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Gotta wonder if the Typhoon in the far east moving west and not recurving is the reason why long range is now looking toasty as we end July and head into August.

 

We'll see what happens.  Long range has hinted at that for a while but it never has materialized except seasonal levels.  After mid-August "toasty" takes on a different meaning and that's only a month away now.

 

I hope you're spending extra time outdoors enjoying the high dp's.  Extra special this morning!  Hopefully we get some good cells later.

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Overcast and cool with temps in the 60s does it out there. Heck we do that every summer...lol.

 

 

A record is still a record...if its easy to get high temps in the 60s, then why would it be a record low max?

 

 

edit: already saw Brian basically said the same thing

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Was up in NH this weekend...and took this at the top of MWN....still some surviving snow into mid-July.

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Is that two patches or is one of them a pond?

Edit: I just looked at some other images, both of those might be bodies of water. The one on the right definitely is...that's the Lake of the Clouds.

Maine jayhawk would know for sure.

 

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Is that two patches or is one of them a pond?

 

 

I thought they were both ponds at first and only the smaller patch much further to the upper left was snow...but when we zoomed in it looked like all three of them were snow. I'm not sure which it is...except that the upper left patch was definitely snow.

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I thought they were both ponds at first and only the smaller patch much further to the upper left was snow...but when we zoomed in it looked like all three of them were snow. I'm not sure which it is...except that the upper left patch was definitely snow.

 

Yeah that upper left one is hard to tell, but there does seem to also be a pond in that area, too, in several photos, just to the right of that path.  Who knows... I'm just surprised because I know people who would ski that in July (even if its the size of a ping pong table) and I haven't heard of any patches of snow besides crumbling chunks in Tucks.  No one is more anal about patches of snow than die hard eastern skiers looking to make turns in as many months as possible.  There are forums that monitor this stuff, lol, like TimeForTuckermans.

 

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Yeah that upper left one is hard to tell, but there does seem to also be a pond in that area, too, in several photos, just to the right of that path.  Who knows... I'm just surprised because I know people who would ski that in July (even if its the size of a ping pong table) and I haven't heard of any patches of snow besides crumbling chunks in Tucks.  No one is more anal about patches of snow than die hard eastern skiers looking to make turns in as many months as possible.  There are forums that monitor this stuff, lol, like TimeForTuckermans.

 

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Yeah that pic shows it well....those two bottom are def lakes. The upper left one def appears to be a pond too now, though its much smaller in your pics than when we saw it. I wonder if it was surrounded by some snow or something. (these lakes are fed by snowmelt and ice melt afterall)

 

 

I did see some small snow patches still in tuckerman's from the bottom,but I didn't get a good pic of it. I wish you could see it from the top.

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Yeah that pic shows it well....those two bottom are def lakes. The upper left one def appears to be a pond too now, though its much smaller in your pics than when we saw it. I wonder if it was surrounded by some snow or something. (these lakes are fed by snowmelt and ice melt afterall)

I did see some small snow patches still in tuckerman's from the bottom,but I didn't get a good pic of it. I wish you could see it from the top.

Yeah I agree, that other pond looks a lot smaller than what your pic has.

Tuckermans is amazing for snow preservation with how deep it fills in there.

MWN on the whole though is quite the New England treasure...it's always a treat to go up there. Truly a different world.

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I wonder how much higher MWN would have to be in order to have year round snowcover/glaciers.

 

I bet around 9,000ft in New England could do it...I'm thinking of the Pacific NW elevations that have year-round snow, except those spots get like 600" of paste/snow per year too.  The Rockies in Montana I think have a couple spots with year-round snow up in that 8,000-10,000ft elevation, and that's a similar latitude.  I think you'd need to take like 10-15F off of MWN's summer temperatures to do it...which with normal lapse rates would require another 2-3kft of elevation.

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I bet around 9,000ft in New England could do it...I'm thinking of the Pacific NW elevations that have year-round snow, except those spots get like 600" of paste/snow per year too. The Rockies in Montana I think have a couple spots with year-round snow up in that 8,000-10,000ft elevation, and that's a similar latitude. I think you'd need to take like 10-15F off of MWN's summer temperatures to do it...which with normal lapse rates would require another 2-3kft of elevation.

Think of the shadowing that would cause in places like St. J and Littleton during nor'easters. They already get suckerholed because of the Whites now, throw another couple of thousand feet on the Whites and they'd be a virtual desert.
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Even Gerald will be impressed by this.

Eric Fisher (@ ericfisher) tweeted at 11:38 PM on Tue, Jul 15, 2014:

53. Wow. MT @capitalweather Marquette, Michigan high temp today? 53- on July 15! Coldest on record by 11 degs. More: http://t.co/yqbB83tKgc

(https://twitter.com/ ericfisher/status/ 489252740661784576)

Marquette is a huge snow place btw.

Chamber back in business this weekend.

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