Stebo Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 And the NAM starts to cave (Re: SLP track) for Wednesday... NAM suffering from some convective feedback at 700mb tomorrow, so take what it shows after tomorrow with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Anyone have any thoughts on where the greatest tornado threat may lay out on Wednesday? What I mean is will areas in immediate proximity to the sfc low/frontal boundary be a bit more favored vs. farther south or is the entire zone pretty much under a similar threat level? I've kinda been thinking the latter but would like to get some opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I-70 corridor might be an early guess, but with the model differences, it probably won't stay that way by any means. Also, judging by the wind fields throughout the warm sector, it doesn't look to be a solely warm front modulated threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Doctor Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Any bets on what the top wind gust will be with the MCS tomorrow evening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Illinois Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Any bets on what the top wind gust will be with the MCS tomorrow evening? I wouldn't be surprised if we saw close to a 85-90 mph gust with the MCS Sent from my SM-G900V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 3z RAP/HRRR are blowing the warm front well north to the SD border now. Interesting solutions and would have implications on the track of the eventual MCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Day 2 outlook just came out and mentions a possible upgrade to moderate risk once uncertainties are resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Day 2 outlook just came out and mentions a possible upgrade to moderate risk once uncertainties are resolved. Large 30% hatched region, all severe hazards highlighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Large 30% hatched region, all severe hazards highlighted. Looks like they are still hedging toward the southern placement to the point where my area is on the northern fringe of the slight risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 New Day 1 DAY 1 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOKNWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK0104 AM CDT TUE JUN 03 2014VALID 031200Z - 041200Z...THERE IS A MDT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS MUCH OF NEBRASKA AND INTOSOUTHERN IOWA AND ADJACENT NORTHERN MISSOURI......THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS EXTENDING FROM THE NRN HIGHPLAINS SEWD ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS/MID MO VALLEY TO THE MIDMS/LOWER OH VALLEYS......SUMMARY...AN OUTBREAK OF SEVERE STORMS IS FORECAST TUESDAY FROM THE NORTHERNHIGH PLAINS REGION EAST-SOUTHEASTWARD ACROSS NEBRASKA...NORTHERNKANSAS...IOWA...NORTHERN MISSOURI AND INTO ILLINOIS. LARGE HAIL ANDWIDESPREAD DAMAGING WINDS ARE LIKELY. IN ADDITION -- TORNADOES...AFEW STRONG...WILL ALSO BE POSSIBLE....SYNOPSIS...A STRONG SHORT-WAVE TROUGH FORECAST TO CREST THE S CENTRAL U.S.RIDGE AND SHIFT INTO THE NRN AND CENTRAL PLAINS IS FORECAST TO BETHE MAIN FEATURE ALOFT WITH RESPECT THE SEVERE CONVECTIVE FORECASTTHIS PERIOD. THIS FEATURE WILL