were saying TOR. To me if it's there on dual pol with debris you issue warning.. Right? I will say, 10 minutes is too long of a delay. A 0 lead time warning is better than a -10 minute lead time. This is the perfect set up though for these one or two volume scan tornadoes. Tough warning environment. It happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 That was a reference to what people were saying as far as reports go.was agreeing with you. 93 n to 495 after work? Not sure where I want to set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 What bothers me is that the tornado debris sig was never mentioned in warnings or NWS Chat. There's no excuse for that. Radar confirmed a tornado touched down in Revere and we knew that by 9:35 a.m. Why we have to listen to hours of "who knows what it was... microburst??? tornado???" is just ridiculous. Also... what's the point of dual pol if you're not going to use it to inform the public. The initial warning (which should have gone out sooner but wouldn't have had any lead time anyway) should have referenced a confirmed touchdown in Revere. Had I been working in Boston I would have gone on air with a confirmed tornado in Revere right away regardless of what NWS did or didn't have out. Yeah that was pretty evident on CC. I'm not sure the morning on air mets would have had that awareness to detect anything like that..no offense to them. I mean I was looking at radarscope and was like "whoa" when I posted about that couplet. That was really evident...I wished I looked at CC at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Revere video http://instagram.com/p/q_3bUAKYMF/ Pretty incredible. It went right over me. My nerves are a bit rattled right now. I'm at work now. I had no power at home and it was dark as night. I didn't see a funnel or anything. Too much rain and too dark. You have a story to tell--glad you're safe. All-state automotive division signs in relief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Seeing some damage pics in Needham too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkO Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Wow, just starting to see the photos from multiple cousins who live in the Broadway area of Revere who got hit. Homes damaged. It's nuts! I've got a lot of O'Hara cousins who work for the Revere Police, and Fire departments including Amy who was on the tv show survivor back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlantStickers Anonymous Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Sun is shining bright now, time to heat things up and get energy in the air for round two. The images from revere are incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 What bothers me is that the tornado debris sig was never mentioned in warnings or NWS Chat. There's no excuse for that. Radar confirmed a tornado touched down in Revere and we knew that by 9:35 a.m. Why we have to listen to hours of "who knows what it was... microburst??? tornado???" is just ridiculous. Also... what's the point of dual pol if you're not going to use it to inform the public. The initial warning (which should have gone out sooner but wouldn't have had any lead time anyway) should have referenced a confirmed touchdown in Revere. Had I been working in Boston I would have gone on air with a confirmed tornado in Revere right away regardless of what NWS did or didn't have out. i'd agree on this. Tough situation but the debris cloud tells all and in this case they're very lucky it DIDN'T last longer than it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Damage In Tolland Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Those pics seem to suggest ef1 or low end ef2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 If this had happened out here in the sticks, no one would have cared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Roof ripped off new ice arena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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