dryslot Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 lol, With a thread title July discussion i guess anything can be discussed weather wise because its July............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 UKMET's gotta a seriously hot look for a D5 and 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 exactly! I'm a weird sadist about heat, tho. Only cuz I find the synoptics that lead up to heat wave as quite trackable and fascinating. I guess I could do without the physical impact, but still think it's interesting? doesn't that make any sense? The whole thing with the Sonoran Heat Release has actual simple markers to look for in the atmosphere. They go like ... 1) antecedent flat or modestly positive PNAP flow, where plateau air is trapped in the SW and around the Sonoran air bake region of the continent. 2) troughing ...often times one known as an "outside slider" rolls down the California Coast. 3) probably the most important factor; the tele that correlates central/eastern Canada needs to go positive as this slider is-a rollin'. That lifts the mean latitude of the westerlies and either serves to retrograde WAR, or establish a new STR altogether. 1 --> 2 --> 3 --> big ejection of EML/continental cT air with those dragon fart 850s quite tappable in a well mixe plumes pull out into the Plain and conveyor on through the Lakes/ S Canada, and eventually ...us. Thing is, since that whole index relay and subsequent heat-related consequences can be so extreme, I am not sure why heat domes are not up there with the other big recognizable things. Like you say, if it's cold, grab a coat. But if you're down to nut sack on sofa for clothes and you're still sweating ...that's way more than a mere inconvenience. You could get air conditioning. Its no different than heat. And to me, its rarely hot enough outside to not do anything. I'd rather run or hike or do anything outdoors in 90 over 20 any day. Would I choose 75-85F over 90F? Of course (unless I'm at the beach, then let it roast), but just saying summer heat's better than winter cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I'm rooting Kevin style heat for a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I'm rooting Kevin style heat for a few days.Euro says it's coming fast and hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 You could get air conditioning. Its no different than heat. And to me, its rarely hot enough outside to not do anything. I'd rather run or hike or do anything outdoors in 90 over 20 any day. Would I choose 75-85F over 90F? Of course (unless I'm at the beach, then let it roast), but just saying summer heat's better than winter cold. I understand ... but it's more than just that, though. We've been fortunate here in NE over recent years. Big heat stresses the grid. Fills ERs -- and there are many many many people that find AC a luxury they cannot afford. It kills cattle. And if it happens often enough, shifts biota in a detrimental ways. Merely saying AC, whether one intends to or not, really ignores the reality. I bet you would think differently if you experienced a real heat wave. Like, ...3 or so summers ago we had a hot day in August. Temps soared to the century mark, and many locations challenged all time high temperature records being ...105 or more... That was ONE day. Image 10 days of that with lows barely 80. Now imagine you are a elderly person on meager social security. Imagine you are in an area where over stressed grid causes a transformer park failure, and black out ensue. Bye-bye AC even if you have it. It's just factual that it is easier to put clothes on than to escape the heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I understand ... but it's more than just that, though. We've been fortunate here in NE over recent years. Big heat stresses the grid. Fills ERs -- and there are many many many people that find AC a luxury they cannot afford. It kills cattle. And if it happens often enough, shifts biota in a detrimental ways. Merely saying AC, whether one intends to or not, really ignores the reality. I bet you would think differently if you experienced a real heat wave. Like, ...3 or so summers ago we had a hot day in August. Temps soared to the century mark, and many locations challenged all time high temperature records being ...105 or more... That was ONE day. Image 10 days of that with lows barely 80. Now imagine you are a elderly person on meager social security. Imagine you are in an area where over stressed grid causes a transformer park failure, and black out ensue. Bye-bye AC even if you have it. It's just factual that it is easier to put clothes on than to escape the heat. Yeah and multiple days of subzero temperatures does the same. Put it in places that aren't equipped for it and its worse. Pipes freeze, people die (especially the homeless), electricity fails, crops die, hypothermia, frostbite, etc... I'm not originally from New England so I know real heat lol, not southern Plains heat but Mid Atlantic/Southeast Heat/Humidity. Also I'm not saying heat waves are GREAT! Lol I'm merely saying I would prefer that extreme over the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NECT Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I understand ... but it's more than just that, though. We've been fortunate here in NE over recent years. Big heat stresses the grid. Fills ERs -- and there are many many many people that find AC a luxury they cannot afford. It kills cattle. And if it happens often enough, shifts biota in a detrimental ways. Merely saying AC, whether one intends to or not, really ignores the reality. I bet you would think differently