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You are delusional. I put my central A/C on when it gets even slightly humid at night. I hate being warm when I'm sleeping. The fact that my A/C has been off more than on in July is very rare for me in SE NY. Up at my house in Lake George it's a different story.

oh look, a climate change denier who hates hot wx... seems to be a theme
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With my own personal data I have a plateau as well from July 15th through July 30th with a daily mean of 69.6°F but I'm able to show more decimal places and I know that I reach a peak of 69.72 on July 23rd.

 

Someone posted a table a few years ago showing climate peak dates and it's interesting how some places have a peak earlier in July and others not until early August.  You could even see places that were regionally close had dates that were weeks apart.  Then again, we're talking about "smoothing" out a non-linear curve of averages from one day to the next.

 

I run my "live" day-to-day data thru a 15-day "regression", such that my current avg for yesterday (7/20) is the composite avg for 7/13 thru 7/20 (17 yr) and 7/21 thru 7/27 (16 yr), and available to as many decimals as I think useful, given that my thermometer can be read only to the full degree F.   I've done the same for Farmington's records to get the "plateau" noted earlier.  Looking at the raw 30-yr day-by-day avgs for 81-10 showed some odd hops, as in this August week:

 

1981-2010 avgs

Date dbd avg   15-day avg

8/3.....68.32.......66.91

8/4.....68.42.......66.82

8/5.....68.58.......66.77

8/6.....65.60.......66.57

8/7.....65.23.......66.47

8/8.....65.97.......66.45

8/9.....67.08.......66.42

That huge change between 5th and 6th required a rigorous look at the numbers and math, but it checked out.  I also looked at winter numbers and, not surprising, found even bigger jumps.  In January, daily means are 15.47 on the 19th, 10.50 on 22nd, 17.12 on 25th.  The 15-day "regressed" avg is 13.77/13.36/14.12.

Most people that like it roasting hot all summer or bitter cold all winter seem to not have to pay for their utilities......

 

Might be some truth in this.  I'd probably be less eager for the big chill were I not heating mainly with wood - currently $30/cord wood (plus the work-up labor, which is productive exercise) from our woodlot.  We avoid A/C as much as is feasible, and this year just running fans has sufficed, though barely for July 1-3.

 

As for bringing/wearing sweats at night, that's my wife's preference in winter (thermostat set at 60), plus 2 blankets and a quilt.  My internal thermostat is set a bit differently, so I'm fine with light P-Js, a sheet and one blanket.  This time of year, it's sheets only for me, or open air on the warmest nights (same garments in any case.)

 

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Ya gotta have the elastic bands around the ankles too, with long tube socks bunched up down there.

 

They have the string ties around the waist but straight legged at the bottom

 

With holes cut out around the crotch?

 

lol, I would have been in the fitting room with the girls if that was the case

 

lol yeah those are the ones I meant. I mean people stopped wearing those in the early- mid 90's. I hope he means like a pair of Adidas wind pants

 

No i don't mean a pair of zip up legged wind pants

 

Nothing like a pair of comfy sweat pants in the winter lounging around at home. I don't wear them out though.

 

Yup, Apparently some have been out of college to long to realize they still make sweats

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Nothing worse in the warm wx months than to have to worry about bringing a long sleeved tee or North Face jacket with you at night. Absolutely ruins the summer vibe and feel

 

It depends on your expectation.

 

You live in a bad spot for that where your summer avg daily min temp is in the low to mid 50s...moving to the mid-atlantic would help a lot.

 

Or maybe even the CT river valley in a spot that doesn't radiate too much would help quite a bit.

 

Hilltop locations would have higher mins than surrounding areas. You could probably gain 5 or 10 degrees on the low but sacrifice on the high.  I've had lows around 50 and certain 1,000' hilltops are closer to 60.

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I'm always curious as to why people like you love hot and humid weather so much.

I love cold and snow, but is it really that hard to find why some like heat and humidity? I mean, a lot of folks who don't participate in winter sports really have no use for being cold. I can totally understand that.

But I think what Forky was getting at is the correlation between people who hate hot weather and also do not accept global warming. The ski industry is coming around to it now, but people who love cold and snow definitely seem to have a harder time with global warming than folks who want to sit on the beach in heat/humidity all year round, lol.

But this will get way off topic quickly haha.

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Fall foliage will typically peak here around October 10th, but this can vary between October 1st and October 20th. Last year was a bit early as September featured a lot of good rad cooling nights in the 30s and 40s, but years like 2007 where it stays warm and humid through September into early October, it will be later.

 

2K usually peaks about 7 to 10 days earlier than we do, while the oak, hickory dominated forests of the lower Pioneer Valley may not peak until just before Halloween. Usually we're completely bare by Halloween, save for a few stragglers.

 

I eagerly anticipate fall as I think it's the prettiest season around here. Plus, I love the anticipation of winter, which is sometimes better than the winter itself, particularly if it's full of disappointments.

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I meant to say past peak by the first week of October. It's interesting how coastal New England tends to hang on longer because of the marine influince. I was up in Salem the week before Halloween last year and very few trees were already bare.

 

 

 

When I lived in Fort Kent, peak would usually be during the last week of September, but that's the north end of NNE. In my current foothills location, color begins about the equinox (a bit earlier on ash) and peaks somewhere in the Oct 1-10 timeframe, varying from one season to the next. I enjoy th leaf-off look of the woods. Not only is it a precursor to snow, but my views thru the trees are much longer, and that's useful in my work.

 

When I went to school in the NEK, I remember peaks in late September as well, or at least it seemed that way.

 

In other news, at least 86F today, not sure what happened between hourlies.

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It depends on your expectation.

 

 

Hilltop locations would have higher mins than surrounding areas. You could probably gain 5 or 10 degrees on the low but sacrifice on the high.  I've had lows around 50 and certain 1,000' hilltops are closer to 60.

 

Give me the cooler days over nights any day.

 

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