snowlover2 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 New day 1 DAY 1 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOKNWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK1229 AM CDT MON JUN 16 2014VALID 161200Z - 171200Z...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS PARTS OF THE MID MO AND UPPERMS VALLEYS EWD TO PARTS OF THE WRN GREAT LAKES......SUMMARY...SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS PRODUCING DAMAGING WINDS...LARGE HAIL ANDTORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE ACROSS PORTIONS OF EASTERN SOUTH DAKOTAAND NEBRASKA EASTWARD ACROSS MUCH OF IOWA...SOUTHERN MINNESOTA...ANDWISCONSIN FROM THE AFTERNOON INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS.ELSEWHERE...ISOLATED SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE POSSIBLE OVERPORTIONS OF THE SOUTHEASTERN STATES...THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...ANDPARTS OF MONTANA....SYNOPSIS...AN UPPER SPEED MAX OVER THE NRN GREAT BASIN SUNDAY EVENING ISFORECAST TO MOVE TO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES REGION BY MONDAY EVENING.A BROAD BELT OF MODERATE TO STRONG MID-LEVEL FLOW WILL EXTEND FROMTHE UPPER GREAT LAKES SWWD INTO THE SWRN CONUS AS AN UPSTREAM JETSTREAK MOVES INTO THE BASE OF A LARGER-SCALE TROUGH OVER THE WRNSTATES. IN THE LOW LEVELS...A WEAK SURFACE LOW WILL MIGRATE EWDALONG THE NEB/SD BORDER AS A WARM FRONT ADVANCES NWD ACROSS THE MIDMO RIVER VALLEY AND REACHES THE MN/IA BORDER REGION BY EARLYEVENING. A DRYLINE WILL EXTEND SWD FROM CNTRL NEB INTO W TX....ERN HALVES OF SD/NEB EWD TO THE WRN GREAT LAKES...STRONG LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE TRANSPORT NWD WILL BE ONGOING MONDAYMORNING ON THE NOSE OF A 50 KT LLJ OVER THE CNTRL PLAINS.CONSIDERABLE UNCERTAINTY REMAINS REGARDING THE POTENTIAL FOR EARLYDAY STORM EVOLUTION AND ITS INFLUENCE ON THE PLACEMENT OF THEEFFECTIVE WARM FRONT AND/OR OUTFLOW BOUNDARY. DESPITE THESECONCERNS...STEEP MID-LEVEL LAPSE RATES IN EXCESS OF 8 DEG C PER KMATOP MID-UPPER 60S BOUNDARY LAYER DEWPOINTS WILL LIKELY RESULT IN AVERY UNSTABLE AIRMASS /MLCAPE 3000 J/KG OR GREATER/ TO THE E OF THEDRYLINE...S OF THE WARM FRONT...AND ANY EARLY DAY CONVECTIVEOUTFLOW. THE FOCUSING OF THE LLJ INTO ERN NEB/SD AND SRN MN/NRN IADURING THE DAY WILL LEAD TO LARGE HODOGRAPHS...ESPECIALLY NEAR THEWARM FRONT. DIURNALLY-GENERATED SCTD STORMS AND 40-50 KT EFFECTIVESHEAR WILL INCLUDE THE POSSIBILITY FOR INTENSE SUPERCELLS YIELDING ALARGE TO VERY LARGE HAIL/WIND THREAT AND THE POTENTIAL FOR A FEWTORNADOES /SOME PERHAPS SIGNIFICANT/. THE APPROACH OF A 50 KT H7WIND MAXIMUM DURING THE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT WILL SUPPORT ANORGANIZED WIND DAMAGE THREAT AS ACTIVITY GROWS UPSCALE AND MOVES EWDTOWARDS THE WRN GREAT LAKES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 New day 2 DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOKNWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK1218 AM CDT MON JUN 16 2014VALID 171200Z - 181200Z...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS MUCH OF THE NRNPLAINS...UPPER MS VALLEY...AND UPPER GREAT LAKES......SUMMARY...ISOLATED TO SCATTERED STORMS PRODUCING WIND AND HAIL WILL BEPOSSIBLE FROM THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND GREAT LAKES WESTWARDACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS....SYNOPSIS...THE PRESENCE OF A SLOW-MOVING UPPER LOW OVER THE NRN ROCKIES WILLMAINTAIN MODEST SWLY FLOW ALOFT ACROSS THE NRN AND CNTRLPLAINS...WITH AN UPPER HIGH CENTERED OVER TN. SUBSTANTIAL MOISTUREAND INSTABILITY WILL REMAIN ACROSS THE NRN PLAINS DUE TO SLY SURFACEWINDS WITH LOW PRESSURE FROM NEB INTO ERN WY THROUGH