weatherwiz Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Trees I think are behind...don't even see many trees with at least buds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 A lot of small close to the ground trees came out today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Trees I think are behind...don't even see many trees with at least buds http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-8137.2011.03803.x/pdf Great research on leaf out dates for sne the average onset of leaf-out in (a) southeastern New England (USA) from Landsat (1984–2002); and ( a portion of the northeastern USA using MODIS (2000–2005). These images demonstrate that leaf-out occurs later at higher elevations, such as the Adirondacks and White Mountains, at higher latitudes. On Cape Cod, Martha’s Vineyard, and Nantucket (islands off the coast of Cape Cod), late leafing-out is generally the result of the moderating influence of the ocean, with particularly late patches occurring as a result of scrub-oak frost pockets. Trees in Boston, New York, and other metropolitan areas leaf-out earlier because of the higher temperatures associated with the urban heat island effect; earlier leaf-out is also seen in warm river valleys. Colors indicate the date on which half of the tree canopy has leafed-out (from day 110 (April 20) to day 165 (June 15)), with earlier onset shown by blue and later onset by orange and red (figure reprinted from Fisher & Mustard, 2007, with the permission of Elsevi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 The trees aren't way behind. Climatologically, a lot happens between now and May 10. Right -- they were in fact early the last 5 years ... even in 2009, but since 2007 we've been averaging early Springs, and it took a toll and started getting foliage lubed up ahead of norms... I remember many a year seeing only half leafed out trees on May 5th, and then fully by the 15th.... Also, folks -- 18z NAM has heavy wet snow for the interior elevations between noon and 6 pm or so... just going by the FRH grid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 The Norwegian maples have those big green buds on them and I think they are maybe 5 days behind? To me, everything caught up quick and I don't see much in the way of behind. Even the oaks have green buds on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Right -- they were in fact early the last 5 years ... even in 2009, but since 2007 we've been averaging early Springs, and it took a toll and started getting foliage lubed up ahead of norms... I remember many a year seeing only half leafed out trees on May 5th, and then fully by the 15th.... Also, folks -- 18z NAM has heavy wet snow for the interior elevations between noon and 6 pm or so... just going by the FRH grid. Yeah exactly, we've had some warm springs as of late fooling people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-8137.2011.03803.x/pdf Great research on leaf out dates for sne the average onset of leaf-out in (a) southeastern New England (USA) from Landsat (1984–2002); and ( a portion of the northeastern USA using MODIS (2000–2005). These images demonstrate that leaf-out occurs later at higher elevations, such as the Adirondacks and White Mountains, at higher latitudes. On Cape Cod, Martha’s Vineyard, and Nantucket (islands off the coast of Cape Cod), late leafing-out is generally the result of the moderating influence of the ocean, with particularly late patches occurring as a result of scrub-oak frost pockets. Trees in Boston, New York, and other metropolitan areas leaf-out earlier because of the higher temperatures associated with the urban heat island effect; earlier leaf-out is also seen in warm river valleys. Colors indicate the date on which half of the tree canopy has leafed-out (from day 110 (April 20) to day 165 (June 15)), with earlier onset shown by blue and later onset by orange and red (figure reprinted from Fisher & Mustard, 2007, with the permission of Elsevi Interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 The Norwegian maples have those big green buds on them and I think they are maybe 5 days behind? To me, everything caught up quick and I don't see much in the way of behind. Even the oaks have green buds on them. Oaks are as bare and naked as your behind here. No buds..just stark nudity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Yeah exactly, we've had some warm springs as of late fooling people. Fool me once shame on me...fool me twice on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Oaks are as bare and naked as your behind here. No buds..just stark nudity If you look close, you'll probably see some of those buds. It's nothing noteworthy yet, but it's starting. I noticed it big time yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 If you look close, you'll probably see some of those buds. It's nothing noteworthy yet, but it's starting. I noticed it big time yesterday. Hills are always 2-3 weeks later than downslope dandy areas in valley and SE areas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 A lot of small close to the ground trees came out today. This. Lots of small trees and bushes coming out nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 If you look close, you'll probably see some of those buds. It's nothing noteworthy yet, but it's starting. I noticed it big time yesterday. I saw one tree with some buds yesterday but they were cute little baby buds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 A lot of small close to the ground trees came out today. Good for them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 It's going to be a relatively slow process, especially with the pattern we are headed into. If we could get a week sustained of upper 60s and lows 70s I think the changes would be night an day. It ain't happening anytime soon though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Hills are always 2-3 weeks later than downslope dandy areas in valley and SE areas Where in Quebec? LOL, not in SNE. Sorry you live in a pit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I'm surprised you snow nuts are cracking your shells over this NAM 24 to 30 hour picture. 800' els should be snowing 'chutes tomorrow afternoon, with cat paws and noodles possible down even lower. The 900mb NAM temperatures are right at 0C, and that is under 0 to -2C at 800, all capped over 2-meters T's in the falling into the 30s with nearly an inch of QPF is real dicey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Where in Quebec? LOL, not in SNE. Sorry you live in a pit. You kind of have it the worst of both worlds..SE and downslope..Ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 I'm surprised you snow nuts are cracking your shells over this NAM 24 to 30 hour picture. 800' els should be snowing 'chutes tomorrow afternoon, with cat paws and noodles possible down even lower. The 900mb NAM temperatures are right at 0C, and that is under 0 to -2C at 800, all capped over 2-meters T's in the falling into the 30s with nearly an inch of QPF is real dicey... Tomorrow afternoon the sun should break out in most areas..Tomorrow night into early Sunday is when it will snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Where in Quebec? LOL, not in SNE. Sorry you live in a pit. I could never live in an area like that. I've been lucky to grow up in an area where everything I need is within walking distance. Hell...right now I live right next to a gas station with a Dunkin donuts, right across the street from a package store, across from two pizza joints and NcDonalds is only a 16 minute walk and I live right on a bus route which takes me to school and I only live a 5 min walk to my moms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I could never live in an area like that. I've been lucky to grow up in an area where everything I need is within walking distance. Hell...right now I live right next to a gas station with a Dunkin donuts, right across the street from a package store, across from two pizza joints and NcDonalds is only a 16 minute walk and I live right on a bus route which takes me to school and I only live a 5 min walk to my moms Wiz, with those choices you won't have to worry all that long...lol Kevin thinks Tolland is akin to Boulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Wiz, with those choices you won't have to worry all that long...lol Kevin thinks Tolland is akin to Boulder. lol! I'm actually beginning a regime soon of much healthier eating...have to do it, especially with the history of heart disease in my family...both sides of my family are plagued with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 You kind of have it the worst of both worlds..SE and downslope..Ouch Hey remind me, how much snow did you get this winter? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I'm surprised you snow nuts are cracking your shells over this NAM 24 to 30 hour picture. 800' els should be snowing 'chutes tomorrow afternoon, with cat paws and noodles possible down even lower. The 900mb NAM temperatures are right at 0C, and that is under 0 to -2C at 800, all capped over 2-meters T's in the falling into the 30s with nearly an inch of QPF is real dicey... Tip, I don't get it either. Living at 1100 feet in Central NH I would think I would see some snow. Nothing much in the Grey Maine discussion. I could see a few inches in the higher elevations in my area. I think this could sneak up on us up here if we get enough QPF to bring down the colder air above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Hey remind me, how much snow did you get this winter? Thanks.How about the 3 before this winter? Lemme know please and thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 How about the 3 before this winter? Lemme know please and thanks 07, 08 too. K, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma blizzard Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I'm surprised you snow nuts are cracking your shells over this NAM 24 to 30 hour picture. 800' els should be snowing 'chutes tomorrow afternoon, with cat paws and noodles possible down even lower. The 900mb NAM temperatures are right at 0C, and that is under 0 to -2C at 800, all capped over 2-meters T's in the falling into the 30s with nearly an inch of QPF is real dicey... Nam is more enthusiastic in terms of low lvl cold than the GFS when comparing the 18z run. Although the GFS does have more lift / precip probably due to minor differences in the track / orientation of the s/w passing through Sat night. Even the Euro looks good for some flakes to fly in the ORH hills / sw NH. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a localized area that receives an inch or two, especially sw NH with elevation. Here are some soundings for BED: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Gfs looks better than Nam . Again this is tomorrow night. No snow falls during the day tomorrow as we are in a lull with drying and sunny breaks http://t.co/nbMS8uuO5n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Euro was a bit too warm in the aftn tomorrow. It has a weenie pocket of 925 temps just below 0C as well as 850 temps just below over ern areas where precip was heaviest. Probably argues for catpaws and maybe some parachutes in the higher elevations in the ORH hills areas. It's tomorrow night as the second s/w move through and precip blossoms that we have a greater risk of some snow. That's a decent burst as modeled and you are going to need quite the lift and dynamics if you want some paste. I think the euro would do it. GFS too, but they differ where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-8137.2011.03803.x/pdf Great research on leaf out dates for sne the average onset of leaf-out in (a) southeastern New England (USA) from Landsat (1984–2002); and ( a portion of the northeastern USA using MODIS (2000–2005). These images demonstrate that leaf-out occurs later at higher elevations, such as the Adirondacks and White Mountains, at higher latitudes. On Cape Cod, Martha’s Vineyard, and Nantucket (islands off the coast of Cape Cod), late leafing-out is generally the result of the moderating influence of the ocean, with particularly late patches occurring as a result of scrub-oak frost pockets. Trees in Boston, New York, and other metropolitan areas leaf-out earlier because of the higher temperatures associated with the urban heat island effect; earlier leaf-out is also seen in warm river valleys. Colors indicate the date on which half of the tree canopy has leafed-out (from day 110 (April 20) to day 165 (June 15)), with earlier onset shown by blue and later onset by orange and red (figure reprinted from Fisher & Mustard, 2007, with the permission of Elsevi What's up with Manhatten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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