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BTV has had 2 hours of +RN now...0.4" and 0.44" for a two hour total of 0.84" and that band is going no where. Gusting to 30mph out of the north there, must be very raw.

Froude = 0.1 , BTV jackpot. It rises to about 0.6 by morning, but still solidly blocked so CPV/Western Slopes will cash in, CPV now, Western Slopes later.

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Froude = 0.1 , BTV jackpot. It rises to about 0.6 by morning, but still solidly blocked so CPV/Western Slopes will cash in, CPV now, Western Slopes later.

Yeah, nothing but sheet drizzle on this side of the mountain. Northerly winds don't do anything for this side. Smallest rain drops you'll ever see, like they have trouble getting to the ground, almost like a mist.

I noticed with the earlier rain on easterly winds, the eastern side private weather stations were showing 0.6-1.0" while west side was more like 0.25-0.4"....now it's going the other way with CPV and west slopes catching up and passing the east slope totals.

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Yeah, nothing but sheet drizzle on this side of the mountain. Northerly winds don't do anything for this side. Smallest rain drops you'll ever see, like they have trouble getting to the ground, almost like a mist.

I noticed with the earlier rain on easterly winds, the eastern side private weather stations were showing 0.6-1.0" while west side was more like 0.25-0.4"....now it's going the other way with CPV and west slopes catching up and passing the east slope totals.

 

Yeah we're probably locked in with steady rain through ~06z, then the drier air starts working in.

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I like the "start of fall" philosophy but have to disagree a bit on August heat.  While it's true that recent years haven't featured NNE heatwaves in August (week before Labor Day 2010 might be exception), I wonder if your wife's lifeguard career included 2002.  The midmonth that year featured an 8-9 day run of 90s/near 90s throughout the region.  My threshold for "heat" on my lilac-tempered instrument is 85, and 8/11-18/2002 brought highs from 87 to 91 each day.  (My hottest, records for 1998 on, is a mere 93, also in 2002 on both 7/3 and 9/9.)

 

My wife’s experience with the swimming in August would all be from the 1990s; it was something she was warned about by the owner of the club from his years of experience, but she then witnessed it first hand with those numerous August days where they would just end up closing down the pool if nobody had chosen to swim by a certain time of day.

 

Some of my own related experiences came from the 1980s in the Champlain Valley when I was a kid – we had a swimming pool in the neighborhood, and being kids we’d of course find our way in the water more often than not, regardless of the weather.  We essentially lived at the pool every day.  But even then I knew about the change we’d get in August with respect to the swimming weather and the drop in our desire to swim.  I think the enhanced sense of change comes through a synergistic combination of decreases in temperature and humidity, as well as acclimatization.  The combination of both temperature and dew point is huge when it comes to getting in and out of the water, but the dew point is a big one for me.  I can remember being in Arizona a couple of summers back, and although it was probably 80 or 90 F, I got out of the pool and was immediately freezing and had to get to my towel because the water was evaporating and cooling me down so quickly.  It’s obviously not as dramatic here in Vermont, but you drop a few degrees from the temperatures, several degrees from the dew points, and combine this when you’ve been acclimated to July conditions, and it creates a pretty striking effect.  As the weather changed in August when we were kids, we would quickly find that we were much less enthused about playing around the pool and getting in and out of it all day, because it just wasn’t that comfortable to have to get out and warm up all the time.  I suspect it’s that same combination of factors that played into what went on at the pool where my wife worked.  This phenomenon was certainly taking place well ahead of the start of the school year, so it wasn’t as if families weren’t around.

 

We were living in Montana in 2002, so weren’t here to experience the period of heat you mentioned, but I just haven’t found real heat waves to be very common in this area in August.  For most of the swimming holes around here, I like to see three days in the 90s F to get them to temperatures where it’s really fun to hang out in them for a good chunk of the day, and August always seems to be a lost cause in that regard.  In my experience, if we haven’t hit them by the time August rolls around, it’s not likely to happen – it just seems very difficult to get the sustained heat and humidity for multiple days that brings them up to temperature and keeps them there.  We were hoping to hit one of our favorites, Bartlett Falls, over the weekend when the initial prognostications of a heat wave were forming, but that heat never really seemed to materialize.  I guess there’s always the chance that we could get a stretch of the appropriate heat and humidity in August, but it’s not something I’d bank on.  I just think that if that hot and steamy “dog days of August” bromide (meteorologically, not astronomically) was real around here, I would have experienced it by now and we’d get those occurrences of warming up those cold swimming holes.

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Strongest TS this year for MBY, though far from svr. It lasted 8:15-9:15 and about doubled my day's total to 1.45", month at 7.21", just 0.08" from July 2009. 1st 15 minutes of the storm was windy, gusts to about 35, but with only moderate RA. Next 15 had +RA; I'd guess that about 0.5" fell during that time. Last 30 minutes had light-mod RA, occasional lighter gusts, and the best light show I've seen since the 100/minute storm in Illinois 3 yr ago. That final half hour saw about 30/minute, twice the rate of the 1st half, and though I think most was C-C, there were a few vertical shots, including a parallel pair flashing a fraction of a second apart at 5 seconds distance, such that the crack sounded like one strike. Still lots of flashes to the east and a few low rumbles.

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Man is it raw out there...I've got 60F, but wind-driven sheet drizzle/mist/rain. I bet we are gusting near 30mph at times (you can hear it from inside, like the end of a winter storm) and the small droplet sheet rains are moving past the flood lights sideways.

Has more of a nor'easter feel than a July feel this evening. I noticed the mountain is gusting near 50mph at times, out of the NW...a more cold season occurrence.

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Damage in my 'hood from the storms yesterday.  A Limington neighborhood had about two dozen trees uprooted, some of which were leaning on houses.  GYX is sending peeps out there to survey it.  I drove by the area just after it happened yesterday ... it was really the only area with any damage that I saw.

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Damage in my 'hood from the storms yesterday.  A Limington neighborhood had about two dozen trees uprooted, some of which were leaning on houses.  GYX is sending peeps out there to survey it.  I drove by the area just after it happened yesterday ... it was really the only area with any damage that I saw.

 

 

And our friends over at GYX confirm it was a weak tornado that went through. :)

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Damage in my 'hood from the storms yesterday.  A Limington neighborhood had about two dozen trees uprooted, some of which were leaning on houses.  GYX is sending peeps out there to survey it.  I drove by the area just after it happened yesterday ... it was really the only area with any damage that I saw.

 

That was pretty much the only damage we could find as well. Drove through a few of the neighborhoods, and nothing besides a few small branches down. The most impressive stuff was definitely that Paul's Way neighborhood.

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Quality day in NNE...almost felt chilly up top with temps hovering in the low 50s this afternoon.  Already fallen back into the 40s up there now.  As long as we stay clear and calm, we should have no issue getting into the 40s tonight here in town, as we tend to radiate down around the evening MMNV1 temps.

 

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