Superstorm93 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Regarding the high risk mention by DMX, maybe someone can chime in on whether this is perception or reality but I'm having trouble recalling SPC going high risk for a warm frontal tornado outbreak. It seems like practically all of the high risks I can recall had the high risk area deeper in the warm sector. http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/archive/event.php?date=20130612 http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/archive/event.php?date=20120414 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Regarding the high risk mention by DMX, maybe someone can chime in on whether this is perception or reality but I'm having trouble recalling SPC going high risk for a warm frontal tornado outbreak. It seems like practically all of the high risks I can recall had the high risk area deeper in the warm sector. 4/14/12 had a separate HIGH for the warm front on the second day 2 and first day 1 I believe until they lumped it all together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/archive/event.php?date=20130612 That high risk was for wind. I'm talking about something for tornadoes and tied only to the warm front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbente Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I don't think we should really worry about a High Risk designation as of yet. Models are trending towards a more significant severe event, but that doesn't mean that the parameters really support a High Risk over a large enough area to really consider it a "major severe weather outbreak" and rather have it be a more localized, volatile environment. --> see May 31, 2013 's 2000z outlook from the SPC. They don't mention "violent tornadoes" in moderate risks that often, and had it been a larger area I would have been certain they go High Risk. http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/archive/2013/day1otlk_20130531_2000.html "CELLS THAT FORM OVER SWRN OR W CNTRL OK WILL MOVE E WITH A VERY HIGHTHREAT OF GIANT HAIL AND A FEW STRONG TO VIOLENT TORNADOES." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 4/14/12 had a separate HIGH for the warm front on the second day 2 and first day 1 I believe until they lumped it all together Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 At this point I'm favoring the warm front, or an area near it. (SE. NE/IA/NW. MO/NE. KS) Obviously a morning MCS could be an issue, but that could also leave an OFB hanging around...which would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackH Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I don't think we should really worry about a High Risk designation as of yet. Models are trending towards a more significant severe event, but that doesn't mean that the parameters really support a High Risk over a large enough area to really consider it a "major severe weather outbreak" and rather have it be a more localized, volatile environment. --> see May 31, 2013 's 2000z outlook from the SPC. They don't mention "violent tornadoes" in moderate risks that often, and had it been a larger area I would have been certain they go High Risk. http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/archive/2013/day1otlk_20130531_2000.html "CELLS THAT FORM OVER SWRN OR W CNTRL OK WILL MOVE E WITH A VERY HIGH THREAT OF GIANT HAIL AND A FEW STRONG TO VIOLENT TORNADOES." I don't really think any of us are speculating that point. We are just addressing the fact that a WFO in the threat area mentioned it. That's not something you see from a local office 3 days out often, so I think it was worth discussing simply for its