DRIVE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS SURFACECYCLOGENESIS DURING THE AFTERNOON...WITH THE LOW THEN SHIFTING EWDTO THE MID MO VALLEY BY THE END OF THE PERIOD. A WARM FRONTEXTENDING ESEWD FROM THIS LOW IS EXPECTED TO FOCUS WIDESPREADSTRONG/SEVERE STORMS THROUGH THE PERIOD....NRN HIGH PLAINS ESEWD ACROSS THE MID MO/MID MS VALLEYS...A SUBSTANTIAL/WIDESRPEAD SEVERE WEATHER EVENT IS FORECAST THISPERIOD...WITH INITIAL STORMS EXPECTED EARLY ACROSS THE SWRN SDVICINITY WITHIN A ZONE OF STRONG QG FORCING AHEAD OF THE APPROACHINGUPPER SYSTEM. HAIL AND PERHAPS A STRONG GUST OR TWO WILL BEPOSSIBLE WITH THIS CONVECTION THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON.HEATING/DESTABILIZATION OF THE AIRMASS NEAR AND S OF THE SURFACEWARM FRONT ACROSS NEB WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE AFTERNOON...WITHMIXED-LAYER CAPE OF 1500 TO 3000 J/KG EXPECTED TO EVOLVE.CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT IS EXPECTED DURING THE MID TO LATE AFTERNOON-- INCLUDING MORE ISOLATED/HIGH-BASED STORMS ACROSS THE HIGH PLAINSFROM ERN MT TO WRN KS...AND MORE SUBSTANTIAL/WIDESPREAD STORMSACROSS SRN SD AND NEB INVOF THE SURFACE WARM FRONT. IN ADDITION TOTHE FAVORABLE THERMODYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT INVOF THE SURFACEBOUNDARY...VERY STRONG SHEAR IS FORECAST ACROSS THIS ZONE -- WHERELOW-LEVEL SLY/SELY WINDS WILL INCREASE RAPIDLY WITH HEIGHT AND VEERTO WLY THROUGH MID LEVELS WHERE 50-60 KT FLOW IS EXPECTED.WHILE THIS KINEMATIC ENVIRONMENT WILL BE STRONGLY SUPPORTIVE OFROTATING STORMS -- AND THUS INITIAL STORM DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE NEBVICINITY IS LIKELY TO RAPIDLY BECOME SUPERCELLULAR...A WIDE ARRAY OFMODEL DATA FROM VARIOUS RUNS REMAINS STRONGLY SUGGESTIVE OF RAPIDUPSCALE GROWTH INTO ONE OR MORE FAST-MOVING/BOWING-TYPE MCS/S.THUS...WHILE THE RISK FOR TORNADOES WILL EXIST -- INCLUDING A FEWSTRONG TORNADOES...WIDESPREAD DAMAGING WINDS WILL LIKELY BECOME THEPRIMARY SEVERE RISK THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND INTO THE EVENING ASSTORMS CROSS NEB AND SHIFT INTO IA/NRN MO. VERY LARGE HAIL WILLALSO BE LIKELY ACROSS THIS REGION INTO THE EVENING.OVERNIGHT...DAMAGING WIND RISK WILL CONTINUE AS STORMS MOVE RAPIDLYEWD...POSSIBLY CROSSING THE MS VALLEY AND SHIFTING INTO CENTRAL ILOVERNIGHT...GOSS/MOSIER.. 06/03/2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 New day 2 DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOKNWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK0100 AM CDT TUE JUN 03 2014VALID 041200Z - 051200Z...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS OVER A LARGE PART OF THE OHVALLEY INTO THE TN VALLEY......THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS OVER A PORTION OF THE HIGHPLAINS......SUMMARY...STRONG TO SEVERE STORMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP PRIMARILY THROUGHTHE OHIO VALLEY REGION WEDNESDAY WITH A THREAT FOR MAINLY DAMAGINGWIND AND LARGE HAIL. OTHER MORE ISOLATED STRONG TO SEVERE STORMSWILL BE POSSIBLE FROM SOUTHERN KANSAS INTO NORTHERN OKLAHOMA AND THENORTHERN...CENTRAL...AND SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS....SYNOPSIS...PROGRESSIVE UPPER PATTERN WILL PERSIST OVER THE NRN HALF OF THECOUNTRY WEDNESDAY. A FAST MOVING LOW AMPLITUDE SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILLCONTINUE