RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 It is all relative. If this was the 80s, most grades for this type of winter would be in the 90th percentile. But alas, the run of blockbusters, KUs, and nemos over the last decade plus have altered our perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 When you get like 15 KU storms in a decade...your expectations can become skewed to even downright delusional. I love the big ones too, but I know they don't grow on trees either and my professional opinion of that doesn't change based on a recent barrage of them. I'd be willing to bet that if we get about 2 or 3 clunkers in a row, the retroactive grading of 2013-2014 will magically start producing higher grades. Also, asking for someone to grade the winter while in the middle of a frustrating stretch is going to inherently skew the grades slightly lower too...weather enthusiasts often have a "what have you done for me lately" outlook. Yeah, I think the frequency of large storms has at least temporarily skewed reality for a lot of people. This winter has featured above average snowfall for a lot of folks in sne Despite the last 6-7 weeks being a dud. I would say folks should revisit in a couple of months, and grade then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Just entered March into my grading system, which is A+ = 4.33, A = 4.00, A- = 3.67, and on down to F = 0. The four snowy (by climo) months are given about 90% of winter's weight. I've awarded three A++, which I give 5.00 points, in March 2001 for snow (55.5", with 48" depth on 3/31), April 2007 for snow (37.2", and Farmington's snowiest April ever, by 12"), and last month for cold (Farmington's coldest March in 122 yr records).2013-14 is currently a B, with A- for cold (Jan/Feb got B/B-) and C+ for snow - Jan's F holding it down. An April B for snow would tweak that C+ to a B-. That makes for a solid B and April (6% of weight) probably won't change that. This winter is a bit ahead of 2008-09 for 3rd best, a bit behind of 2000-01 for #2 and unlikely to catch up. 3rd of 16 is pretty decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewbeer Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 B or B+. Deep pack through much of March and epic constant cold qualify this winter as definitely above average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 The snowless March's are becoming a little alarming to me. I know we just got unlucky this year, but that makes 4 of the last 5 shutouts at BDL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 The snowless March's are becoming a little alarming to me. I know we just got unlucky this year, but that makes 4 of the last 5 shutouts at BDL.It's just bad luck. The mid-atl had a snowy March and NNE had their coldest on record. I have no concern at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 It wasn't...they basically chopped down the middle. AO will end up slightly positive for the winter. EPO ridging is what gave us the cold winter in much of the CONUS...not necessarily the AO state. Cohen's work predicts the AO state. also did early work with extent and correlation with NA winters snow cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 It's just bad luck. The mid-atl had a snowy March and NNE had their coldest on record. I have no concern at all. Agree. No concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Worry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRSno Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 While aspects were frustrating, how do you manage to give a winter with subnormal temperatures November thought March and above normal snow for the season a C-? Which winters got A? March pissed me off with the bone chilling cold and paltry 2.2 inches if snow (barring a bit of a miracle prior to 4/1). Sorry my mistake, I meant B- and didn't catch my typo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Agree. No concern. It's just bad luck. The mid-atl had a snowy March and NNE had their coldest on record. I have no concern at all. Yeah, you guys are right probably. It goes back even farther though, the last 10 March's have really by and large disappointed here. I know that's not the case for NNE where they got clobbered in 2007 and maybe 2008 too? And even '09 had the one nice storm on 3/2 but then squat the rest of the way. EDIT: I will add that that the '01-'05 period was quite kind. Even March 2002 had a sneaky under-the-radar good ending to a bad winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Yeah, you guys are right probably. It goes back even farther though, the last 10 March's have really by and large disappointed here. I know that's not the case for NNE where they got clobbered in 2007 and maybe 2008 too? And even '09 had the one nice storm on 3/2 but then squat the rest of the way. EDIT: I will add that that the '01-'05 period was quite kind. Even March 2002 had a sneaky under-the-radar good ending to a bad winter. March has been, not surprisingly, the most variable of the 4 winter months for snowfall. 3/2001 is the 2nd snowiest month I've measured (topped only by 61.5" in 12/76 in Ft. Kent), and 1999, 2005, and this year all topped 30", my chosen threshold for a "big snow" month. However, none of the other twelve winters here has reached even 20" in March. Four were close to my 18" avg for the month, 5 were mediocre to bad, and 3 were awful, capped by 2010 with only 0.6". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 B plus final, slightly above normal snow, deep cold and sustained snowcover during last half of winter and a peak depth of 20 inches is nothing to sneeze at here in the valley. jan was more frustrating than march for me personally but that cannot count towards a grade.....the two week stretch in feb was epic around here with just under three feet, comparatively it rivals four and a half feet in five weeks back in 10-11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Just checking to see if Will or anyone else has begun putting together a seasonal snowfall map for 12/14 yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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