unique nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Superstorm93 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 4Km NAM goes ballistic FWIW: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coreyback Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Here's a warm front situation which resulted in a high risk: http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/archive/event.php?date=20040522 Though it was only issued for the final 1z update, when numerous tornadic storms were underway. Partial credit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadotony Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I don't know about this one. I think the potential is pretty high, but there are a lot of issues to sort out. First off, when and to what extent is OK going to initiate? The environment is pretty ehh before 00z down there, but as Chi Storm posted earlier, the low-level environment goes off the charts. Emphasis on low-level. I'm not impressed at all with the anvil level flow. Of course, devil's advocate could say that we only had 35-45 kt of flow at 250 hPa here with a bajillion tornadoes on 4/28, and that's true. But we also had much stronger flow just above 250 hPa (~100 kt at EL) to offset that. If you get one supercell in OK between 00z and 06z, I could easily see it being a cyclic tornadic beast. But there are a lot of ifs there. As for the northern target, the parameter space is just incredible. No two ways to slice it. But will it be realized, or will remnant activity or an early messy mode screw it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwxguy Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 SPC AC 100543DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1243 AM CDT SAT MAY 10 2014 VALID 111200Z - 121200Z ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM THE UPPER MS VALLEY TO THE SRN PLAINS... ...SUMMARY... AT LEAST SCATTERED SEVERE STORMS APPEAR PROBABLE BEGINNING SUNDAY AFTERNOON FROM IOWA TO WESTERN OKLAHOMA. SEVERE TO VERY LARGE HAIL...DAMAGING WINDS...AND TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE. ...SYNOPSIS... A VIGOROUS SHORTWAVE IMPULSE EMBEDDED WITHIN AN AMPLIFIED UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH WILL TRACK FROM THE SRN GREAT BASIN TO THE SRN ROCKIES. ATTENDANT MID-LEVEL SPEED MAX WILL BECOME CENTERED FROM THE SRN HIGH PLAINS TO THE CNTRL PLAINS EARLY MON. AT THE SURFACE...A CYCLONE WILL DIURNALLY DEEPEN IN THE LEE OF THE SRN ROCKIES WITH A DRYLINE MIXING TOWARDS THE ERN TX PANHANDLE/WRN OK BORDER S/SWWD ACROSS THE PERMIAN BASIN. GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO DIFFER ON THE ACCELERATION OF A S/SEWD-PROGRESSING COLD FRONT OVER THE CNTRL/SRN PLAINS. MODEST CYCLOGENESIS SHOULD OCCUR ALONG A PORTION OF THIS FRONT FROM THE CNTRL PLAINS TO UPPER MIDWEST ON SUN NIGHT. ....UPPER MS VALLEY TO CNTRL PLAINS... CONSIDERED A MODERATE RISK FOR PORTIONS OF KS TO IA WHERE SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS STORMS ARE EXPECTED WITHIN A STRONG COMBINATION OF INSTABILITY/SHEAR. BUT UNCERTAINTIES WITH REGARD TO FRONTAL PLACEMENT...DEEP-LAYER FLOW GENERALLY PARALLELING THE FRONT AND EFFECTS OF EARLY-DAY CONVECTION PRECLUDE AN UPGRADE THIS OUTLOOK. STRENGTHENING SWLYS AT 700 MB WILL RESULT IN AN EXPANDING EML PLUME AND ATTENDANT CAPPING INVERSION EARLY SUN...WITH INCREASINGLY RICH BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE AMIDST POLEWARD ADVECTION FROM THE WRN GULF. MIDDLE TO UPPER 60S SURFACE DEW POINTS SHOULD BECOME ESTABLISHED FROM AT LEAST THE LOWER MO VALLEY SWD...YIELDING A BROAD STRONGLY UNSTABLE AIR MASS WITH MLCAPE REACHING 2500-3500 J/KG IN THE AFTERNOON AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT AND DRYLINE. LOW-LEVEL WAA ON THE LEADING EDGE OF THE RICHER MOISTURE RETURN/CAPPING INVERSION SHOULD AID IN REGENERATIVE CLUSTERS OF ELEVATED STORMS SUN MORNING INTO AFTERNOON FROM PARTS OF THE LOWER MO TO UPPER MS VALLEY. HOW EXACTLY THIS CONVECTION WILL PLAY OUT IS UNCLEAR...BUT THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR AN EFFECTIVE WARM FRONT/OUTFLOW BOUNDARY TO BECOME ESTABLISHED FROM PARTS OF IA TO IL. SHOULD THIS OCCUR...HODOGRAPHS DURING LATE AFTERNOON AND EVENING ALONG THIS W/E-ORIENTED BOUNDARY WOULD BECOME QUITE FAVORABLE FOR SUPERCELLS AS THE LLJ STRENGTHENS. THIS SUGGESTS A RISK FOR STRONG TORNADOES MAY DEVELOP IN IA. THE ECMWF/UKMET REMAIN CONSISTENTLY SLOWER WITH COLD FRONT PROGRESSION COMPARED TO THE NAM/GFS IN NEB/KS. EVEN SO...STRONG CONVERGENCE ALONG THIS FRONT WILL YIELD INCREASINGLY NUMEROUS STORMS LATE AFTERNOON INTO EVENING. LARGE HAIL /SOME SIGNIFICANT/ AND A FEW TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE INITIALLY. THE POTENTIAL FOR UNDERCUTTING BY THE FRONT APPEARS MORE LIKELY IN KS WITH WEAK CYCLOGENESIS EXPECTED TO OCCUR TOWARDS THE MO VALLEY. WITH MID-LEVEL WINDS GENERALLY PARALLELING THE FRONT...CLUSTER/LINEAR MODES SHOULD BECOME DOMINANT AS CONVECTION SHOULD TEND TO ZIPPER S/SWWD ALONG THE FRONT. SEVERE HAIL/WIND HAZARDS SHOULD PERSIST INTO SUN NIGHT. ...SRN PLAINS... INTENSE SURFACE HEATING ALONG WITH STRENGTHENING CONVERGENCE NEAR THE LEE CYCLONE/DRYLINE INTERSECTION SHOULD YIELD ISOLATED STORMS DEVELOPING LATE AFTERNOON. ALTHOUGH HODOGRAPHS SHOULD NOT BE OVERLY LARGE INITIALLY...CROSS-BOUNDARY DEEP-LAYER FLOW WILL BE FAVORABLE FOR DISCRETE SUPERCELLS GIVEN STRONG INSTABILITY. VERY LARGE HAIL WILL LIKELY BE THE PRIMARY INITIAL HAZARD WITH CONVECTION PROBABLY FORMING AMIDST MODERATELY LARGE SURFACE TEMPERATURE/DEW POINT SPREADS. SPREADS WILL LOWER DURING THE EARLY EVENING AS A SLY LLJ STRENGTHENS...LIKELY MAXIMIZING POTENTIAL FOR A COUPLE TORNADOES DURING THIS TIME FRAME INVOF WRN OK. GREATER CONVECTIVE COVERAGE SHOULD OCCUR SUN NIGHT AS THE FRONT IMPINGES ON THE STILL STRONGLY BUOYANT AIR MASS...WITH ATTENDANT SEVERE HAIL/WIND HAZARDS. ..GRAMS.. 05/10/2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 As for the northern target, the parameter space is just incredible. No two ways to slice it. But will it be realized, or will remnant activity or an early messy mode screw it up? I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned about that, considering how much leftover/junk convection has caused problems this year, especially 4/3/14. That said, I still like the triple point area a lot since the heaviest convection ongoing tomorrow evening at least should be east of that region, so while it might cause problems for the IA and N MO threat, it might be more clear towards the frontal/dryline intersection, i.e. southeast NE and northeast KS. And that's a pretty ugly looking string of monsters on the 4 km NAM, to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Latest from WFOs across the threat area. DMX: TONIGHT INTO MONDAY...500MB TROUGH DIGS INTO THE WESTERN U.S.TONIGHT AND ALLOWS FOR SOUTHWEST FLOW TO DEVELOP ACROSS THE STATEINTO SUNDAY. FIRST SHORTWAVE LOOKS TO TRACK NORTH-NORTHEAST THISEVENING AND PRECIP LOOKS TO QUICKLY DISSIPATE OR BE CONFINED TO THEFAR NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA BY 06Z SUNDAY. STRONGSURGE OF THETA-E ADVECTION AND MOISTURE TRANSPORT PUNCHES INTOSOUTHERN IOWA OVERNIGHT TONIGHT INTO EARLY SUNDAY MORNING ANDCONTINUES TO QUICKLY PUSH NORTHWARD BY THROUGH MIDDAY OR EARLYAFTERNOON SUNDAY. THE 10.00Z 4KM NSSL WRF REMAINS DRY THROUGH 12ZSUNDAY ACROSS