THROUGH THE OH VALLEY...DEAMPLIFYING AS IT BECOMES ABSORBEDIN A BROADER SCALE UPPER TROUGH CENTERED OVER SERN CANADA. COLDFRONT THAT WILL MOVE SOUTH THROUGH THE OH VALLEY TUESDAY NIGHT OWINGTO CIRCULATION AROUND LOW PRESSURE IN SERN CANADA SHOULD LIFT BACKNWD AS A WARM FRONT WEDNESDAY WITH THE APPROACH OF THE LOW AMPLITUDEIMPULSE AND ITS ATTENDANT LLJ. THE SWRN EXTENSION OF THIS FRONT WILLACCELERATE SWD THROUGH THE MID MS VALLEY AND CNTRL PLAINS WITHPASSAGE OF THE SHORTWAVE TROUGH BEFORE LIKELY BECOMING STATIONARYFROM THE TX PANHANDLE INTO ARKANSAS WEDNESDAY NIGHT....OH VALLEY THROUGH CNTRL APPALACHIAN REGION...RICH GULF MOISTURE WILL RESIDE IN THE OH VALLEY WARM SECTOR SOUTH OFTHE WARM FRONT SUPPORTING MODERATE INSTABILITY AS THE SFC LAYERWARMS. AN MCS WILL LIKELY BE IN PROGRESS NORTH OF THIS BOUNDARY OVERTHE MID-UPPER MS VALLEY REGION. SOME UNCERTAINTY EXITS REGARDINGWHERE THE EFFECTIVE BOUNDARY WILL BE AND HOW FAR NORTH IT WILLADVANCE. ASCENT ACCOMPANYING THE PROGRESSIVE SHORTWAVE TROUGH ANDATTENDANT LLJ WILL SUPPORT REDEVELOPMENT AND INTENSIFICATION OFSTORMS AS WARM SECTOR DESTABILIZES...POSSIBLY ALONG SRN FRINGE OFTHE MCS AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG AND AHEAD OF THEFRONT. STRONG VERTICAL SHEAR AND LARGE 0-2 KM HODOGRAPHS WILLSUPPORT SUPERCELLS AND BOWING SEGMENTS. ALL SEVERE TYPES WILL BEPOSSIBLE INCLUDING DAMAGING WIND...LARGE HAIL AND TORNADOES.UNCERTAINTY REGARDING PLACEMENT OF BOUNDARY AND IMPACT OF MORNINGCONVECTION AND OUTFLOW BOUNDARIES PRECLUDES A MODERATE RISK UPGRADEAT THIS TIME. HOWEVER...A PORTION OF THE OH VALLEY MAY NEED TO BEINCLUDED IN A MODERATE RISK IN LATER OUTLOOKS...DIAL.. 06/03/2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 SPC pretty much removed all of northern IL of the severe risk between the two days. QC went from 45% hatched to a vanilla slight, Chicago sub-severe. Global models look to have smashed the NAM to **** once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 SPC pretty much removed all of northern IL of the severe risk between the two days. QC went from 45% hatched to a vanilla slight, Chicago sub-severe. Global models look to have smashed the NAM to **** once again. Interestingly the 00z RGEM is still farther north and would offer better severe potential around there. Almost feels like winter with the NAM/RGEM in one camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 SPC pretty much removed all of northern IL of the severe risk between the two days. QC went from 45% hatched to a vanilla slight, Chicago sub-severe. Global models look to have smashed the NAM to **** once again. If i understand the text right, they don't discount possibly shifting the risk area north some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 ILN AFD not totally ruling out the NAM and talking MCS and supercells. AREA FORECAST DISCUSSIONNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WILMINGTON OH413 AM EDT TUE JUN 3 2014.SYNOPSIS...A WEAK SURFACE BOUNDARY WILL PASS SOUTH OF OHIO AND LAY OUT OVERKENTUCKY THIS EVENING. THIS BOUNDARY WILL BE A FOCUS FOR SHOWERSAND THUNDERSTORMS INTO TONIGHT...BUT THEN SHIFT NORTHWARD AS AWARM FRONT EARLY ON WEDNESDAY. A STRONG SURFACE LOW WILL THENTRACK EAST ALONG THE WARM FRONT LATER WEDNESDAY...WITH STRONGTHUNDERSTORMS POSSIBLE AS IT PASSES.