THE PERIOD. THEMEAN SYNOPTIC FRONT WILL GENERALLY EXTEND FROM NERN WY EWD ACROSS SDAND INTO SRN MN/NRN IA...AND WILL BE A FOCUS FOR STRONG TO SEVERESTORMS. A COLD FRONT OVER ERN MT WILL ALSO BE A FOCUS FOR SEVEREWEATHER BY LATE IN THE DAY AND ACROSS THE WRN DAKOTAS BY EVENING.ELSEWHERE...A LEADING SHORTWAVE DISTURBANCE WILL MOVE EWD ACROSS THEGREAT LAKES INTO THE NERN STATES BY WED EVENING...WITH A WLY INFLUXOF UNSTABLE AIR RESULTING IN A FEW STRONG THUNDERSTORMS THERE....WI EARLY...LOWER MI...NY...AN MCS MAY BE ONGOING TUE MORNING ACROSS SERN WI AND PERHAPS FAR NRNIL ON THE NOSE OF A SWLY LOW-LEVEL JET. AMPLE CAPE AND FAVORABLEMEAN WINDS SUGGEST A DAMAGING WIND THREAT. THESE STORMS WOULD LIKELYPERSIST ACROSS LOWER MI...AIDED BY AREAS OF HEATING. LATER IN THEEVENING AND OVERNIGHT...STORMS MAY RE-EMERGE ACROSS THE U.S. BORDERINTO NY...BUT SEVERE POTENTIAL IS DEPENDENT ON WHAT FORMS UPSTREAM....ERN DAKOTAS...MN...IA...WI...A COMPLICATED FORECAST SCENARIO WILL PLAY OUT FROM THE DAKOTAS INTOTHE UPPER MS VALLEY DURING THE DAY WITH DEVELOPMENT POSSIBLEANYWHERE ALONG THE FRONT. INSTABILITY AND SHEAR PROFILES WILL BEFAVORABLE FOR LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WINDS...WITH PERHAPS A FEWTORNADOES IF STORM MODE REMAINS CELLULAR. HOWEVER...THE GREATESTSIGNAL FOR AN ORGANIZED SEVERE STORM THREAT IS DURING THE EVENINGACROSS MUCH OF SRN MN...IA...AND WI NEAR THE WARM FRONT AND WHERE ITWILL BE MOST UNSTABLE. WHATEVER FORMS IN MN/WI COULD PROPAGATE SWDACROSS NERN IA AND NRN IL OVERNIGHT WITH DAMAGING WINDS AND HAIL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 New Day 3 DAY 3 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOKNWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK0224 AM CDT MON JUN 16 2014VALID 181200Z - 191200Z...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM THE NRN PLAINS AND UPPERMS VALLEY EASTWARD INTO PA......SUMMARY...SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED ACROSS MUCH OF THE NORTHERN ANDCENTRAL PLAINS INTO THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...AND FROM LOWERMICHIGAN EASTWARD INTO PENNSYLVANIA. ISOLATED SEVERE STORMS ARE ALSOPOSSIBLE FROM WESTERN KANSAS INTO WEST TEXAS. LARGE HAIL ANDDAMAGING WINDS WILL BE THE MAIN THREATS...WITH THE MOST SIGNIFICANTSEVERE ACROSS THE DAKOTAS AND MINNESOTA....SYNOPSIS...AN AMPLIFIED UPPER TROUGH IS FORECAST TO EMERGE ACROSS THE CNTRL ANDNRN HIGH PLAINS LATE ON WED...ALTHOUGH THE ECMWF IS A BIT SLOWER ANDKEEPS THE THERMAL GRADIENT ALOFT FARTHER W THAN THE GFS OR NAM.STILL...MERIDIONAL FLOW ALOFT WILL OVERSPREAD THE REGION...WITH ALOW PRESSURE TROUGH DEVELOPING FROM SD SWD INTO THE CNTRL HIGHPLAINS. SELY LOW-LEVEL WINDS WILL MAINTAIN SUBSTANTIAL MOISTURE ANDINSTABILITY OVER MUCH OF THE UPPER MS VALLEY WWD TOWARD THE SFCTROUGH.TO THE E...MODELS INDICATE A SHORTWAVE DISTURBANCE MAY AFFECT THELOWER MI TO PA CORRIDOR...WHERE IT WILL BE SUFFICIENTLY MOIST ANDUNSTABLE FOR STRONG TO SEVERE STORMS....ERN DAKOTAS...MN...NEB...IA...WRN WI...AREAS OF STORMS MAY BE ONGOING OR FORM RELATIVELY EARLY IN THE DAYACROSS SRN MN/IA DUE TO RAPID MOISTURE ADVECTION AS 850 MB FLOWBACKS AND INCREASES IN RESPONSE TO THE DEEPENING LOW. THESE STORMSCOULD POSE A LOCALIZED WIND/HAIL THREAT. THE GREATEST THREAT OFSEVERE SHOULD MATERIALIZE OVER ND AND NRN SD BY LATE AFTERNOONCOINCIDENT WITH THE STRONGEST LIFT NEAR THE PRESSURE TROUGH/COLDFRONT. THIS FRONT IS NOT EXPECTED TO MOVE QUICKLY...AND WITH BACKEDLOW-LEVEL FLOW...SUPERCELLS MAY FORM IN THIS AREA WITH LARGE HAILAND A FEW TORNADOES. WITH TIME...INCREASING LIFT FROM WARM ADVECTIONSHOULD LEAD TO A SEWD-MOVING MCS ACROSS MN AND SD...WITH OTHERACTIVITY DEVELOPING ALONG THE SURGING COLD