THE STATE...AND IF THIS SCENARIO PLAYS OUT...THENCENTRAL TO SOUTHERN IOWA LOOKS TO MORE UNDER THE GUN FOR SEVEREWEATHER BY THE AFTERNOON AS LACK OF RAIN COOLED AIR/CLOUD COVERSHOULD ONLY EXACERBATE THE INSTABILITY. THE 06Z MODEL RUNS AREHINTING ON THIS DRIER SCENARIO TONIGHT AS WELL AS BOTH THEGFS/NAM HAVE TREMENDOUS INSTABILITY ACROSS SOUTHERN IOWA BY THEAFTERNOON. THE SURFACE LOW LOOKS TO TRACK ALONG THE MISSOURI/IOWABORDER TOMORROW AFTERNOON AND WITH THE WARM FRONT ORIENTINGITSELF WEST-TO-EAST ACROSS THE STATE...ALONG WITH THE IMPRESSIVEHODOGRAPHS AND LOW LEVEL SHEAR...ALL POINT TO A FAVORABLEENVIRONMENT FOR SUPERCELLS AND TORNADIC DEVELOPMENT SUNDAYAFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING. WITH THIS SET UP...CONFIDENT ENOUGH TOMENTION SEVERE WORDING DURING SUNDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING. OAX: FOCUS THEN SHIFTS TO A POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT SEVERE WEATHEREPISODE FOR THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING. MODELS ARE SUGGESTING THATTHE STALLED FRONT WILL LIFT NORTHWARD AS A WARM FRONT...PERHAPSLIFTING AS FAR NORTH TO A KJYR TO KSUX LINE. TO THE NORTH OF THEFRONT...SHOWERS AND COOLER TEMPS WILL EXIST. TO THE SOUTH...ITCOULD SIGNIFICANTLY WARM INTO THE UPPER 70S/LOWER 80S...WITHDEWPOINTS CLIMBING INTO THE MID/UPPER 60S. CONVECTION IS EXPECTEDTO FIRE ALONG THE BOUNDARY BY MID/LATE AFTERNOON AS DISCRETE CELLS...THEN ROLL EAST THROUGH THE EVENING TRANSITIONING TO A SQUALL LINE.SPC HAS THE AREA IN A SLIGHT RISK WITH HATCHED 30 PERCENT SEVEREPROBABILITIES ALONG/SOUTH OF THE BOUNDARY. SHEAR PROFILES ARESUFFICIENT FOR SUPERCELLS WITH 50-60 KNOTS OF BULK SHEAR. BELIEVETHERE ALSO IS A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY FOR TORNADOES FOR STORMSTHAT DEVELOP ALONG THE WARM FRONT...WHICH COULD ALSO INTERACT WITHANY CONVECTIVE BOUNDARIES FROM EARLIER IN THE DAY. SPC INDICATED ITHEIR DISCUSSION THAT THE AREA WILL CONTINUE TO BE MONITORED FORAN UPGRADE TO A MODERATE RISK ON LATER OUTLOOKS. TOP: Convergence on nose of low level jet and elevated mixed layer pushnortheast Sunday morning for diminishing chances of convection aftersunrise. Deep and strong south to southwest low level flow rule thebulk of the day until cold front approaches and reaches northcentral Kansas late in the afternoon. Could see stratus deck holdfor much of the day in the eastern Kansas, but good agreement withthermal ridge building NNE into central portions of the state andbumped up temps here. With higher confidence in the late morning toearly afternoon being dry, pre-frontal airmass CAPE should reachwell into moderate to extreme levels, but even if a modest surfacelow traverses the front northeast across the state, the mixed andquite strong (perhaps near Advisory) winds will be difficult to backmuch, and along with the warmer temps raising LCLs, severe weathershould be limited to hail and wind. Initial area of concern willbe north central Kansas in the late afternoon and early evening,but will spread south and east through the night with boundarylayer only slowly cooling/stabilizing with low level jet returningto 50-60kt ahead of the front. EAX: Going into Sunday the threat for severe weather will continue as thewarm front continues its trek northward, keeping a steady flow ofgood warm/moist air into the forecast area. With the entire forecastarea likely locked deep in the warm sector for Sunday it appearsthat a majority of the CWA will escape any diurnally driven deepconvection. However portions of the western and northern CWA mayindeed be susceptible to the high-impact severe weather for Sundayafternoon. The surface trough responsible