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I love cold and snow, but is it really that hard to find why some like heat and humidity? I mean, a lot of folks who don't participate in winter sports really have no use for being cold. I can totally understand that.

But I think what Forky was getting at is the correlation between people who hate hot weather and also do not accept global warming. The ski industry is coming around to it now, but people who love cold and snow definitely seem to have a harder time with global warming than folks who want to sit on the beach in heat/humidity all year round, lol.

But this will get way off topic quickly haha.

I can understand that whole global warming debate and any cold and snow lover who doesn't believe it is a fool really. I guess the ironic thing is that people who love hot and humid are actually the majority in the general public over all the cold and snow lovers. You always hear complaining after cold and snow from many people outside of industries that thrive on it (ski resorts, plowing). You don't hear as much complaining because of hot and humid weather unless it's excessive which is still fairly rare in and of itself. 

 

The only exception to those who complain about the cold and snow is usually around the holidays where many actually hope for snow as long as it's not too much. 

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Give me the cooler days over nights any day.

 

75.5/61

 

Agreed. Radiational nights are useless. Colder daytime highs in the fall and winter FTW= snowpack retention

 

That's why I'm glad that I live at 650' which is a happy medium.  I also have a hill to west which blocks some afternoon heating and gives me excellent snow retention (last in the neighborhood).  I get a little of both worlds without the extreme daytime heat of summer afternoons and only a degree or two "warmer" on a winter day a 1,000' hill top.

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Parts of NNE are peak foliage by late September and start changing in early September. Around here (NE CT), we are usually peak around Columbus Day and are mostly bare by the first week of November, except for some oaks that hang on to their leaves all winter it seems.

I was up at a place called russell pond in new hampshire. Its pretty much up on a mountain. Last week of august into the first few days of september.

There were faint signs of trees turning already.it was damn chilly a few nights too. It happens quick up there

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That's why I'm glad that I live at 650' which is a happy medium. I also have a hill to west which blocks some afternoon heating and gives me excellent snow retention (last in the neighborhood). I get a little of both worlds without the extreme daytime heat of summer afternoons and only a degree or two "warmer" on a winter day a 1,000' hill top.

Plus living on hilltop I don't have to worry about those cool summer nights. Like this morning was barely under 60 while lower down was awful low- mid 50's.
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Plus living on hilltop I don't have to worry about those cool summer nights. Like this morning was barely under 60 while lower down was awful low- mid 50's.

This will be bumped in the winter when your snowpack is crying for its mama in the 40s while the valleys are near freezing.

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I think we're in the minority around here. Most on the board seem to cheer on the steady march to shorter and shorted days as we move to August. I get that it's symbolic of the approach to winter...but I too find the gradual shortening of days to be depressing. If we could somehow have a winter with 14-16 hours of sunlight...I'd be the first to sign up!

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If we could somehow have summer with snow...sign me up.
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This will be bumped in the winter when your snowpack is crying for its mama in the 40s while the valleys are near freezing.

 

Reminds me of 2011 when the low level inversion melted all the snow above 1,000ft (note bare fields in foreground and left side of photo), while the river valley elevations held onto solid snowpack, with the deepest snow at 700-800ft where all the fields in the photo are located at.  Nothing like watching snowpack appear and deepen as you travel lower in elevation.

 

 

 

Also last January had a situation where the lower elevations in NH and ME had solid snowpack while the mountains were bare to 3,000ft thanks to CAD.

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87F max...torch city. Kinda interesting to see YUL and BTV in that 85-87 range while in between it's low 80s. The only thing worse than a UHI is a UTI.

 

It was sneaky warm up here today...it hit 71F at MMNV1/Mansfield station at 4,000ft and felt plenty warm up there all day while I was there.  So you take normal lapse rates from that elevation and it puts BTV in the upper 80s at 300ft for a high.  MPV at 1,200ft was 82-83F, which is a pretty warm day for them up on the hill, and MVL with 83-84F.  Even our Stowe base area station at 1,600ft hit 83F, which is also a warm day for that station.

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Nothing worse in the warm wx months than to have to worry about bringing a long sleeved tee or North Face jacket with you at night. Absolutely ruins the summer vibe and feel

100% agree! that's exactly what I'm talking about. If I go out in July I want to be able to eat outside in flip flops and shorts and not have to worry about a shall, everyone has to agree that is what summer is all about. I'm sure MPM doesn't want to have to wears a Hoodie after he gets out of his pool in July.....

Same thing in winter, I want snow but I also want the arctic hounds of hell to keep the snow around. Seasons as seasons.

Yes we understand these things are not always possible where we live, but it won't prevent us from hoping and praying for it.

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You live in a bad spot for that where your summer avg daily min temp is in the low to mid 50s...moving to the mid-atlantic would help a lot.

Or maybe even the CT river valley in a spot that doesn't radiate too much would help quite a bit.

True true....but I'd rather take the snow up here in the winter than the dearth of snow in Death Valley compared to the benefits of higher summer temps, but I think most would

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100% agree! that's exactly what I'm talking about. If I go out in July I want to be able to eat outside in flip flops and shorts and not have to worry about a shall, everyone has to agree that is what summer is all about. I'm sure MPM doesn't want to have to wears a Hoodie after he gets out of his pool in July.....

Same thing in winter, I want snow but I also want the arctic hounds of hell to keep the snow around. Seasons as seasons.

Yes we understand these things are not always possible where we live, but it won't prevent us from hoping and praying for it.

You and I get it..Others on here..well ..not so much

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100% agree! that's exactly what I'm talking about. If I go out in July I want to be able to eat outside in flip flops and shorts and not have to worry about a shall, everyone has to agree that is what summer is all about. I'm sure MPM doesn't want to have to wears a Hoodie after he gets out of his pool in July.....

Same thing in winter, I want snow but I also want the arctic hounds of hell to keep the snow around. Seasons as seasons.

Yes we understand these things are not always possible where we live, but it won't prevent us from hoping and praying for it.

What about fall and spring? How would you like to hope and pray those perform?

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