FRONT INTO NEB WITH WINDAND HAIL....LOWER MI AND OH EWD INTO PA...A RIBBON OF LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE WILL BE MAINTAINED FORM THE MIDWESTEWD ACROSS THE OH VALLEY WITH WLY SFC FLOW AND A WEAK SFC TROUGH.MODELS INDICATE A SHORTWAVE DISTURBANCE TRAVELING FROM LOWER MI INTOPA DURING THE DAY...ON SRN PERIPHERY OF THE UPPER LOW OVER QUEBEC.THIS SUGGESTS THERE WILL BE A CORRIDOR OF MCS ACTIVITY...WITHDAMAGING WINDS POSSIBLE. INSTABILITY WILL BE SUFFICIENT...BUT NOTEXTREME...THUS SIGNIFICANT SEVERE IS NOT ANTICIPATED. UNIDIRECTIONALPROFILES ALOFT ALSO SUGGEST THAT THE TORNADO THREAT SHOULD BELOW...BUT COOL TEMPERATURES ALOFT WOULD STILL FAVOR MARGINALLYSEVERE HAIL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 nice overnight afd from LOT, timing isn't favorable for severe IMBY but i like my chances for a few convective complexes over the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Sioux-land across northern IA has been upgraded to moderate risk. There is already a line of strong to severe storms across eastern Nebraska. For my area it's mostly just a waiting game to see how the storms evolve through the day. The models are not very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Didn't someone post a couple of days ago a derecho heading out of IA/MN eastward overnight tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Didn't someone post a couple of days ago a derecho heading out of IA/MN eastward overnight tonight? naso sure about derecho but we should see a decent complex survive the night across S. WI I think a case can be made for some back building into LOT's northern CWA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 naso sure about derecho but we should see a decent complex survive the night across S. WI I think a case can be made for some back building into LOT's northern CWA I hope it survives overnight, it will probably not arrive at Lake Michigan until close to 12z, but by then the southerly winds will be back pumping in the moist air after a lake component this afternoon and evening, so that should help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I hope it survives overnight, it will probably not arrive at Lake Michigan until close to 12z, but by then the southerly winds will be back pumping in the moist air after a lake component this afternoon and evening, so that should help. nocturnal LLJ looks healthy so the southern edge (wherever it ends up) should be able maintain somewhat despite unfavorable timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 If the complex over eastern SD and eastern NE merges, as it looks like it will, we might not have to wait until late tonight for severe potential. It looks like that thing could traverse much of Iowa and southern MN during the afternoon, and cross the Mississippi by early evening. Don't see any reason why that complex would die out before reaching areas east of the Mississippi, as it will have access to plenty of cape and decent bulk shear. I sure hope I don't jinx it like I did yesterday lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 If the complex over eastern SD and eastern NE merges, as it looks like it will, we might not have to wait until late tonight for severe potential. It looks like that thing could traverse much of Iowa and southern MN during the afternoon, and cross the Mississippi by early evening. Don't see any reason why that complex would die out before reaching areas east of the Mississippi, as it will have access to plenty of cape and decent bulk shear. I sure hope I don't jinx it like I did yesterday lol. Yeah, based on the models it looked like that complex in E Nebraska may