for the warm air advectionlooks to elongate and perhaps become two different lows, one in NEKansas or SE Nebraska, and one in the TX panhandle. The TX panhandleportion will likely not affect the forecast area, but the northernportion of the dual low will cause a localized backing of surfaceand low level winds across NW/NC Missouri into SE Nebraska, NEKansas, and southern/central Iowa. This area, along the IA/MO/NEborder could be most at risk for severe weather, perhaps as farsouth as Interstate 70, however given the lack of any forecast-ableboundary along Interstate 70 it appears at this point thathigh-impact severe weather that far south is unlikely. UnlikeSaturday low level winds will be a quite a bit stronger, which willlend to more elongated turning hodographs, especially in farnorthern Missouri, where the winds are locally backed, east andnortheast of the surface low. Convective parameters look to be a bithigher/stronger on Sunday than Saturday, which will keep all of thesame modes and hazards of severe weather on the table. SB CAPE northof Highway 36 looks to reach the 3000-3500 J/kg range, with deeplayer shear vectors out of the west/southwest around 50 to 60 kts.The low level turning will cause 0-1 SRH values in N Missouri toreach the 150 to 250 m2/s2 range, more than ample for tornadoes toform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackH Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 12z NAM holds firm... WF and triple point looking potentially dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 No kidding. The 12z NAM has about 400 m2/s2 of 3km helicity and perhaps up to 65 kt of effective shear (6km or 7km shear) near Des Moines tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 SWODY2 upgraded to MDT, mentions "many tornadoes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natester Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 SWODY2 upgraded to MDT, mentions "many tornadoes" That wording really worries me. When was the last time a MAJOR tornado outbreak occurred in Iowa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 SWODY2 upgraded to MDT, mentions "many tornadoes" Decent sized MDT all the way to Wichita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 That wording really worries me. When was the last time a MAJOR tornado outbreak occurred in Iowa? Well, that would obviously depend on how you define major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natester Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Well, that would obviously depend on how you define major. Major, as in numerous F3/EF3 or stronger tornadoes in one day in Iowa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Impressive. ...SUMMARY...SEVERE WEATHER OUTBREAK WITH MANY TORNADOES AND VERY LARGE HAILPOSSIBLE SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT ACROSS PARTS OF THE CENTRAL PLAINSAND MID MISSOURI VALLEY. SEVERE STORMS WILL ALSO BE LIKELY IN THESOUTHERN PLAINS....MID-MO VALLEY/CNTRL PLAINS...AN UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH WILL MOVE ACROSS THE FOUR CORNERS REGIONSUNDAY AS DIFFLUENT SOUTHWEST MID-LEVEL FLOW REMAINS IN PLACE ACROSSTHE CNTRL STATES. AT THE SFC...A COLD FRONT WILL ADVANCE SEWD ACROSSTHE CNTRL PLAINS AS A WARM FRONT MOVES NWD ACROSS THE MID MO VALLEY.A CLUSTER OF THUNDERSTORMS MAY BE ONGOING IN THE MID MO VALLEYSUNDAY MORNING ON THE NOSE OF THE LOW-LEVEL JET. HOWEVER...MOST OFTHE WARM SECTOR SHOULD REMAIN UNDISTURBED THROUGH EARLY SUNDAYAFTERNOON AS MODERATE TO STRONG INSTABILITY DEVELOPS. BY LATEAFTERNOON...NUMEROUS THUNDERSTORMS SHOULD INITIATE ALONG THE WARMFRONT FROM IA EXTENDING SWWD ALONG THE COLD FRONT INTO SE NEB