&&.NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/...CONVERGENT BOUNDARY IS IN EASTERN CWA AND MOVING AWAY THISMORNING. UPSTREAM...A SECOND W-E ORIENTED CONVERGENT BOUNDARY WILLBE THE KICKER FOR ANY SHOWERS OR THUNDERSTORMS THAT BECOME ACTIVETODAY OUTSIDE OF THE MORNING BOUNDARY THAT IS MOVING EAST ANDSOUTH OUT OF OUR CWA INTO WV AND KY. THE EARLIER RUNS OF THE SHORTERRANGE MODELS THAT ALLOW CONVECTIVE PROCESSES WERE A LITTLE MOREPERMISSIVE OF THIS SECONDARY BOUNDARY BECOMING ACTIVE THISMORNING. LATEST RUNS ARE NOT SO FAVORABLE BUT ONLY LOW CHANCE POPSWERE INCLUDED TODAY AND THE FEW STORMS CURRENTLY FIRING OVER NW OHAND NRN IND TELL ME TO KEEP THIS POTENTIAL FOR CONTINUEDDEVELOPMENT IN THE FORECAST FOR TODAY.OTHERWISE...HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN BEHIND THE CONVERGENTBOUNDARY WILL INHIBIT STORMS LATER TODAY AS THEY GET SHUNTED E ANDS OF THE AREA. LOWER 80S WILL BE A PRETTY UNIFORM HIGH TODAY UNDERCLOUDY SKIES THAT EXHIBIT A FAIRLY CONTINUOUS EROSION TOWARDSPARTLY SUNNY SKIES LATER IN THE DAY.&&.SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH FRIDAY/...BOUNDARY IN KY WILL LIFT NORTHWARD THROUGH THE AREA EARLYWEDNESDAY AFTER CLEARING SKIES TONIGHT LETS MOST OF THE REGIONDROP TO THE UPPER 50S OT LOWER 60S. EXTENDED PERIOD OF CLOUD COVERIN KY AND FAR SE IN WITH SUBSEQUENT DEVELOPMENT OF THE WARM FRONTWILL HOLD LOWS IN THESE AREAS TO THE UPPER 60S.AS THE FRONT LIFTS NORTHWARD...IT IS PROGGED TO STALL OUT SOUTH OFTHE I-70 CORRIDOR. A MID LEVEL SHORTWAVE IN FAIRLY QUICK ZONALFLOW AT H5 WILL PRECEDE THE SURFACE LOW AND INITIATE CONVECTIONALONG A LEADING LINE. SPC IS NOTING THE ABUNDANT MOISTURE IN PLACESOUTH OF THE WARM FRONT WITH A MCS MOVING EAST ALONG THE BOUNDARY.ENOUGH WARM AND UNSTABLE AIR MAY OCCUR WITH DAYTIME HEATING SOUTHOF THE FRONT TO SPAWN MORE THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT ON THE FRINGESOF THE EXPECTED MCS...SIMILAR TO POPUP STORMS ON AN OUTFLOWBOUNDARY ONLY IN A SLIGHTLY LARGER SCALE.THE ONLY REASON WHY POPS WERE NOT UPGRADED TO CATEGORICAL OVER CWAWAS THE SLOWER TIMING OF THE NAM. NAM IS LAGGING SIGNIFICANTLY ATH48 THAN THE CANADIEN...GFS...AND EUROPEAN MODELS. ENOUGH OF ADISCREPANCY TO HEDGE A POSSIBLE DIFFERENCE IN TIMING TOWARDS.WITH THE PRESENCE OF THE SURFACE LOW AND ITS ASSOCIATEDSHEAR...STORMS THAT DO DEVELOP ON WEDNESDAY HAVE A HIGHERPOTENTIAL FOR SUPERCELLULAR ACTIVITY AND SEVERE WEATHER.ONCE STORMS PASS TO THE OHIO RIVER WEDNESDAY EVENING...UNLESSSLOWER NAM IS CORRECT...NORTH WINDS IN THE WAKE OF THE LOW WILLPUSH DRIER AND COOLER AIR TO THE REGION SO THAT HIGHS THURSDAYWILL BE IN THE LOWER 70S AND READINGS ON FRIDAY WILL STILL BE HARDPRESSED TO REACH 80 IN THE FAR SOUTH. OVERNIGHT LOWS IN THE 50SWILL ALSO BE QUITE WELCOME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 SPC pretty much removed all of northern IL of the severe risk between the two days. QC went from 45% hatched to a vanilla slight, Chicago sub-severe. Global models look to have smashed the NAM to **** once again. the writing has been on the wall for days now 6z NAM jumped way south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 From the 1300z SPC OTLK... since it mentioned Illinois BY THIS EVENING...CONVECTION-ALLOWING MODEL GUIDANCE REMAINS IN GOOD AGREEMENT IN SUGGESTING THAT STORMS