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Winter Interior NW Burbs & Hudson Valley - 2014


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We need ourselves a good ole fashion winter where we actually track a R/S line. If it snows throughout an event on the coast likes it been doing the past 5 yrs then we fringe. Heres to a winter full of coastal huggers!! :drunk:

As long as the line stays just south and east of me. Thanks. Lol

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We need ourselves a good ole fashion winter where we actually track a R/S line. If it snows throughout an event on the coast likes it been doing the past 5 yrs then we fringe. Heres to a winter full of coastal huggers!! :drunk:

We've been saying this for years, LOL. One of these years it'll happen again and hopefully we can get BxEngine on our side, haha
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lol... Rockland included!

Whenever we hear all snow on LI/Coastal NJ that usually spells trouble for the interior. Whatever happened to rain on the coast & snow n/w of 287??

I remember as a kid going through the old tolls in Spring Valley on the thruway and that being the changeover spot so often.

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As we all know 40/70 isn't exactly the benchmark for the interior. Whats your ideal track guys?? Lets hear it. 

 

I prefer an ACY to MTP tracking over CC

40/70 use to be fine for all of us but for some reason the last few years its been a very sharpe cutoff. 

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Agree that something like 40/73 is probably a more reliable 'benchmark' up here than the 40/70 that SNE reveres. That said, the past decade or so has featured a lot of novelty snowstorms (overrunning events with weak sfc lows, mesoscale bands far removed from low centers, etc) and not a whole lot of old-fashioned, red-meat powerhouse nor'easters, so it's hard for me to be sure what an ideal track would look like these days. For fun, here are surface analyses from the most memorable storms of the past several years:

 

February 2014:

 

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February 2013 (Nemo):

 

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October 2011 (Octobomb):

 

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December 2010 (Boxing Day):

 

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February 2010 (the Snowicane):

 

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February 2006:

 

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We jackpot when the coast taints. If they stay all snow we get fringed.  For the 18 yrs I've been living up in Orange county thats usually been the theme.

yea i understand that, but 40/70 doesnt always guarantee the coast snow. its been an odd few years with the precip field drastically being cutoff to the west. years ago these same tracks  had more extensive precip fields. its gotten the point that id rather have a bunch of sw flow events. at least in that  inland ares get snow even if it switches we dont have to worry about the sharpe cutoffs.

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Of the aforementioned storms, the Octobomb was the closest I came to jackpotting (regional maximum of 21.6" just a few miles to my north), but again, that was a bit of an unusual storm, and the surface low track wasn't that much closer than Nemo (which royally screwed us all). The difference there was that 2003 was a much stronger and more mature cyclone, so the precip shield was naturally tighter. Boxing Day was nice up here, but better to my south, and the death band in Feb 2006 was obviously about 70 miles too far southeast for me.

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yea i understand that, but 40/70 doesnt always guarantee the coast snow. its been an odd few years with the precip field drastically being cutoff to the west. years ago these same tracks  had more extensive precip fields. its gotten the point that id rather have a bunch of sw flow events. at least in that  inland ares get snow even if it switches we dont have to worry about the sharpe cutoffs.

I completely agree. SWFEs are usually generous for these parts w/ precip shutting off prior to any legit changeover. Maybe a little zr drizzle or ip at the end. 

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Pure weather porn right there! One of my all time favs

One of the more bizarre events I can remember. I think I ended up with several inches of slush here (my grandfather passed away a couple days before the storm, so my focus on the wx was naturally compromised), but it was crazy seeing two feet or more of cement as close as Fishkill and Beacon. The snowbanks were literally glowing blue from the moisture content.

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One of the more bizarre events I can remember. I think I ended up with several inches of slush here (my grandfather passed away a couple days before the storm, so my focus on the wx was naturally compromised), but it was crazy seeing two feet or more of cement as close as Fishkill and Beacon. The snowbanks were literally glowing blue from the moisture content.

 

It was such an awkward alignment of the R/S line but those rates were impressive to say the least. Not to mention 10" fell about 24-36 hrs prior.

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