ANDCNTRL KS. DUE TO THE VERY UNSTABLE AIRMASS...STRONG DEEP LAYER SHEARAND IMPRESSIVE LOW-LEVEL SHEAR...AN OUTBREAK OF SEVERE STORMS WITHMANY TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE REGION SUNDAY AND SUNDAYNIGHT.FORECAST SOUNDINGS FOR 00Z/MON ACROSS THE MODERATE RISK AREA FROMDES MOINES IA SWWD TO TOPEKA KS SHOW IMPRESSIVE SHEAR PROFILESCOUPLED WITH STRONG INSTABILITY. THE NAM IS FORECASTING MLCAPE INTHE 2000 TO 3000 J/KG RANGE WITH 0-6 KM SHEAR OF 40 TO 50 KT. INADDITION...LONG LOOPED HODOGRAPHS RESULT IN 0-3 KM STORM RELATIVEHELICITIES OF 350 TO 500 M2/S2 SUGGESTING THE ENVIRONMENT WILL BEFAVORABLE FOR SUPERCELLS AND TORNADOES. SEVERAL STRONG OR LONG-TRACKTORNADOES APPEAR POSSIBLE ACROSS THE REGION AS THE LOW-LEVEL JETRAPIDLY BECOMES FOCUSED LATE SUNDAY AFTERNOON INTO SUNDAY EVENING.SUPERCELLS SHOULD BE ACCOMPANIED WITH LARGE HAIL AND WIND DAMAGE.HAILSTONES GREATER THAN 2 INCHES IN DIAMETER WILL BE POSSIBLE WITHTHE MORE DOMINANT SUPERCELLS.UNCERTAINTIES STILL EXIST CONCERNING HOW THE EVENT WILL UNFOLDSUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT WITH THE MAIN CONCERN BEING STORM MODE. THEIMPRESSIVE SHEAR ENVIRONMENT SHOULD PROMOTE STRONG ROTATION WITHSUPERCELLS BUT THE STORMS IN THE CNTRL PLAINS MAY EVENTUALLY MERGEINTO LINES ALONG THE COLD FRONT WHERE LOW-LEVEL LINEAR FORCING WILLBE MAXIMIZED. FURTHER TO THE NORTHEAST ALONG THE WARM FRONT INIA...SUPERCELLS SHOULD HAVE AN EASIER TIME REMAINING DISCRETE. THENAM FORECAST SOUNDINGS SHOW THE MOST FAVORABLE HODOGRAPH FOR STRONGTORNADOES AT DES MOINES IA AT 00Z/MON SUGGESTING THE WARM FRONT MAYHAVE THE GREATEST TORNADO POTENTIAL. AS THE LOW-LEVEL JETCONSOLIDATES DURING THE EARLY TO MID EVENING...THE GREATEST TORNADOTHREAT MAY DEVELOP SWWD AS THE LOW-LEVEL JET CONSOLIDATES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Major, as in numerous F3/EF3 or stronger tornadoes in one day in Iowa. 4/9/11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Major, as in numerous F3/EF3 or stronger tornadoes in one day in Iowa. April 8, 1999 had 16 tornadoes with 2 F4 and 2 F3. More recently, April 9, 2011 had 20 tornadoes with 1 F4 and 3 F3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natester Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 4/9/11? Well, I guess that can count. All it takes in one supercell. I really hope no towns gets hit by any tornado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ground Scouring Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 4/9/11? 05/09/1918 had eight F3+ tornadoes, four of which occurred in IA. 05/21/1918 had 10 F3+ events in IA. Still, I wouldn't compare this event to the really high-end ones in IA, though I think the MDT Risk is appropriate for hail at least. I am still a little skeptical re: the tornado threat in IA, partly due to the rather limited area for multiple tornadoes, but the chance of a substantial outbreak is rising as model confidence increases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 4km NAM is just absolutely ridiculous for the Des Moines area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo762 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Looks like we could have a potentially widespread tornado outbreak on our hands for tomorrow. The northern threat is more of a given it seems... Southern part depends on storm mode, if storms remain discrete supercells an evident big time tornado threat would develop esp. after 00z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Disc Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 12z NAM for KDMX: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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