if you experienced a real heat wave. Like, ...3 or so summers ago we had a hot day in August. Temps soared to the century mark, and many locations challenged all time high temperature records being ...105 or more... That was ONE day. Image 10 days of that with lows barely 80. Now imagine you are a elderly person on meager social security. Imagine you are in an area where over stressed grid causes a transformer park failure, and black out ensue. Bye-bye AC even if you have it. It's just factual that it is easier to put clothes on than to escape the heat. You ever try putting a coat on a bull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Folks, cold kills more than heat globally - true. It doesn't withstand the point that heat needs to be better recognized. Just sayin' Personally, I'm a guy for the season I am in. When it is summer, I'm interested in summer Meteorology and drama. In the winter, the same. BUT, I take it a step further. A warm spell in winter is not uninteresting to me, because like any time of the year it's just another record that could be broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 You ever try putting a coat on a bull? Trick question? Bulls already wear a coat... buah hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Folks, cold kills more than heat globally - true. It doesn't withstand the point that heat needs to be better recognized. Just sayin' Personally, I'm a guy for the season I am in. When it is summer, I'm interested in summer Meteorology and drama. In the winter, the same. BUT, I take it a step further. A warm spell in winter is not uninteresting to me, because like any time of the year it's just another record that could be broken. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Who was it that mentioned MCS awhile ago? holy crap if that NAVGEM mid/early extended transpires. That's Derecho city That would be me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Euro says it's coming fast and hard Fast and hard, just like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I've spent many a summer in Texas in 100-110F heat...my car had no AC for a while too. Played golf in the max heating of the day. It was absolutely brutal at times. Lots of gatorade. But I'd much rather not to be able to afford AC in the summer than heat in the winter. AC is actually pretty new relatively speaking...it's a luxury. Heat is a neccesity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I've spent many a summer in Texas in 100-110F heat...my car had no AC for a while too. Played golf in the max heating of the day. It was absolutely brutal at times. Lots of gatorade. But I'd much rather not to be able to afford AC in the summer than heat in the winter. AC is actually pretty new relatively speaking...it's a luxury. Heat is a neccesity. Oh yes for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 personally, as someone who is always hot. I don't think I could live without AC. At least without heat,there are ways to stay warm. Now if lack of heat included the lack of hot water..that would be a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Can't it just be January all year round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Freezes up the ponds, keeps the powder ultra light, and is a key ingredient historically in big storms. Also feels great on the lungs. Yes sir exactly what i was thinking, as long as the wind is low even 10 below is not uncomfortable if you are working or playing and dressed right. 40 degrees in snow leads to melting, puddles, sticky snow, good for spring not winter. Ideally 20-25 degrees in winter 75 to 85 in summer with low dews both times in between storms, hey that sounds like last winter and this summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Can't it just be January all year round? Dunno if I could do that. Seasonal changes are good for cleansing my soul....which needs to be done a few times a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I posted in the NNE thread, but lots of smoke at high levels. Canada seems really smoky, maybe from the Washington State fires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Actually appears a goodly bit of it is actually originating from the fires in Washington State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Yeah and multiple days of subzero temperatures does the same. Put it in places that aren't equipped for it and its worse. Pipes freeze, people die (especially the homeless), electricity fails, crops die, hypothermia, frostbite, etc... I'm not originally from New England so I know real heat lol, not southern Plains heat but Mid Atlantic/Southeast Heat/Humidity. Also I'm not saying heat waves are GREAT! Lol I'm merely saying I would prefer that extreme over the other. We're all different in our preferences (obviously.) However, I can recall a number of brownouts and worse due to heat, and none due to cold. (Ice storms are another story.) Not many in New England heat their with electricity, at least compared to the number using AC. Most of my domestic heat comes from trees on my woodlot, but any AC comes on the bill from CMP, which adds to my bias. People who are interested in weather are apt to be fans of extremes. I don't like HHH (especially with a solid cap to block convection), would prefer it to stay away, but I'll still brag about it after the fact. Same with the coldest of the cold (zero IMBY is just another winter day, unless that was the high for the day), especially if it's windy - different, of course, if it's also snowy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Meh,... basically with heat and cold it's like everything