WILL GROW UPSCALE INTO AN MCS COMPOSED OF HP SUPERCELLS AND BOWING STRUCTURES. GIVEN THE SYNOPTIC-SCALE SETUP AND THE VOLATILE COMBINATION OF VERTICAL SHEAR AND INSTABILITY...THE POTENTIAL WILL EXIST FOR A PROGRESSIVE DERECHO EVENT FROM ERN NEB THROUGH SRN IA...NRN MO INTO W-CNTRL IL THIS EVENING THROUGH TONIGHT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 NAM not backing down. 12z run looks a touch farther north than its 0z run even...through 12z Wednesday. Scoring the coup? Mind you I don't really know if its biases/errors are the same in the warm season, as they are in the cold season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 hi-res NAM essentially barfs convection over IA tonight, like 80% of the state under one massive 45+ dbz cluster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadotony Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 hi-res NAM essentially barfs convection over IA tonight, like 80% of the state under one massive 45+ dbz cluster It overestimates extent of high reflectivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 It overestimates extent of high reflectivity. i mean, obviously the state isn't going to be covered in a single massive cell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Illinois Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Anyone think a PDS Severe Thunderstorm watch is likely later this evening for the possible Derecho? Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Anyone think a PDS Severe Thunderstorm watch is likely later this evening for the possible Derecho? Sent from my SM-G900V Tornado threat will probably exist with the MCS as well, would suspect a tornado watch with very elevated wind probs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 GFS looks to have taken a respectable jump north with MCS trajectory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Not sure what to think here regarding tomorrow. A plausible scenario is that the morning activity focuses most of the afternoon redevelopment farther south. Assuming we can recover as progged, parameters would certainly support chances for severe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Not sure what to think here regarding tomorrow. A plausible scenario is that the morning activity focuses most of the afternoon redevelopment farther south. Assuming we can recover as progged, parameters would certainly support chances for severe. Not going to be surprised if there is a D2 mod hoisted in the next outlook, since there does appear to be some agreement over the highest risk corridor finally (possibly the I-70 corridor southward to the Ohio River if I had to guess although there still is potential further north), parameters would certainly support a significant damaging wind event and also a notable tornado threat with strong deep layer shear oriented favorably for at least a few supercells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Illinois Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Looks like they expanded both the slight risk and moderate risk more south in to MO Sent from my SM-G900V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 They mention in the text that a high risk area may be needed in next outlook update. DAY 1 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOKNWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK1129 