end up being the one initially modeled, in which case timing would be earlier than indicated by the majority of models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 initialization is poor, I wouldn't put too much stock in the models period. gonna have to watch for cold pool development and see if these things can turn southeast into more unstable air later this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 initialization is poor, I wouldn't put too much stock in the models period. gonna have to watch for cold pool development and see if these things can turn southeast into more unstable air later this evening. That being said the GFS Ensembles actually had a pretty good handle on location of this morning convection in E Nebraska and E South Dakota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 THIS EVENING...A LOW LEVEL JET IS PROGGED TO DEVELOP AHEAD OF ANAPPROACHING LOW KICKING OFF THUNDERSTORMS WHICH WILL INCREASE INCOVERAGE. MOST GLOBAL MODELS SHOW THE BULK OF THE ACTIVITY STAYINGOVER WISCONSIN...HOWEVER THERE ARE HINTS THAT SOME OF THESE STORMSCOULD PROPAGATE SOUTH INTO NORTHERN ILLINOIS IMPACTING THE TERMINALSLATE THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. WILL MAINTAIN A PROB30 FOR NOWGIVEN THE LACK OF CERTAINTY IN THIS SCENARIO PANNING OUT. HI-RESGUIDANCE IS ALL OVER THE PLACE AND OFFERS LITTLE INSIGHT INTO HOWCONVECTION MIGHT EVOLVE THIS EVENING AND TONIGHT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 there is a pocket of drier air around LaCrosse and the best airmass is confined well south, so i'm having a hard time buying into model solutions showing convective bullseyes so far north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Powderkeg stuff tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 gonna be very interesting to see just how far south the outflow boundary gets from tonight's action...hard to get into details tomorrow without that detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 gonna be very interesting to see just how far south the outflow boundary gets from tonight's action...hard to get into details tomorrow without that detail Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Moderate and slight risk areas were expanded a bit east on the 1630z outlook. The moderate is now into far southwestern WI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 baby steps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 LOT agrees with my thinking THE FORECAST FOR TONIGHT REMAINS TRICKY. CONVECTION NEAR THE NE/IABORDER IS PRIMARILY ELEVATED AND NOT REALLY CONGEALING OR BECOMINGROOTED LOWER AT THIS TIME...ALTHOUGH MAY BECOME A LITTLE MOREFAVORABLE IN TIME /SEE SPC MCD/. UPSCALE GROWTH IS EXPECTED INTOSOUTHERN MN WITH EVENTUAL CONGEALING INTO AN MCS THIS EVE INTOOVERNIGHT...WHICH A HIGH AMOUNT OF CONVECTIVE-ALLOWING GUIDANCESHOWS. WHILE MUCH OF THE GUIDANCE DOES BRING THE BRUNT OF THATNORTH OF THE AREA...THE PATTERN...SLOPE OF THE INSTABILITYGRADIENT...AND OBSERVATIONAL TRENDS WOULD INDICATE THAT MAYBE THESUITE OF GUIDANCE IS TOO FAR NORTH...AND AT LEAST THE SOUTHERNPORTION OF THE COMPLEX...OR WHAT BACKBUILDS AGAINST THE LOW-LEVEL JET NOSE WOULD EVOLVE INTO FAR NORTHERN IL LATE TONIGHT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 LOT agrees with my thinking THE FORECAST FOR TONIGHT REMAINS TRICKY. CONVECTION NEAR THE NE/IA BORDER IS PRIMARILY ELEVATED AND NOT REALLY CONGEALING OR BECOMING ROOTED LOWER AT THIS TIME...ALTHOUGH MAY BECOME A LITTLE MORE FAVORABLE IN TIME /SEE SPC MCD/. UPSCALE GROWTH IS EXPECTED INTO SOUTHERN MN WITH EVENTUAL CONGEALING INTO AN MCS THIS EVE INTO OVERNIGHT...WHICH A HIGH AMOUNT OF CONVECTIVE-ALLOWING GUIDANCE