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0Z Guidance Discussion 12/20/2010


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132 hrs 0z euro shwows the 2 s/w has Phase d NEUTRAL over the Ohio valley

500 clsoed low over southeastern ILL

surface Low over AL

temps are colder over MD and VA

ZERO LINE DOWN TO CHAROLOTE NC

ric is -5c

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150 hrs feet of snow ric

At 150 hours the 0z European model has a 996 low over Elizabeth City North Carolina. The half inch precipitation band is up to the Pennsylvania Maryland border and covers all Virginia out tool Roanoke Lynchburg. The precipitation is change over snow Northwest North Carolina.

Richmond is -4 at 850 ORF is get this +4c and in between is Williamsburg or Newport News at zero

Must chnage under garments

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Per the philly thread about the Euro discussion (yeah, don't ask me), the Euro destroys?

Yes man. Major snowstorm and a better setup overall. If this is legit, this is worthy of being the Heather A. signal...

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156 hours the EURO look identical in its surface depiction of the map very similar to the 0z Canadian which just came out. It has in 1988 low 50 to 100 miles east of Salisbury Maryland or perhaps southeast of cape may

All of the I 95 cities are below 0 at 850 and there's a heavy snowstorm going on Sunday morning December 26 from Northern Virginia all the way into NYC long island and Southern Connecticut

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DT, doesnt 156h remind you of how the ECMWF looked with 1996 at one point with the extreme west pull toward the coast? :devilsmiley:

as Jayson werth said to Cliff Lee

HOLY Fook!

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The surface low is in the 970's and winds up tucked in just Southeast of Cape May, then South of Long Island, and then towards the CC Canal. Although unlikely, this solution is a testament to the potential we have here if the timing of the phase is correct.

It should be noted that this Euro is also the first model I have seen track the surface low so far south that it runs along the Gulf Coast.

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This storm won't have the Pacific connection last year's storms had, so it will have to produce high snowfall amounts dynamically and with the deep Arctic air in place. It would be a very powdery, cold storm with a lot of blowing/drifting.

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The surface low is in the 970's and winds up tucked in just Southeast of Cape May, then South of Long Island, and then towards the CC Canal. Although unlikely, this solution is a testament to the potential we have here if the timing of the phase is correct.

It should be noted that this Euro is also the first model I have seen track the surface low so far south that it runs along the Gulf Coast.

Ya this is really a completely different evolution than any of the GFs runs were showing. Truly a classic monster being shown.

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The surface low is in the 970's and winds up tucked in just Southeast of Cape May, then South of Long Island, and then towards the CC Canal. Although unlikely, this solution is a testament to the potential we have here if the timing of the phase is correct.

It should be noted that this Euro is also the first model I have seen track the surface low so far south that it runs along the Gulf Coast.

incorrect

0Z ggem at 120 hr has the Low in the EXACT same location as the 0z euro

http://meteocentre.com/models/gemglb_amer_00/GZ_D5_PN_120_0000.gif

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H5 is progressive despite closing off, but man if that slowed a little more....

Yes, if this slowing trend keeps up, it is time to honk man...I don't care what the 3.4 ENSO number is.

I think we all would sacrifice less snow for Christmas to see a monster.

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