powderfreak Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 summer just began today too...it's not like what we have is anything abnormal...I guess expectations are a little altered b/c in the past we've already seen a heat wave somewhere by now or we've been dealing with higher amounts of humidity but summer just started lol. This month has been pretty normal overall...at least temp wise... at the BTV ring of red up there in the northern half of the Champlain Valley. As usual, BTV leading the way on departures, while MPV and 1V4 climo sites east of the Greens come in with departures like a full 3-4 degrees cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Jerry is right. Fantastic times. And Wiz, that was a joke since you want to be reminded how nice the wx is. I know it was a joke lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 at the BTV ring of red up there in the northern half of the Champlain Valley. As usual, BTV leading the way on departures, while MPV and 1V4 climo sites east of the Greens come in with departures like a full 3-4 degrees cooler. I never fully understood how you can have a vastly small area of extreme departures while departures around it or much less extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I never fully understood how you can have a vastly small area of extreme departures while departures around it or much less extreme. I just posted about it in NNE thread with some more details... but the climate normals think that Burlington and Saint Johnsbury have the same climate. There's no way that's correct...the Champlain Valley at 300ft has to be 2-3 degrees warmer than the upper CT Valley in NE VT at 700ft. CAD, radiational cooling, 400ft extra elevation...I can't figure out how long term climo thinks those two sites are the same climate. What ends up happening is, obviously St Johnsbury comes in a few degrees colder, but since long term climo records think the climates are the same, St J gets a negative departure, while BTV gets a positive departure and you end up with a map like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 at the BTV ring of red up there in the northern half of the Champlain Valley. As usual, BTV leading the way on departures, while MPV and 1V4 climo sites east of the Greens come in with departures like a full 3-4 degrees cooler. BTV: +2.9 MVL: +1.8 PBG: +1.2 MPV: 0.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 BTV: +2.9 MVL: +1.8 PBG: +1.2 MPV: 0.0 See the NNE thread...I just don't believe the average temperatures are correct (though I guess they have to be) at 1V4 and MPV which is throwing off their departures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I just posted about it in NNE thread with some more details... but the climate normals think that Burlington and Saint Johnsbury have the same climate. There's no way that's correct...the Champlain Valley at 300ft has to be 2-3 degrees warmer than the upper CT Valley in NE VT at 700ft. CAD, radiational cooling, 400ft extra elevation...I can't figure out how long term climo thinks those two sites are the same climate. What ends up happening is, obviously St Johnsbury comes in a few degrees colder, but since long term climo records think the climates are the same, St J gets a negative departure, while BTV gets a positive departure and you end up with a map like that. That's really interesting...glad to know that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 See the NNE thread...I just don't believe the average temperatures are correct (though I guess they have to be) at 1V4 and MPV which is throwing off their departures. You're still just talking about 20 days of departures versus the long term climate. It's fairly easy for a pattern to set in for 20 days that favors the large positive departure from BTV to 1V4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 You're still just talking about 20 days of departures versus the long term climate. It's fairly easy for a pattern to set in for 20 days that favors the large positive departure from BTV to 1V4. This isn't the first time I've talked about this though...I'll try to grab some actual annual temperatures to illustrate it later. Gotta add up the F6s. I'll bet anything St J comes in a few cooler than BTV. I remember talking to CTsnowstorm about this when he was at Lyndon...how MVL climate is listed as a few degrees colder than 1V4 and we couldn't figure it out as they are both in that 700ft elevation range east of the Greens, and how MPV was warmer than MVL despite being 500ft higher in elevation and it's not like MPV doesn't radiate at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 C'mon fellas, don't rush away 6 months of life. Enjoy today. Hopefully we're all well tomorrow. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 COC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 There's a reason why it's been so easy for Kev to stay away. It's called having nothing to talk about.He browses anonymously all day. Only death could keep him away from here and even that's not a certainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikehobbyst Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 The 00Z Euro for 6/22 says all aboard Tips space shuttle rocket fuel heat wave for early July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 The 00Z Euro for 6/22 says all aboard Tips space shuttle rocket fuel heat wave for early July.It keeps getting muted when we get inside d7-8. It's going to get us eventually. The euro hits us over the top after torching the James Bay area to 90F. I'd take that d10 prog if we can cool it right back down. That would be near 100F for IZG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 COC, Wiz. also, managed to get my station back up on WU ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 More clouds than sun since 9:00a.m., ftl. Dew's a bit higher than yesterday, but at this point, temps still on the cool side. 66.5/52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Cool but comfortable day. Progs suggest real heat 7/1 and beyond which is not so unusual if you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone-68 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'm hard pressed to recall a longer stretch of dull weather in my lifetime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Cool but comfortable day. Progs suggest real heat 7/1 and beyond which is not so unusual if you think about it. Heat in July is unheard of. No heat this weekend. More clouds than sun both days, ftl. 70.0/50. Managed .8* more than yesterday so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 It is book-ender season, so we'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Day 10 euro would be nice if the system was deeper then we would atleast have something to talk about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Starts showing up at day 5 so I guess its wait and see if models catch on or its a euro phantom storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Hopefully we can keep the heat away for a little while longer...I know of at least one patch of snow holding on at the ski resort, would like it to make July 4th before melting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma blizzard Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 wtf is the euro doing at hr 192 off the mid-atlantic coast on the 12z run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 wtf is the euro doing at hr 192 off the mid-atlantic coast on the 12z run? It's a rapid phase transitioned, book-end vortex that takes on TC profile before immediately weakening over the shelf waters S of LI. Probably won't be there in reality, but it is not impossible for that to happen. Again, book-end spin ups (along the trailing ends of old boundaries) are more common in the beginning and end of TC season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Day 10 euro would be nice if the system was deeper then we would atleast have something to talk about What would be nice with showers and breezes to 10-20 mph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 after looking things over ... increasing confidence for positive departures closing out the month then heading into the 4th weekend. could be a break in there with frontalysis running into strengthening sub-tropic ridging exerting back N-NW from the S ...convective wetness, but temps probably rebound as any such boundary is ineffectual. Looking warm to hot, then steamy and thundery followed by more heat. No comment on extremeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Great three day stretch for second half of June. Friday...66/43 Saturday...67/39 Sunday...76/47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Great three day stretch for second half of June. Friday...66/43 Saturday...67/39 Sunday...76/47 PVD will be BN after today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Love the boring June weather, more please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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