in this business, people have their druthers. Some like it hot, some like it cold. It only becomes a "flame" throwing thing when people stand on the other-side's toes and troll them over it. But that's another story. When the temperature exceeds 90F, mortality spikes ~ 10 to 15%, relative to regions more or less accustomed to the heat. Will mentioned Texas ...well, 104F there is not nearly as uncommon as Boston Ma -- just wondering if acclimation zones might skew the numbers. I read a study on the difference between the two and it was quite fascinating really... Heat and cold events kill differently. For heat, the morality rates actually returns to lower than normal mortality once the heat wave ends. It's like heat "cleans house" of the weak and/or sick." However, when the cold wave ends, the mortality rates only return to normal. That makes it "seem" old is the bigger enemy, because it has less trade off that returns benefit to everyone. For "healthy" people, heat is less a threat than cold. But that's speaking numbers and stats and shiz. Druthers are a whole different thing. Last summer I did not have AC in this house. I was unemployed then, and suffered many a 94/71 type days where my living room soared to 88F by 7pm. I gutted it out, fans, spray bottles. I'd spray some spritzers of water on my face and forearms, and with the fan on high ...that actually helped quite a bit. Still, I did not realize how bad it was until this summer, gainfully employed, I said f' it! I'm buying an AC. Of course it has not been as hot, no. Still, I am finding my self less tolerant of the heat now that I have the cool air option - which I find interesting. I think it is probably like that for everyone. Can you imagine a world without remote controls? Oh man -- I remember turning the dial, click click click, one after the other. "Hey, don't turn it too fast or you'll break the nob. And give those bunny ears a nudge." Funny ... those graduating college this year, have never known a world without the Internet. I guess the point is, humans are adaptable. If it is hot, eventually it feels less hot. But I think if it is cold, there's only so much one's mitochondria can do to keep up by generating compensatory heat. There are limits to both, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Rare Mid July territory BOSTON MOSUNNY 74 56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 An E wind at 12kts will do that there. 84 in the interior. Dry as bone though - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 An E wind at 12kts will do that there. 84 in the interior. Dry as bone though - CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKS BOSTON MOSUNNY 74 56 53 E10 30.17S BEVERLY SUNNY 73 54 51 S9 30.18R LAWRENCE SUNNY 79 54 41 W7 30.19R BEDFORD MOSUNNY 79 54 41 W5 30.16S BLUE HILL N/A 77 54 44 W9 30.18S NORWOOD MOSUNNY 81 55 40 NW6 30.17S MARSHFIELD SUNNY 75 57 53 SE8 30.19S PLYMOUTH MOSUNNY 76 54 46 E7 30.19R TAUNTON MOSUNNY 78 57 48 E8 30.16S NEW BEDFORD MOSUNNY 77 57 50 S8 30.17R $$ MAZALL-182200- CAPE COD AND THE ISLANDS CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKS FALMOUTH PTSUNNY 73 59 60 SE10 30.19R HYANNIS SUNNY 76 56 49 SE6 30.18R CHATHAM MOSUNNY 73 53 49 E7 30.20R PROVINCETOWN SUNNY 77 55 47 SW3 30.19R NANTUCKET MOSUNNY 73 55 53 E8 30.19S MARTHAS VNYRD SUNNY 75 55 49 SE6 30.18S $$ MAZALL-182200- CENTRAL AND WESTERN MASSACHUSETTS CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKS WORCESTER SUNNY 76 47 35 W6 30.21S FITCHBURG SUNNY 81 51 35 N5 30.19S ORANGE N/A N/A N/A N/A MISG 30.19R SPRINGFIELD MOSUNNY 80 51 37 VRB2 30.18S WESTFIELD SUNNY 81 49 32 NW7 30.18S NORTH ADAMS SUNNY 76 48 37 VRB3 30.21S PITTSFIELD SUNNY 74 50 42 NW8 30.22R $$ RIZALL-182200- RHODE ISLAND CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKS PROVIDENCE PTSUNNY 78 59 51 S9 30.18R NEWPORT MOSUNNY 73 56 54 SW9 30.18S BLOCK ISLAND PTSUNNY 75 57 53 S7 30.19S SMITHFIELD SUNNY 79 54 41 CALM 30.20S WESTERLY MOSUNNY 78 57 48 VRB6 30.19S $$ CTZALL-182200- CONNECTICUT CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKS BRADLEY INTL MOSUNNY 82 49 31 NW5 30.17S HARTFORD CLOUDY 78 54 43 CALM 30.17S BRIDGEPORT MOSUNNY 79 54 41 VRB6 30.19S DANBURY MOSUNNY 77 46 33 NW6 30.22S GROTON PTSUNNY 73 62 68 SW7 30.17F NEW HAVEN PTSUNNY 77 56 48 SW8 30.19S CHESTER FAIR 77 52 41 N3 30.20S MERIDEN PTSUNNY 81 50 33 CALM 30.18S WILLIMANTIC MOSUNNY 81 47 30 N7 30.19S OXFORD MOSUNNY 75 54 46 N5 30.23S $$ MEZ002-015-021-024-NHZ003-005-008-011-012-014-VTZ005-008-182200- NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKS PORTLAND ME MOSUNNY 73 54 51 S12 30.16S BANGOR ME MOSUNNY 80 52 37 W7 30.12R CONCORD NH MOSUNNY 80 51 36 NW6 30.17S MANCHESTER NH MOSUNNY 80 48 32 W7 30.16R NASHUA NH MOSUNNY 80 49 33 N3 30.18S PORTSMOUTH NH MOSUNNY 76 57 51 S10 30.16R JAFFREY NH MOSUNNY 76 48 37 VRB6 30.22R KEENE NH CLOUDY 79 48 34 SW3 30.19S BURLINGTON VT MOSUNNY 80 52 37 NE6 30.18R MT. WASHINGTON PTSUNNY 48 43 81 W17 N/A $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Dozens of low temps broken, ASOUT http://www.nws.noaa.gov/view/validProds.php?prod=RER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Those were not likelly the highs... I'm also talking specifically in Ayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 WSI Energy Weather @WSI_Energy 8m With Typhoon Matmo lurking o/ the West Pacific.. be prepared for over-the-weekend changes in the medium-range models! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Meaning another westward moving typhoon so adjust warmer as energy mets had to do for next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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