AM CDT TUE JUN 03 2014VALID 031630Z - 041200Z...THERE IS A MDT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS PARTS OF NORTHERN ANDEASTERN NEBRASKA...WESTERN/SOUTHERN IOWA...NORTHERN MISSOURI ANDWESTERN ILLINOIS......THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS SURROUNDING THE MDT RISK AREAFROM THE NRN HIGH PLAINS TO MID MS VALLEY/MIDWEST......SUMMARY...AN OUTBREAK OF SEVERE STORMS IS FORECAST THIS AFTERNOON THROUGHTONIGHT FROM PARTS OF NEBRASKA THROUGH IOWA...NORTHERNMISSOURI...AND INTO ILLINOIS. DESTRUCTIVE WINDS...VERY LARGEHAIL...AND A COUPLE OF STRONG TORNADOES ARE EXPECTED....SYNOPSIS...FAST-MOVING SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND ASSOCIATED 70KT MID-LEVEL SPEED MAXCURRENTLY CROSSING THE GREAT BASIN/INTERMOUNTAIN WEST WILL CREST ASTRONG SUB-TROPICAL RIDGE AND PRODUCE MODEST MID-LEVEL HEIGHT FALLSACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS THROUGH THIS EVENING. IN ADDITION TOSPURRING LEE-SIDE CYCLOGENESIS ACROSS THE CENTRAL HIGHPLAINS...LARGE SCALE ASCENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE MID/UPPERDISTURBANCE WILL BE FOCUSED ALONG AND NORTH OF A WARM FRONT SITUATEDFROM NEB PANHANDLE ESEWD TO NEAR THE IA/MO BORDER.A BROAD ZONE OF SFC LOW PRESSURE OVER ERN WY/CO WILL CONSOLIDATEINTO LEE-CYCLONE AND TRACK TO WRN NEB BY THIS EVENING. ADDITIONALMESO-LOWS/FRONTAL WAVES MAY FORM AND TRACK EAST ALONG THE WARMFRONT...AIDED BY LATENT HEATING/DEEP CONVECTION...INTO LATE EVENING.SOUTH OF THE LOW/WARM FRONT...A DRYLINE/THERMAL TROUGH WILLSTRENGTHEN THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND EXTEND FROM WRN NEB SSWWDTHROUGH WRN KS TO FAR ERN NM.IN THE EAST...COLD FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH DEEP LOW PRESSURE NEARJAMES BAY WILL CONTINUE EAST FROM ERN GREAT LAKES TO NEW ENGLAND....SD/NEB TO IA/MO THROUGH LATE EVENING...INTENSE STORMS POSING PRIMARILY A THREAT FOR LARGE HAIL ARE ALREADYUNDERWAY NORTH OF SFC WARM FRONT AND NEAR THE SD/NE BORDER THISMORNING /REF WW 206/. THIS CONVECTION WAS LIKELY ROOTED ABOVE THE850MB LEVEL IN AN ENVIRONMENT CHARACTERIZED BY STEEPENING MID-LEVELLAPSE RATES AND STRONG VERTICAL SHEAR. EXPECT THESE ELEVATED STORMSTO PERSIST GIVEN MASS AND MOISTURE FLUXES NOW UNDERWAY IN RESPONSETO LARGE SCALE ASCENT AND DIABATIC PROCESSES.BY MID-AFTERNOON...ELEVATED STORMS WILL CONTRIBUTE TO... 1) AREINFORCEMENT OF THE EXISTING LOW LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE/WARMFRONT...AND 2) A DEEPENING COLD POOL ALONG AND NORTH OF THE FRONT.MODEST TO LOCALLY STRONG WARM SECTOR SFC HEATING WILL CONTRIBUTE TOWEAKENING INHIBITION AND AN INCREASING POTENTIAL FOR CONVECTION TOBECOME ROOTED IN A VERY UNSTABLE BOUNDARY LAYER NEAR THE FRONT BYLATE AFTERNOON. ADDITIONAL STORMS ARE EXPECTED TO INCREASE WITHINTHE LOW-LEVEL UPSLOPE FLOW REGIME OVER PARTS OF SD/NEB.A FEW MODELS SUPPORT AT LEAST ISOLATED WARM SECTOR DISCRETE STORMSBY LATE AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING ACROSS CNTRL/ERN NEB. ANY DISCRETESTORMS INITIATING NEAR THE WARM FRONT WILL EXIST IN AN IDEALENVIRONMENT FOR TORNADIC SUPERCELLS WITH EFFECTIVE SRH IN EXCESS OF200 M2/S2 AND RELATIVELY LOW LFC. AWAY FROM THE FRONT AND NEAR THEDRYLINE...HEATING AND DEEPER MIXING MAY OFFSET THE TORNADO POTENTIALSOMEWHAT