SHOWS. WHILE MUCH OF THE GUIDANCE DOES BRING THE BRUNT OF THAT NORTH OF THE AREA...THE PATTERN...SLOPE OF THE INSTABILITY GRADIENT...AND OBSERVATIONAL TRENDS WOULD INDICATE THAT MAYBE THE SUITE OF GUIDANCE IS TOO FAR NORTH...AND AT LEAST THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE COMPLEX...OR WHAT BACKBUILDS AGAINST THE LOW- LEVEL JET NOSE WOULD EVOLVE INTO FAR NORTHERN IL LATE TONIGHT. You're right, interestingly though MKX favors keeping the brunt of the complex even north of Milwaukee. Looking at the reality of the current storms, I envision the WI/IL border region and just north/south bearing the brunt once it starts moving ESE/SE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 You're right, interestingly though MKX favors keeping the brunt of the complex even north of Milwaukee. Looking at the reality of the current storms, I envision the WI/IL border region and just north/south bearing the brunt once it starts moving ESE/SE. it won't happen until the early morning hours anyways, the implications for tomorrow are more interesting at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 earlier NE complex is in the process of merging with the SD complex (almost looks like a WAA wing in the making) and the whole complex should continue to the east across far southern MN before heading more SE couple of decent storms heading into DVN's cwa as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 So much for the complex coming out of western Iowa this afternoon. Those storms crapped out. Looks like the complex will end up being late tonight after all for areas east of the MS river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 So much for the complex coming out of western Iowa this afternoon. Those storms crapped out. Looks like the complex will end up being late tonight after all for areas east of the MS river. I think cloud cover and even some stratiform rain ahead of the actual individual storms stabilized much of the western half to two-thirds of Iowa just enough to allow it to crap out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 storms along the effective warm front in IA/IL worth watching, especially if they develope a cold pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 THE STRONG UPPER JET AND ASSOCIATED SHORT WAVE...MAYBE EVENMULTIPLE WAVES PER WATER VAPOR...WILL YIELD A LIKELY MCS ACROSSOR NEAR THE MN/IA BORDER GIVEN MCS PARAMETERS IN PLACE. WITH THESTRONG MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY FEED VEERING AHEAD OF IT AND WITHITS OWN COLD POOL DEVELOPMENT...THERE SHOULD BE A MORE RAPIDPROGRESSION THROUGH LATER EVE INTO OVERNIGHT. WHICH WAY THISPROGRESSES HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT MODELS HAVE GRADUALLY STARTEDTO TREND MORE SOUTH WHICH AGREES WITH EARLIER THINKING AND MAKESSENSE WITH 1. THE NORTHWEST-TO-SOUTHEAST SLOPING INSTABILITYGRADIENT 2. THIS GRADIENT KEEPING THAT ORIENTATION ACROSSWESTERN/CENTRAL IL DUE TO ONGOING CONVECTION AND 3. THE 850-300MBTHICKNESSES/FLOW REMAINING EAST-SOUTHEAST ORIENTED. BECAUSE OFTHIS HAVE INCREASED POPS ACROSS THE NORTHERN FORECAST AREA WITHLIKELIES...ESPECIALLY AFTER 2 AM. WHETHER THE MCS SEVERE WINDPOTENTIAL DIMINISHES AS IT NEARS THE WI/IL BORDER...THERE STILLWILL LIKELY BE SOME BACKBUILDING ON ITS SOUTHERN END TOWARD THEINSTABILITY AND GIVEN ANGLE OF BACKWARD PROGRESSING CORFIDIVECTORS. NUMEROUS CONVECTIVE ALLOWING MODELS INDICATE THIS WITHCELLULAR DEVELOPMENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE...THAT COULD BRING MORE OFA HEAVY RAIN THREAT...ALONG WITH POTENTIAL FOR HAIL. SO AS THE SPCOUTLOOK SHOWS...THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT IS HIGHEST TO OURNORTHWEST BUT DOES SLOPE INTO OUR AREA...WITH WINDS BEING THEGREATEST...ESPECIALLY IF THE COLD POOL IS CONTINUING TO DRIVE THESYSTEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 What a mess of a setup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Interestingly enough, Northern Indiana's WFO disagrees with Alek and LOT: .SHORT TERM...