Typhoon Tip Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 this is a wallpaper worthy run of the euro Fairly potent heat wave on that sucker... very nearby if not involving NE.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Ah, not so simple. On point, heat kills, with as much frequency. Not everyone can "deal with the heat," either In fact, hurricanes are easier evaded. One's coming, evacuate. Problem solved. One cannot as readily escape the scope of a continental heat dome, particularly if they are of poorer class and/or can't avail of protective structures in general. Heat is an event in the atmosphere, period. It should be recognized and quantified. Btw, I think cold waves should as well. meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 meh Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 MWN....they've got a current wind chill of 15F. image.jpg Apparently they have a new museum up there. It was constructed off site in Massachusetts and then moved on-site. Pretty interesting! I wonder if anyone here was involved with that? http://www.masslive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2014/06/mount_washington_going_to_extr.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Chilly day up at home...what a cool shot. Temps struggling in the upper 50s to low 60s east of he Green Mtn Spine and back across NNH. Champlain Valley warmest in the mid/upper 60s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I actually think that's pretty good for atmospheric events... Given the intrinsic chaotic nature of atmospheric dynamics/emergent process, it's harder to get a .3 correlation (I think) than it is compared to mere dice rolls. But ur a better gambler than me ha Agreed...it is definitely a decent correlation...even the NAO correlation for places like the Mid-Atlantic in winter is only around 0.5...so ENSO giving us a >0.3 correlation for summer temps is pretty useful. Of course, we have summers that buck the trend...2002 comes to mind. Perhaps this one will be another, but its too soon to tell yet...though if we're trying to buck the trend, its a good start...June looks like it may come in around +1-ish at many sites in our region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Ah, not so simple. On point, heat kills, with as much frequency. Not everyone can "deal with the heat," either In fact, hurricanes are easier evaded. One's coming, evacuate. Problem solved. One cannot as readily escape the scope of a continental heat dome, particularly if they are of poorer class and/or can't avail of protective structures in general. Heat is an event in the atmosphere, period. It should be recognized and quantified. Btw, I think cold waves should as well. I know heat kills. Worst American wx disasters have been heat related. Every city (today, not in the past) sets up cooling stations in big heat events. If you are unwilling to avail yourself of these, I don't know what to say. Mostly elderly perish in these, and poor, but what else can be done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I know heat kills. Worst American wx disasters have been heat related. Every city (today, not in the past) sets up cooling stations in big heat events. If you are unwilling to avail yourself of these, I don't know what to say. Mostly elderly perish in these, and poor, but what else can be done? Well one can also say the same thing about stubborn coastal yokes, too, when the more urgently you warn them about the impending disaster ... the more iron-hulled and undeterred they become -- then of course the rest of us get the envious pleasure of fishing out their bloated corpses as they bob in the flotsam choked surge waters. Same thing. If they are not going to head warning and take cover/evacuate when advised to do so, they goose storm-statistic casualties. Point is, heat and cold wave ( and mind you, it's just my opionion) should be included; called the big six: blizzards, 'canes, 'nadoes, flood, heat and cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Folks I would take that heat signal showing up on the latter operational runs as more than mere flitting chaos in the latter operational runs... With the PNA officially into its 'useful as teets on a bull' time of year, and the best summer correlated teleconnector, the NAO, flipping phase, the natural tendency is to establish more subtropical ridging and an expansion of the heat girdle around our side of the hemisphere. Can't say which model is righter or wronger in this vision, but Euro was pretty mammoth in its circumvallate of +20C 850mb air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Folks I would take that heat signal showing up on the latter operational runs as more than mere flitting chaos in the latter operational runs... With the PNA officially into its 'useful as teets on a bull' time of year, and the best summer correlated teleconnector, the NAO, flipping phase, the natural tendency is to establish more subtropical ridging and an expansion of the heat girdle around our side of the hemisphere. Can't say which model is righter or wronger in this vision, but Euro was pretty mammoth in its circumvallate of +20C 850mb air. Euro Ens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 GFS ens max out 850's about 16.5 -17.5 in SNE, nice summer weather, some humid days thrown in for those who like that but seems pretty July typical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 GFS ens max out 850's about 16.5 -17.5 in SNE, nice summer weather, some humid days thrown in for those who like that but seems pretty July typical 17C at 850mb should get you to 90F or above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Euro EnsHe did something to those maps...he used to have all 51 members. That's not 51 there anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 GFS ens max out 850's about 16.5 -17.5 in SNE, nice summer weather, some humid days thrown in for those who like that but seems pretty July typical Keep the heat away, Ginxy...no matter how hard others try to bring it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 17C at 850mb should get you to 90F or above. perfect beach weather, 80s on the shore, ssw winds, surfs up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Keep the heat away, Ginxy...no matter how hard others try to bring it in. huh? just showed Ens data was different than ops extensive +20C. Perfect beach weather, it is summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Or, the operational runs could dip into the NAO suggestion and sear us to tears... Gosh forbid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 perfect beach weather, 80s on the shore, ssw winds, surfs up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Pretty sure we get some hot wx near the start of July into the first week of July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 The euro ensembles get a trough into the PAC NW which then rips the heat dome to the east. There are signs of troughing in the northeast which may cause some moderation with the heat in the form of fronts to our SW..but that is a warm look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 The euro ensembles get a trough into the PAC NW which then rips the heat dome to the east. There are signs of troughing in the northeast which may cause some moderation with the heat in the form of fronts to our SW..but that is a warm look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Somehow I think we will get a pretty typical early July heat swarm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Looks like another night that will wind up in the 40s here. Just an awesome stretch of weather! The thought of 90s in July is shocking (sarcasm)...I don't understand what the big deal is. It'll probably wind up just being a period or warmth but we'll find out soon enough. Within 30-40 days most places will reach their climatological peak so getting weather 10-15 degrees above normal only balances out the 10-15 degree below normal that we've had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Just got back from misquamicut and im red as can be and hurting lol perfect beach weather, 80s on the shore, ssw winds, surfs up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Somehow I think we will get a pretty typical early July heat swarm Making it to July 1st w/o a heat wave makes anything that comes after tolerable. I'm not a high heat lover but it's tolerable in July and August because you expect it. Hell, even as a die hard cold weather guy I appreciate a blast furnace now and then. Feels good if you don't have to work hard in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Who said the heat is a big deal? Just looks like we'll get into a potential warm to hot pattern to start July. How warm remains up in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Who said the heat is a big deal? Just looks like we'll get into a potential warm to hot pattern to start July. How warm remains up in the air.No one is saying thatWhat is the latest 90F date for Boston? I bet a lot of 90s happen that first week of July Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 No one is saying that What is the latest 90F date for Boston? I bet a lot of 90s happen that first week of July I guess I missed MetHerb's sarcasm. August 6 1906 was the latest date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Chilly day up at home...what a cool shot. Temps struggling in the upper 50s to low 60s east of he Green Mtn Spine and back across NNH. Champlain Valley warmest in the mid/upper 60s. image.jpg Man--that's impressive. And I thought my 70.2 was cool...... I know heat kills. Worst American wx disasters have been heat related. Every city (today, not in the past) sets up cooling stations in big heat events. If you are unwilling to avail yourself of these, I don't know what to say. Mostly elderly perish in these, and poor, but what else can be done? Meh. I have this knack of remembering bad movies. I remember this one that was probably on ABC's (?) "Friday Night at the Movies" in 1974. Just horrible. They have the entire thing on youtube. Tells you how in demand it is. lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awQc_wZN0nY Got down to 47.9 at 2:40a.m. Already up to 57.4/49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Don't get no better than this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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