Damage In Tolland Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 It's mostly from a spruce with shade and acid so probably right. I hear people telling me calcium is better than lime.Pelletized lime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Pelletized lime Yeah I know, but people say calcium is faster reacting. I don't know if it's true or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Anybody ever hear of that Johnathan Green product? I've heard some people say it's a lot better than Scotts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 Anybody ever hear of that Johnathan Green product? I've heard some people say it's a lot better than Scotts.Meh to both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Meh to bothSo it's only John Deere that cells the good stuff? So lime first and then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewbeer Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 It's mostly from a spruce ... Cut 'er down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Hasenpfeffer, good stuff! .22 ruger mark 3 works well also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 So it's only John Deere that cells the good stuff? So lime first and then what? Straight fert for early green up and then Dimension/ crabgrass preventer. But don't seed if you are putting that down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Straight fert for early green up and then Dimension/ crabgrass preventer. But don't seed if you are putting that down I want to seed some spots so I'll avoid the crab grass preventer in those areas. That's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Cut 'er down. Well it's a big tree and it offers some nice privacy too. I trimmed it back some last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 let the crabgrass live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Anybody ever hear of that Johnathan Green product? I've heard some people say it's a lot better than Scotts. Yup. I use their stuff. Love the Mag-I-Cal product. Skip Scott's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Yup. I use their stuff. Love the Mag-I-Cal product. Skip Scott's. Yeah that's what I saw. So, that worked well? I was thinking of using that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Yeah that's what I saw. So, that worked well? I was thinking of using that. Yes, I've had good results using it over the past 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 lawn fertilizer plays a big role: http://www2.epa.gov/nutrientpollution/problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 ^^ I just don't bother. Whatever grows is good and the less time and effort I have to put into maintenance is time well spent. I'm also near the top of a hill in a watershed with a creek 100 feet below me so I'm supposed to have whatever fert. I would use cleared with the "authorities" and my preference is to keep them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 lawn fertilizer plays a big role: http://www2.epa.gov/nutrientpollution/problem They banned phosphate in fertilizer I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 ^^^ lol. Anyway, thanks for all the advice guys. We are going to see how it goes with all the open space in the yard now that a bunch of trees have been cut down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&P Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I want to seed some spots so I'll avoid the crab grass preventer in those areas. That's ok. Straight fert for early green up and then Dimension/ crabgrass preventer. But don't seed if you are putting that down i overheard the john deere guys talking to a contractor - lesco makes a dimension product that you can seed with. its a lot more expensive $100/bag and he recommended two appliations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Do I need to wait to put down fertilizer after I lime, or can I do it the same day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&P Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Do I need to wait to put down fertilizer after I lime, or can I do it the same day? i was told you can do both at the same time - the only issue is that if the ph is low you will not get the full effect of the fertilzer for example if your ph is around 3-4 the fert is only 50% effective , don't quote me on the %'s but you get the idea. this is what the deere landscape guys are saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 Do I need to wait to put down fertilizer after I lime, or can I do it the same day?Can do same day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 They banned phosphate in fertilizer I believe. Massachusetts has a law limiting the amount of phosphorus in fertilizer. It's not a ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whineminster Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Besides, nitrogen is the culprit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Shore Slop Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Massachusetts has a law limiting the amount of phosphorus in fertilizer. It's not a ban. Not really. I use 10-10-10 in the garden. The second number in a fertilizer rating is the percent of phosphorous.... All fertilizer labels have three bold numbers. The first number is the amount of nitrogen (N), the second number is the amount of phosphate (P2O5) and the third number is the amount of potash (K2O). These three numbers represent the primary nutrients (nitrogen(N) - phosphorus(P) - potassium(K)). This label, known as the fertilizer grade, is a national standard. A bag of 10-10-10 fertilizer contains 10 percent nitrogen, 10 percent phosphate and 10 percent potash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Not really. I use 10-10-10 in the garden. The second number in a fertilizer rating is the percent of phosphorous.... All fertilizer labels have three bold numbers. The first number is the amount of nitrogen (N), the second number is the amount of phosphate (P2O5) and the third number is the amount of potash (K2O). These three numbers represent the primary nutrients (nitrogen(N) - phosphorus(P) - potassium(K)). This label, known as the fertilizer grade, is a national standard. A bag of 10-10-10 fertilizer contains 10 percent nitrogen, 10 percent phosphate and 10 percent potash. Yeah you are right....I totally forgot about that stuff. It's a good product for the garden etc. Well more raking today. Hopefully at least get lime or calcium down before the rain Friday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Not really. I use 10-10-10 in the garden. The second number in a fertilizer rating is the percent of phosphorous.... All fertilizer labels have three bold numbers. The first number is the amount of nitrogen (N), the second number is the amount of phosphate (P2O5) and the third number is the amount of potash (K2O). These three numbers represent the primary nutrients (nitrogen(N) - phosphorus(P) - potassium(K)). This label, known as the fertilizer grade, is a national standard. A bag of 10-10-10 fertilizer contains 10 percent nitrogen, 10 percent phosphate and 10 percent potash. Follow the trail. Signed into law over 18 months ago. https://malegislature.gov/Bills/187/House/H3270/History https://malegislature.gov/Bills/187/House/H4306/History https://malegislature.gov/Laws/SessionLaws/Acts/2012/Chapter262 SECTION 6. Said section 64 of said chapter 128, as so appearing, is hereby further amended by inserting after the definition of “Phosphoric acid” the following definition:- “Phosphorus containing fertilizer”, fertilizer labeled for use on lawn or non-agricultural turf in which the available phosphate content is greater than 0.67 per cent by weight, excluding organic compost and natural organic fertilizer. SECTION 7. Said chapter 128 is hereby further amended by inserting after section 65 the following section:- Section 65A. (a) No person shall purchase and apply or authorize any person, by way of service contract or other arrangement, to apply in the commonwealth any phosphorus containing fertilizer on lawn or non-agricultural turf, except when: (1) a soil test indicates that additional phosphorus is needed for growth of that lawn or non-agricultural turf; or (2) the phosphorus fertilizer is confirmed to be used for establishing a new lawn or new non-agricultural turf area. ( The department shall promulgate regulations to implement subsection (a) and may, consistent with subsection (a) and in consultation with the department of environmental protection, develop additional regulations designed to limit non-point source pollution from plant nutrients including, but not limited to, phosphorous and nitrogen. Such regulations may require retailers of phosphorus containing fertilizer to display such fertilizers separately and post signs specifying when and where phosphorus containing fertilizer may be applied. © Regulations promulgated under this section shall be designed to maximize credits provided to municipalities by the United States Environmental Protection Agency relative to stormwater discharge and similar permits, which the Environmental Protection Agency may require of municipalities. (d) Violations of any regulations promulgated under this section shall be subject to the penalties set forth in subsection (k) of section 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Nitrates are the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 ^^ I just don't bother. Whatever grows is good and the less time and effort I have to put into maintenance is time well spent. I'm also near the top of a hill in a watershed with a creek 100 feet below me so I'm supposed to have whatever fert. I would use cleared with the "authorities" and my preference is to keep them away. This, To much work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 It's not that much work really. Kevin is probably the extreme, but I'm also not going to let my yard look like something you'd see in the Ozarks either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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