AND RESULT IN MORE OUTFLOW-DOMINANT STORMS WITH HIGH WINDAND VERY LARGE HAIL POTENTIAL.WHILE ABOVE SCENARIO HAS LOW TO MODEST CONFIDENCE...GREATERCONFIDENCE EXISTS IN THE CONTINUATION AND GRADUAL UPSCALE GROWTH OFONGOING CONVECTION INTO AN COMPLEX OF EVEN MORE INTENSESTORMS...INCLUDING EMBEDDED SUPERCELLS...MOVING ESEWD TO ERN NEB ANDTHEN TO SRN IA/NRN MO THROUGH THE LATE EVENING. THIS CONVECTION WILLDEVELOP INTO AN AXIS OF STRONG INSTABILITY /SBCAPE TO 3000-4000 JPER KG/ COINCIDENT WITH INTENSIFICATION OF A WLY 60-70KT MID-LEVELJET. BOTH PARALLEL ARW/NMMB HIRES WINDOWS DEPICT THIS SCENARIO QUITEWELL BUT STILL OFFER DIFFERING OUTCOMES IN TIME/INTENSITY ANDPLACEMENT OF GREATEST HIGH WIND POTENTIAL.THUS...WILL MAINTAIN A RELATIVELY HIGH CONFIDENCE FORECAST INDERECHO EVOLUTION ACROSS NEB/IA/MO AREA THROUGH THE LATE EVENING.EXPECT AN INCREASING CHANCE FOR WIDESPREAD DAMAGING WINDS...LARGEHAIL...AND A COUPLE OF POTENTIALLY STRONG TORNADOES IN THESE AREAS.IF CONFIDENCE CONTINUES TO INCREASE IN THIS WIDESPREAD SEVERE WINDSCENARIO...A HIGH RISK AREA MAY BE ADDED IN THE AFTERNOON SWODY1UPDATE....ACROSS THE MS RIVER TO IL/IND BEFORE DAYBREAK WED...MCS/DERECHO SHOULD MAINTAIN DAMAGING WIND AND SOME HAIL POTENTIALEAST ACROSS THE MS RIVER AND INTO IL/IND...ESPECIALLY AFTER MIDNIGHTCDT. WHILE BOUNDARY LAYER STABILIZATION MAY ACT TO OFFSET MORESUBSTANTIAL WIND THREAT WITH TIME...UPSCALE STORM ORGANIZATION ANDCONTINUING LARGE SCALE SUPPORT FOR ASCENT SUGGESTS AT LEAST MODESTSEVERE WIND PROBABILITIES/SLGT RISK AREA IS WARRANTED AS FAR EAST ASCENTRAL IND THROUGH DAYBREAK WED....LOWER GREAT LAKES/OH VALLEY NEWD TO CHAMPLAIN VALLEY...DIURNAL HEATING OF MIDDLE 60S-LOWER 70S PRE-FRONTAL SFCDEWPOINTS WILL SUPPORT POCKETS OF MLCAPE FROM 1000 TO 2000 J/KG THISAFTERNOON. THE STRONGEST INSTABILITY IS FORECAST TO OCCUR ACROSS THEOHIO VALLEY -- I.E. IN THE WAKE OF A BAND OF WEAK H85-H7 WARMADVECTION AND ASSOCIATED CLOUDS/PRECIPITATION CROSSING THE CNTRLAPPALACHIANS. LOW-LEVEL ASCENT ALONG AND AHEAD OF A COLD FRONTCROSSING THE GREAT LAKES WILL BE WEAK...BUT SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT FORISOLATED TO WIDELY SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS. THIS ASCENT WILL BELOCALLY AUGMENTED BY DIFFERENTIAL-HEATING-INDUCED BAROCLINICITYAHEAD OF THE ZONE OF WARM ADVECTION -- I.E. ACROSS NRN NY TO THECHAMPLAIN VALLEY. HOWEVER...GIVEN THE MAGNITUDE OF THEAFOREMENTIONED BUOYANCY AND 30-40 KT OF MID-LEVEL FLOW...SPORADICINSTANCES OF DMGG WINDS AND MARGINALLY SVR HAIL WILL BE POSSIBLEWITH CONVECTION PRIMARILY ORGANIZED IN MULTICELL CLUSTERS...CARBIN/COHEN/KERR.. 06/03/2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 New day 2 stayed at slight risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 New day 2 stayed at slight risk. DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOKNWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1240 PM CDT TUE JUN 03 2014 VALID 041200Z - 051200Z ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS OVER A LARGE PART OF THE OH VALLEY INTO THE TN VALLEY... ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS OVER PORTIONS OF THE HIGH PLAINS INTO CENTRAL KS... ...SUMMARY... STRONG TO SEVERE STORMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP PRIMARILY THROUGH THE OHIO VALLEY REGION WEDNESDAY WITH A THREAT FOR MAINLY DAMAGING WIND AND LARGE HAIL...THOUGH A TORNADO THREAT CANNOT BE RULED OUT. OTHER MORE ISOLATED STRONG TO SEVERE STORMS WILL BE POSSIBLE FROM SOUTHERN MISSOURI...SOUTHERN KANSAS INTO NORTHERN OKLAHOMA...AND THE NORTHERN...CENTRAL...AND SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS. ...SYNOPSIS... A PROGRESSIVE UPPER PATTERN WILL PERSIST OVER THE NRN HALF OF THE COUNTRY WEDNESDAY. A FAST MOVING LOW AMPLITUDE SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE OH VALLEY...DEAMPLIFYING AS IT BECOMES ABSORBED IN A BROADER SCALE UPPER TROUGH CENTERED OVER SERN CANADA. THE ERN PORTION OF A COLD FRONT MOVING SOUTH THROUGH THE OH VALLEY AND CENTRAL APPALACHIANS DURING DAY 1...SHOULD EXTEND WWD FROM DELMARVA THROUGH NRN VA INTO WV AND ALONG THE OH RIVER IN SWRN OH/NRN KY. THE WRN EXTENT OF THIS COLD FRONT SHOULD ALREADY BE LIFTING BACK NWD AS A WARM FRONT THROUGH CENTRAL IL...SRN IND AND ADJACENT KY AT 12Z WEDNESDAY. THE N/NEWD MOVEMENT OF THIS BOUNDARY WILL PERSIST THROUGH DAY 2 ACROSS THE OH VALLEY...GIVEN THE APPROACH OF THE LOW AMPLITUDE IMPULSE AND ITS ATTENDANT LLJ. MEANWHILE...A SWRN EXTENSION OF THIS FRONT WILL ACCELERATE SWD THROUGH THE MID MS VALLEY AND CNTRL PLAINS WITH PASSAGE OF THE SHORTWAVE TROUGH BEFORE LIKELY BECOMING STATIONARY FROM THE TX PANHANDLE INTO ARKANSAS WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THE PASSAGE OF THE SHORTWAVE TROUGH DURING THE SECOND HALF OF DAY 2 ACROSS THE OH VALLEY AND CENTRAL APPALACHIANS WILL SUPPORT THE SWD MOVEMENT OF THE FRONT AND SHOULD EXTEND FROM ERN PA SWWD THROUGH NRN VA TO PERHAPS THE KY/TN BORDER. ...OH VALLEY THROUGH CNTRL APPALACHIAN REGION... AN ENHANCED SLIGHT RISK AREA WILL BE MAINTAINED FOR THE DAY 2 OUTLOOK WITH DAMAGING WINDS AND HAIL BEING THE PRIMARY THREATS...THOUGH ISOLATED TORNADOES CANNOT BE RULED OUT. THE COMBINATION OF LATE DAY 1 MCS THAT SHOULD BE LOCATED IN PARTS OF IL AND PERHAPS CENTRAL IND AT 12Z WEDNESDAY...AND ONGOING EARLY DAY 2 CONVECTION ALONG THE RETREATING WARM FRONT PROVIDE UNCERTAINTY WITH REGARDS TO 1/ THE NWD ADVANCEMENT OF THE WARM FRONT AND 2/ ANY ATTENDANT OUTFLOW BOUNDARIES THAT WOULD BE A FOCUS FOR TSTMS. RICH GULF MOISTURE WILL RESIDE IN THE OH VALLEY WARM SECTOR SUPPORTING MODERATE-STRONG INSTABILITY AS THE SFC LAYER WARMS. SOME STABILIZING EFFECTS FROM EARLY DAY 2 CONVECTION IN THE LOWER OH VALLEY AND A CAP ROOTED AROUND 700 MB MAY LIMIT NEW TSTM DEVELOPMENT UNTIL THE AFTERNOON. ASCENT ACCOMPANYING THE PROGRESSIVE SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND ATTENDANT LLJ WILL SUPPORT REDEVELOPMENT AND INTENSIFICATION OF STORMS AS WARM SECTOR DESTABILIZES...POSSIBLY ALONG SRN FRINGE OF THE MCS AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE WARM FRONT. STRONG VERTICAL SHEAR AND LARGE 0-2 KM HODOGRAPHS WILL SUPPORT SUPERCELLS AND BOWING SEGMENTS. ALL SEVERE TYPES WILL BE POSSIBLE INCLUDING DAMAGING WIND...LARGE HAIL AND TORNADOES. UNCERTAINTY REGARDING PLACEMENT OF BOUNDARY AND IMPACT OF MORNING CONVECTION AND OUTFLOW BOUNDARIES CONTINUES TO PRECLUDE A MODERATE RISK UPGRADE AT THIS TIME. HOWEVER...A PORTION OF THE OH VALLEY MAY NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN A MODERATE RISK IN LATER OUTLOOKS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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