IsentropicLift Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 This is a message board, not a town or a physical community. People are free to pick up and click onto another website if they don't like the moderation here. Admins are free to be "bullies" if they want. If AmericanWX becomes an echo chamber of just the admins/mods and their clique, that will be their problem. Trust me, I've seen some of the posts from some of those crying foul now over the last few months and can't blame mods for throwing out warnings at all. Some of the threads this winter were just unreadable, and the feuding and carrying on that happens here is beyond tiring to wade through. You're beginning to see a whole group of other weather boards popping up. Some of them quite popular. I doubt that this site will take in the same amount of monetary support next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 This is a message board, not a town or a physical community. People are free to pick up and click onto another website if they don't like the moderation here. Admins are free to be "bullies" if they want. If AmericanWX becomes an echo chamber of just the admins/mods and their clique, that will be their problem. Trust me, I've seen some of the posts from some of those crying foul now over the last few months and can't blame mods for throwing out warnings at all. Some of the threads this winter were just unreadable, and the feuding and carrying on that happens here is beyond tiring to wade through. I think that's part of the problem just because this isn't a physical community doesn't mean how you treat people should be any different. That's kind of a straw man argument that I've seen brought up by way to many people.Everyone posting here is a person. Just because this is an internet forum doesn't mean we have to take the wild wild west mantra. That's aiding to the hostility in here. When folks are belittled by others and provoked and nothing is done, its eventually going to spill over. That's going to happen when someone is continually agitated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Gotta love some people that have been here just a few months trying to tell a community that's been together for the better part of 15 years how it should moderate itself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Gotta love some people that have been here just a few months trying to tell a community that's been together for the better part of 15 years how it should moderate itself... I've been here since one month after the site opened and I was also on Eastern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Gotta love some people that have been here just a few months trying to tell a community that's been together for the better part of 15 years how it should moderate itself... As bob dylan once said, the times they are a changin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I've been here since one month after the site opened and I was also on Eastern. Yea clearly I wasn't referring to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I've been here since one month after the site opened and I was also on Eastern. I too was on eastern, and have been following this board for years but never made an account because i wanted to learn from what others had to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 I think that's part of the problem just because this isn't a physical community doesn't mean how you treat people should be any different. That's kind of a straw man argument that I've seen brought up by way to many people. Everyone posting here is a person. Just because this is an internet forum doesn't mean we have to take the wild wild west mantra. That's aiding to the hostility in here. When folks are belittled by others and provoked and nothing is done, its eventually going to spill over. That's going to happen when someone is continually agitated So you're asking for more moderation? It really works both ways. The heavy moderation some have here is a direct result of their behavior in the past. YanksFan constantly bickered with other members such as Allsnow and Forky and made whiny posts that had to be constantly deleted, Snow88 often went on weenie-sprees, and others such as Ace/Noreaster27 were banned for constant negativity and picking fights. It might be "bias", but moderators have a tendency to place higher scrutiny on posters who have had issues before. I think people also have to read for context and know based on posting history what people really mean behind what they are posting. I know for example that Pazzo would never want someone to kill himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 So you're asking for more moderation? It really works both ways. The heavy moderation some have here is a direct result of their behavior in the past. YanksFan constantly bickered with other members such as Allsnow and Forky and made whiny posts that had to be constantly deleted, Snow88 often went on weenie-sprees, and others such as Ace/Noreaster27 were banned for constant negativity and picking fights. It might be "bias", but moderators have a tendency to place higher scrutiny on posters who have had issues before. I think people also have to read for context and know based on posting history what people really mean behind what they are posting. I know for example that Pazzo would never want someone to kill himself. Not more moderation, just focusing more on where the problem stems from. I agree with the second part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 So you're asking for more moderation? It really works both ways. The heavy moderation some have here is a direct result of their behavior in the past. YanksFan constantly bickered with other members such as Allsnow and Forky and made whiny posts that had to be constantly deleted, Snow88 often went on weenie-sprees, and others such as Ace/Noreaster27 were banned for constant negativity and picking fights. It might be "bias", but moderators have a tendency to place higher scrutiny on posters who have had issues before. I think people also have to read for context and know based on posting history what people really mean behind what they are posting. I know for example that Pazzo would never want someone to kill himself. That might be the biggest load of crap I've ever read. We all know that some posters such as Forky...cough...cough can get away with murder on here and other posters forget to cross their T's and receive a warning. I've donated my last dollar to this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 We are still talking about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 We are still talking about this. I'm disappointed that the low down south is going to cut off too far southwest to give us more rain. How bout that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickman Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 This is a message board, not a town or a physical community. People are free to pick up and click onto another website if they don't like the moderation