andyhb Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 what makes you say that? RFD keeps surging ahead when the storm tries to organize its inflow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Ridiculous RFD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawkers Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 This storm is ridiculously wrapped up.. Beginning to get the classic "bird wings" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawkers Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Doesn't look nearly as impressive attm on the video feeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Denver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvward Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Anschutz Medical Campus at the U. of Colorado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawkers Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Denver definitely appears to be a cone tornado given it's well-defined outlines compared to the rough edges of the rest of the clouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 definitely appears to be a cone tornado given it's well-defined outlines compared to the rough edges of the rest of the clouds. That doesn't mean it's a tornado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Time sensitive and I apologize I don't have very good screen capture capabilities at the moment, but this is a good time to check out the Chill link, an extremely sensitive X band radar in Greeley. http://www.chill.colostate.edu/w/CSU_CHILL# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawkers Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 That doesn't mean it's a tornado. also, given the location of the "tornado" relative to the storm as well as the time that picture was approximately taken. Usually you don't see a cloud structure that well defined that close to the surface, so it's pretty reasonable to say it was likely a tornado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvward Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Midscar Cam: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 also, given the location of the "tornado" relative to the storm as well as the time that picture was approximately taken. Usually you don't see a cloud structure that well defined that close to the surface, so it's pretty reasonable to say it was likely a tornado. You can't see the bottom half of the cloud, it very well could have been a tornado or it could have been a wall cloud and a funnel cloud. The picture doesn't allow you to see the bottom half of the funnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawkers Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 This storm went to garbage in a hurry... All that new convection to the south will only exacerbate that. Perhaps a new supercell will form at some point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawkers Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 You can't see the bottom half of the cloud, it very well could have been a tornado or it could have been a wall cloud and a funnel cloud. The picture doesn't allow you to see the bottom half of the funnel. true... Suppose that's important. But my rationale is that a tornado was reported either when, or slightly after this pic would've been taken. Suppose it could've just been a funnel cloud at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 There is actually a field campaign going on right now in Colorado where the CSU-CHILL and NCAR SPOL are both operating. Some interesting CHILL stuff, including near real-time dual doppler here: http://radarmet.atmos.colostate.edu/front/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluggerWx Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Found the dopplers Sent from my RM-927_nam_vzw_100 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Lots of reports on spotter network of a rain wrapped tornado on the ground with the Denver cell. That's a pretty intense supercell east of Denver... Large hail core, a very evident hook echo, observed rotating wall cloud, would be shocked if it didn't put down a large tornado at some point given how low the wall cloud is as well as pretty strong low-level flow. EDIT: tornado in progress That is a very impressive radar over Denver. Has to be a tornado Doesn't look nearly as impressive attm on the video feeds. definitely appears to be a cone tornado given it's well-defined outlines compared to the rough edges of the rest of the clouds. It was a very messy scuddy base. We were looking at it with the terminal at DIA in the background and it wasn't a tornado from our vantage point. Valpo chasers also didn't see any funnels either. Still on it now though, heading toward Byers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 That elevation for the road makes it hard to see, and maybe the ground has already been soaked, but it while it looks like a tornado, I'd like to see dust/debris. /not an expert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayjawintastawm Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Anschutz Medical Campus at the U. of Colorado You know, that thing was weird. I was watching the storm from the next building over from where this pic was taken, and the wall cloud was definitely rotating, though the white "thing" in the picture was not really rotating. About 5 minutes later I saw a real tornadic circulation pass by, with a reflection on the ground of cyclonic winds around 40 mph, but the cloud base itself was definitely aloft by several hundred feet, not on the ground, and corresponded perfectly in timing and location with what was going on on the radar. So this "thing" was maybe a funnel but maybe not. I think there was a lack of consensus within the cloud about where to concentrate its energy, at least till it got east of Pena Blvd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawkers Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 It was a very messy scuddy base. We were looking at it with the terminal at DIA in the background and it wasn't a tornado from our vantage point. Valpo chasers also didn't see any funnels either. Still on it now though, heading toward Byers. thank you for the confirmation... Tornado must've been reported well after that picture then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 May have seen a brief tor under low wall cloud but hard to say for sure. HPish early. May be trying to fix itself now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawkers Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Original supercell has reintensified significantly. Hook redeveloping, and strong rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawkers Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Appears that a similar scenario will develop eventually with RFD surging eastward, undercutting the rotation. Very slow cycle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 First time we've left a storm while it's tornado warned heh. Pretty for a while but meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Crazy hail in the path. Roads washed out in spots http://twitter.com/islivingston/status/469268296672358401/photo/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Crazy hail in the path. Roads washed out in spots http://twitter.com/islivingston/status/469268296672358401/photo/1 Love front range hail events. The day wasn't a total loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Love front range hail events. The day wasn't a total loss.Got plenty of good images. And this may be a tornado. Def was a funnel but wasn't sure it touched. Was under a huge low wall cloud near DIA lasted maybe 20-30 seconds. https://twitter.com/islivingston/status/469284831394689025Fun day for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluggerWx Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Ian, did you go up 36 past Byers? I kept having to retreat S to avoid the hail, no matter how E I tried to get. Everything was so HP, kind of crazy seeing an entire countryside post hail storm from afar. All I saw was white. Sent from my RM-927_nam_vzw_100 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 We came in north of the airport then hung out in the extended bears cage.. Not super close but it was elongated early. Then we took 70 to 36. Never had hail issues chasing but we generally stayed ahead of the storm a few miles. We left during the latter tornado warning as the new convection to the south was meeting it. By then it was clear we wouldn't see anything tho it was kind of clear earlier than that heh. Going back west we noticed the white countryside to the north so we went to check it out. Took a lot of pics north of Byers.. Was still 3-4" deep up there after some melting. Our car them bottomed at 39. Very odd. Guess it happens there but haven't seen anything like that before. Storm was pretty esp early but it seemed too RFD heavy or something. After looking outflowy for a bit it looked great again for like 10 min with a fast rotating wall cloud but then the RFD pushed again and it got all rain wrapped again. Kind of frustrating but better than nothing. The traffic was a joke.. Only a matter of time till a convoy of chasers gets taken out. Not to mention we almost got hit twice by people turning off side roads and not paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawkers Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 We came in north of the airport then hung out in the extended bears cage.. Not super close but it was elongated early. Then we took 70 to 36. Never had hail issues chasing but we generally stayed ahead of the storm a few miles. We left during the latter tornado warning as the new convection to the south was meeting it. By then it was clear we wouldn't see anything tho it was kind of clear earlier than that heh. Going back west we noticed the white countryside to the north so we went to check it out. Took a lot of pics north of Byers.. Was still 3-4" deep up there after some melting. Our car them bottomed at 39. Very odd. Guess it happens there but haven't seen anything like that before. Storm was pretty esp early but it seemed too RFD heavy or something. After looking outflowy for a bit it looked great again for like 10 min with a fast rotating wall cloud but then the RFD pushed again and it got all rain wrapped again. Kind of frustrating but better than nothing. The traffic was a joke.. Only a matter of time till a convoy of chasers gets taken out. Not to mention we almost got hit twice by people turning off side roads and not paying attention. I blame that on shows like Storm Chasers, and widely publicized chasers like Reed Timmer. Albeit, it was a fantastic show, and Reed is a pretty good guy too. But it just causes everybody to think that they're "Jesus" and can go out and do whatever they want. Agree very much... Eventually a ton of quasi-chasers are going to be killed by some monster tornado (like El Reno.) Think that is what it will take to get them to stop... Possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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