(THIS EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY)ISSUED AT 354 PM EDT MON JUN 16 2014MAIN FOCUS FOR THE SHORT TERM WILL BE CONVECTIVE TRENDS THROUGH THEPERIOD. SHORT WAVE WHICH WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR SCATTERED SHOWERSACROSS NORTHEAST INDIANA EARLY TODAY HAS MOVED OFF TO THE EAST.THIS HAS RESULTED IN SOME WEAK MID LEVEL SUBSIDENCE THISAFTERNOON IN ITS WAKE. LITTLE IN THE WAY OF ADDITIONAL SYNOPTICFORCING MECHANISMS ARE EXPECTED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE AFTERNOONWITH DRY CONDITIONS EXPECTED.CONVECTION HAS DEVELOPED ACROSS WEST CENTRAL AND PORTIONS OF CENTRALILLINOIS IN SUBTLE WARM FRONTAL ZONE...WITH CO-LOCATION OF 100HPA MIXED LAYER CAPES ON THE ORDER OF 3000-3500 J/KG. THIS ZONE OFLOW LEVEL WARM ADVECTION SHOULD REACH INTO NORTHEASTILLINOIS/NORTHWEST INDIANA LATER THIS EVENING AND INTO THEOVERNIGHT...ALTHOUGH DIURNAL DIMINISHMENT OF SURFACE BASEDINSTABILITY WILL LIKELY LIMIT CONVECTIVE CHANCES WITH THIS WARMADVECTION FOR LOCAL AREA. DID MAINTAIN SLIGHT CHANCE POPS ACROSSTHE NORTHWEST WITH LOW PROBABILITY OF ISOLATED STORMS DEVELOPINGIN ASSOCIATION WITH THIS WAA FORCING LATE EVENING.THE HIGHER CHANCES OF PRECIP SHOULD OCCUR LATE TONIGHT AND INTOTUESDAY. SYNOPTIC SETUP WOULD APPEAR TO FAVOR FORWARD PROPAGATIONOF EASTERN SOUTH DAKOTA MCS INTO THE GREAT LAKES REGION OVERNIGHT.FORWARD PROPAGATING CORFIDI VECTORS WOULD APPEAR TO FAVOR MORE OF AEAST/NORTHEAST PROPAGATION TO ANY MCS TO THE NORTH. HOWEVER...WOULDEXPECT AS POTENTIAL MCS BEGINS TO OUTRUN GREATER INSTABILITY TOWARDMORNING...SOME TENDENCY FOR UPWIND PROPAGATION MAY INCREASE DUE TOGREATER ELEVATED INSTABILITY TO SOUTH...AND PRESENCE OF ROBUST LOWLEVEL JET. SOME POTENTIAL MAY ALSO EXIST FOR SOME SCATTERED SHOWERSAND STORMS TO DEVELOP ON OUTFLOWS DRIVEN SOUTHWARD FROM GREAT LAKESCONVECTION BY TUESDAY MORNING. GIVEN UNCERTAINTY WITH THISSETUP...FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME TO MAINTAIN MID TO HIGHCHANCE TSRA POPS OVERNIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING...MAINLY ACROSS THENORTH. NOT CURRENTLY EXPECTING MUCH IN THE WAY OF SEVERE THREATTONIGHT/EARLY TUESDAY MORNING WITH INSTABILITY RELATIVELY WEAK INNATURE AND ELEVATED.DETAILS IN TUESDAYS FORECAST STILL SOMEWHAT OF LOW CONFIDENCE ATTHIS TIME DUE TO DEPENDENCE OF OVERNIGHT CONVECTION ON MESOSCALEDETAILS. SOME INDICATION IN LATEST MODEL DATA THAT PASSAGE OFCONVECTIVELY ENHANCED VORT MAX TUESDAY MORNING MAY BE FOLLOWED BYVERY WEAK MID LEVEL HEIGHT RISES ONCE AGAIN. FORECAST SOUNDINGS ALSOSUGGEST EASTWARD ADVECTION OF EML INTO THE REGION DURING THEAFTERNOON POSING CAPPING CONCERNS. DID MAINTAIN HIGHEST CHANCE POPSIN THE MORNING BEFORE STRONG CAPPING LIKELY ENSUES. CANNOT DISCOUNTISOLD SEVERE THREAT GIVEN VERY UNSTABLE CONDITIONS AND MODEST DEEPLAYER SHEAR ACROSS THE NORTH. LIMITING FACTORS FOR SEVERE POTENTIALTUESDAY WILL BE AFOREMENTIONED CAPPING CONCERNS AND DIMINISHINGSYNOPTIC FORCING IN THE AFTERNOON. WAA TONIGHT WILL LEAD TO HOTCONDITIONS ON TUESDAY WITH HIGHS INTO THE LOWER 90SEXPECTED...ALTHOUGH POSSIBLY TEMPERED A BIT ACROSS THE NORTH DUETO RESIDUAL EFFECTS FROM OVERNIGHT/MORNING CONVECTION. SOUTH WINDSTO ALSO BECOME GUSTY INTO THE 20 TO 30 MPH RANGE TUESDAYAFTERNOON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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