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Winter Interior NW Burbs & Hudson Valley - 2014


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38F with steady rain, and an extremely healthy looking radar upwind. Today is a pretty nice example of how you can get a vast swath of precip on the diffluent side of an upper trough without the need for a strong surface cyclone...

 

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Seasons being seasons. This setup in July would have been a quick hitting convective threat with not much else.

 

The 12z models focus the heaviest rain today right over 95. The NAM is well over an inch.

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Seasons being seasons. This setup in July would have been a quick hitting convective threat with not much else.

 

The 12z models focus the heaviest rain today right over 95. The NAM is well over an inch.

Yeah, it all depends on how far north the warm front is able to surge. The NAM has some wicked upward VVels just south of the surface front over LI and CT by mid-evening... definitely wouldn't surprise me if folks had to deal with gusty thunderstorms.

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Yeah, it all depends on how far north the warm front is able to surge. The NAM has some wicked upward VVels just south of the surface front over LI and CT by mid-evening... definitely wouldn't surprise me if folks had to deal with gusty thunderstorms.

Yeah, definitly possible. Of course I'm hoping it's a hair too far south and east for selfish reasons.

 

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39 and rain here. I generally love rainy days, but cold rain sucks.

 

Fire up those webcams for later tonight and tomorrow in Buffalo, here's a snippet from the latest AFD (also note the forecast for next week with a couple of warm days possibly leading to flooding):

 

LATEST GUIDANCE IS NOT TOO FAR OFF FROM PREVIOUS DATASETS...AND
WILL CONTINUE WITH A HEAVY HANDED SNOW AMOUNT FORECAST...WITH SOME
LOCATIONS EXPECTED TO PUT DOWN 3-5 INCHES PER HOUR FOR SEVERAL
HOURS LATE TONIGHT INTO TUESDAY. THE FORECAST SCENARIO MATCHES
SEVERAL NEAR RECORD SETTING EVENTS...DECEMBER 2001 TO NAME
ONE. TOP 10 EVENTS FOR BUFFALO GENERALLY PUT DOWN 24 INCHES IN
24 HRS. DUE TO AN EXPECTED EXTREME GRADIENT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF
THE LAKE BAND...KBUF MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT SEE THIS...BUT SEE NO
REASON WHY OTHER AREAS JUST TO THE SOUTH WILL NOT BE ABLE TO
EXCEED 24 INCHES...AND THAT IS JUST FOR THE FIRST EVENT ENDING
SOMETIME TUESDAY NIGHT OR WEDNESDAY. THE NEXT ONE ON THURSDAY MAY
ALSO BE IMPRESSIVE...BUT THAT IS ANOTHER STORY...

500MB TEMPERATURE IS FORECAST TO DROP BELOW -40C...A TESTAMENT TO
HOW UNUSUAL THE PATTERN WILL BE BY TUESDAY AFTERNOON. HEIGHTS
ACROSS THE BOARD WILL BE SIMILARLY IMPRESSIVE...WITH 200MB WAY OF
THE CHARTS OVER A 30 YEAR CLIMATOLOGY.

WILL INCREASE FORECAST AMOUNTS A LITTLE...WITH UP TO 3 FEET IN THE
MOST HARD HIT AREAS...MAINLY JUST SOUTH OF BUFFALO AND
SOUTHTOWNS...AND OVER THE TUG HILL EAST OF LAKE ONTARIO. HAVE
CREATED ABOUT AS TIGHT OF A GRADIENT AS POSSIBLE FROM KBUF TO THE
NORTHTOWNS...WITH AMOUNTS QUICKLY DROPPING OFF TO AN INCH OR SO IN
NIAGARA COUNTY.

BLIZZARD CONSIDERATIONS...THE LATEST GUIDANCE IS SIMILAR TO
PREVIOUS GUIDANCE...WITH BORDERLINE BLIZZARD CONDITIONS OVER
WESTERN NY...AND A POSSIBLY SLIGHTLY MORE FAVORABLE SCENARIO EAST
OF LAKE ONTARIO. WILL CONTINUE TO REVIEW THE POTENTIAL SETUP THIS
AFTERNOON. COMPARISONS TO PREVIOUS NEAR AND VERIFYING LAKE EFFECT
BLIZZARDS DO NOT SHARE THE SAME PROFILE...WITH THIS EVENT
APPEARING TO BE CREATING ITS OWN STRONG WINDS WITHOUT AS MUCH
SUPPORT ALOFT. THIS IS NOT A CLEAR CUT CASE...NEED SOME MORE TIME TO
REVIEW THIS.

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I'm hard pressed to see any snow threats right now for us in the n/w areas in the next week... Not a terrible thing, it is only November.... But I can't imagine the wet pattern we are in just turning off, and the cold air week be lurking nearby... Any thoughts?

Man it's cold and windy up here today!

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I'm hard pressed to see any snow threats right now for us in the n/w areas in the next week... Not a terrible thing, it is only November.... But I can't imagine the wet pattern we are in just turning off, and the cold air week be lurking nearby... Any thoughts?

Man it's cold and windy up here today!

 

IMO, this is the key, its only November, I think I average 1.7" of snow.  My bigger concern is that up here it hasn't been a wet pattern, there have been events but they have all been under performers for months now.  I'm hoping this changes in a big way up here soon.

 

On another note, some amazing photos coming out of the lake effect bands in the Upstate NY thread, wow!

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