here. Admins are free to be "bullies" if they want. If AmericanWX becomes an echo chamber of just the admins/mods and their clique, that will be their problem. Trust me, I've seen some of the posts from some of those crying foul now over the last few months and can't blame mods for throwing out warnings at all. Some of the threads this winter were just unreadable, and the feuding and carrying on that happens here is beyond tiring to wade through. This. Gotta love some people that have been here just a few months trying to tell a community that's been together for the better part of 15 years how it should moderate itself... I often pine for the Wright-Weather days (minus the constant board crashes). I think people also have to read for context and know based on posting history what people really mean behind what they are posting. I know for example that Pazzo would never want someone to kill himself. Agree to an extent... I know Pazzo's post wasn't serious, but at the same time, I could see where someone not knowing the context in that instance would see that post as a stand-alone, and have a valid gripe. So, probably not the best wx-side post, obviously, despite the context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 This. I often pine for the Wright-Weather days (minus the constant board crashes). Agree to an extent... I know Pazzo's post wasn't serious, but at the same time, I could see where someone not knowing the context in that instance would see that post as a stand-alone, and have a valid gripe. So, probably not the best wx-side post, obviously, despite the context. Yea, sorry, it was a bit strong, but good ole' William played it perfectly. Had a good chuckle with his response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 They expire after 90 days. And you'll always be welcomed on the other side of the rainbow. I have had the warnings for more than 90 days. I deserved one of them but not the second one. It's alright though. I have a billion of other sites to post on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 pazzo's post was really uncalled for….but shows he is rattled easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Herein lies the problem. What makes you think you can do whatever you please without the consideration of others? That is just being a bully. Calling someone an idiot is your personal opinion, not a fact. Just because you feel someone post something that you don't agree with,or you do not share the same beliefs with does not mean they are an idiot or the content is inappropriate. Herein lies the problem. You take common sense and try to spin it as bullying. Who should be the additional moderators that we need for balance? The people causing the most trouble? The people with the highest post counts regardless of quality? The people who don't like the people that you don't like? The day that is how we define balance will be the beginning of the end for this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momza Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 There should be a zero tolerance policy on name calling and keeping on topic. Other than that , good and bad forecasting opinions will always exist. People who pay attention know who to turn to for solid unbiased information. Good debates should be welcomed always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Herein lies the problem. You take common sense and try to spin it as bullying. Who should be the additional moderators that we need for balance? The people causing the most trouble? The people with the highest post counts regardless of quality? The people who don't like the people that you don't like? The day that is how we define balance will be the beginning of the end for this board. Someone's opinion of someone else isn't common sense. If your stirring the pot with someone and belittling them and the thoughts they have, how is that common sense? Its not. I think that's the real problem. This idea that this kind of behavior is justified. People like all kinds of weather. Just because this board leans heavy with winter weather lovers, shouldn't be a reason to troll everyone. Someone's opinions on weather isn't a reason to troll them or provoke them, which is what happens here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Today makes 2 years that my dad is gone. RIP ( 4/3/60-4/18/12 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Today makes 2 years that my dad is gone. RIP ( 4/3/60-4/18/12 ) Very sorry Anthony. I'm sure it is a difficult anniversary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I really don't think that's it. I just think that people who post a bit of banter in discussion threads, or people who's play by play is a little off isnt the real problem here. I like this forum a lot, and have lurked for several years before joining last year, and have learned a lot. I don't understand why issues can't be discussed, when there are clearly issues that bother a lot of people here I agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Today makes 2 years that my dad is gone. RIP ( 4/3/60-4/18/12 ) Very sorry to hear that man. My condolences to you and your family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I agree with that. It would just be nice if folks could respect others. One view isn't necessarily right and wrong from another. Everyone has something to contribute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 It would just be nice if folks could respect others. One view isn't necessarily right and wrong from another. Everyone has something to contribute Some of the people saying that the loudest are some of the least tolerant people on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 It would just be nice if folks could respect others. One view isn't necessarily right and wrong from another. Everyone has something to contribute you're just placating stupid people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 It would just be nice if folks could respect others. One view isn't necessarily right and wrong from another. Everyone has something to contribute I'm assuming you mean act like this? Where is everyone who said it wasn't going to snow?????? Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Another chilly day particularly near the coast. Low 50s seems like it will be tough to reach with clouds and temps hovering around 43 at midday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Another chilly day particularly near the coast. Low 50s seems like it will be tough to reach with clouds and temps hovering around 43 at midday Hopefully once the winds kick around to the SW, the temps will keep rising through the evening or at least be steady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Hopefully once the winds kick around to the SW, the temps will keep rising through the evening or at least be steady. Yeah and the next 5-6 days look great..normal mid to late April weather for a change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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