kenrad Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 On 12/22/2014 at 5:13 PM, snywx said: It also helped that last yr our snowpack was the best in yrs and probably helped us achieve many sub-zero/single digit nights. Regardless be thankful that you don't live anywhere near the coast. lol Its becoming quite clear that this winter is a lost cause for them. Maybe a 3-4 week winter down there. Believe it or not but 99% of us up here are above average with 10-18" of snowfall so far Agreed...coastal areas are in trouble for snow. It's bad when the Hudson Valley gets low-level/on-shore "junky" snows and Long Island gets missed, or sees mostly rain. It was surprising to see the amount of locations that saw coatings locally early Sunday and Monday...though it didn't look like Middletown was one them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinzGuy Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Went out to unplug the lights and was surprised to see a coating here last night. GFS has the inland/coastal hugger trend continuing, hope we're not too far southeast to cash in on the moderate events. Waiting to see what ECM does with the 27-28 event, looks like its a little too far NW this run but a lot is gonna depend on the pending cutter I think as far as how much cold air makes it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 On 12/22/2014 at 5:48 PM, kenrad said: Agreed...coastal areas are in trouble for snow. It's bad when the Hudson Valley gets low-level/on-shore "junky" snows and Long Island gets missed, or sees mostly rain. It was surprising to see the amount of locations that saw coatings locally early Sunday and Monday...though it didn't look like Middletown was one them. We had a very light coating a couple nights ago but most of the flurries look to be concentrated east of the river Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 picked up 0.3 inches of snow overnight. All white this morning. Was a little slick in spots this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I would put the rink up . Even in the mildest winter it will get use . Better to do it now while it's relatively mild out than due it when it's bitter cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I cannot believe we are getting epic rain on Xmas. It's just wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfoot Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 On 12/22/2014 at 11:04 PM, rgwp96 said: I would put the rink up . Even in the mildest winter it will get use . Better to do it now while it's relatively mild out than due it when it's bitter cold How does it get use if it is slush......I know it can refrezee,but it will be a rough surface upon refreez....imo.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 On 12/23/2014 at 6:51 AM, Bigfoot said: How does it get use if it is slush......I know it can refrezee,but it will be a rough surface upon refreez....imo.. The people that I know that have them either give it a fresh coating of water or have stuff to help resurface the ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chietanen Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 On 12/23/2014 at 6:51 AM, Bigfoot said: How does it get use if it is slush......I know it can refrezee,but it will be a rough surface upon refreez....imo.. You can't use it if it gets slushy, which makes snow a mixed blessing for someone like me. I love it, but it insulates the ice and makes it slushy, so you have to shovel as much as possible during or just after a storm. If temperatures are cold enough, I resurface every night with hot water from my laundry room via a hose. I put down about 1/8 to 1/4" of fresh water. Last year, some of the nights were almost too cold, as even the hot water would freeze relatively quickly and lead to uneven spots on the ice. I find you get a much smoother surface when nighttime temperatures are in the teens and twenties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chietanen Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Looks like Santa will be battling the elements tomorrow night. Gusty winds and some rumbles of thunder as this moves through. We may even surpass 60 degrees in the valleys briefly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 On 12/24/2014 at 3:14 AM, chietanen said: You can't use it if it gets slushy, which makes snow a mixed blessing for someone like me. I love it, but it insulates the ice and makes it slushy, so you have to shovel as much as possible during or just after a storm. If temperatures are cold enough, I resurface every night with hot water from my laundry room via a hose. I put down about 1/8 to 1/4" of fresh water. Last year, some of the nights were almost too cold, as even the hot water would freeze relatively quickly and lead to uneven spots on the ice. I find you get a much smoother surface when nighttime temperatures are in the teens and twenties. Just curious as to why you use hot water, is it because it freezes faster and thats benefical to the ice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 On 12/24/2014 at 3:59 PM, IrishRob17 said: Just curious as to why you use hot water, is it because it freezes faster and thats benefical to the ice? Hot water is used because it melts the layer of ice below it somewhat,which than makes it freeze to the other ice better. It makes the ice stronger and wont chip as easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chietanen Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 On 12/24/2014 at 3:59 PM, IrishRob17 said: Just curious as to why you use hot water, is it because it freezes faster and thats benefical to the ice? On 12/24/2014 at 6:38 PM, rgwp96 said: Hot water is used because it melts the layer of ice below it somewhat,which than makes it freeze to the other ice better. It makes the ice stronger and wont chip as easily Exactly. It removes surface imperfections that sweeping or shoveling won't (grooves from skates), creates a stronger skating surface (picture a solid block rather than fractured segments of ice, which may happen if the water is cold and freezes rapidly when applied), and also, in my experience, a clearer surface (ie nicer to look at). I believe there is a phenomenon where hot water freezes faster than cold water, but I don't think it pertains to resurfacing ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 You could probably get a used Zamboni Model 700 resurfacer for only $75,000 or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chietanen Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Lots of moving pieces over the next week or so, but I do think we break our snow drought at some point. No specific event stands out, but each model appears to develop something in the 30th-2nd time frame, so hopefully something works out in that time period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chietanen Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 On 12/24/2014 at 6:57 PM, Juliancolton said: You could probably get a used Zamboni Model 700 resurfacer for only $75,000 or so Pocket change! I actually made a "rink rake" the first year out of PVC etc, but it was more of a PITA to use than anything else, so I just use a hose now, much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 On 12/24/2014 at 6:38 PM, rgwp96 said: Hot water is used because it melts the layer of ice below it somewhat,which than makes it freeze to the other ice better. It makes the ice stronger and wont chip as easily On 12/24/2014 at 6:54 PM, chietanen said: Exactly. It removes surface imperfections that sweeping or shoveling won't (grooves from skates), creates a stronger skating surface (picture a solid block rather than fractured segments of ice, which may happen if the water is cold and freezes rapidly when applied), and also, in my experience, a clearer surface (ie nicer to look at). I believe there is a phenomenon where hot water freezes faster than cold water, but I don't think it pertains to resurfacing ice. Of course, a total 'duh' on my part. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 On 12/24/2014 at 6:54 PM, chietanen said: Exactly. It removes surface imperfections that sweeping or shoveling won't (grooves from skates), creates a stronger skating surface (picture a solid block rather than fractured segments of ice, which may happen if the water is cold and freezes rapidly when applied), and also, in my experience, a clearer surface (ie nicer to look at). I believe there is a phenomenon where hot water freezes faster than cold water, but I don't think it pertains to resurfacing ice. Mpemba effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 57.6/57 and climbing like mad. a solid 10 degrees warmer than KPOU. Station to my south confirms this awful warm tongue: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Merry Christmas Folks! Only .60 storm total here, yet another underwhelming event, something to kept in mind, at least around here. Have a great day Friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudsonvalley21 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 On 12/25/2014 at 4:56 PM, IrishRob17 said: Merry Christmas Folks! Only .60 storm total here, yet another underwhelming event, something to kept in mind, at least around here. Have a great day Friends! Merry Christmas to you and your family Rob, also to all of our posters in our interior thread. Best wishes and Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Merry Christmas, everyone. 0.41" storm total here, now overcast and 47.5F. Storm fail, sunny day fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Merry Christmas everyone!... 0.52" storm total here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 1.07 total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 You know its bad when its 40f at 945pm on 12/25 & it feels chilly.. Terrible lol I should be outside on my driveway smoking a cig in a Tshirt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 On 12/25/2014 at 6:39 PM, Juliancolton said: Merry Christmas, everyone. 0.41" storm total here, now overcast and 47.5F. Storm fail, sunny day fail. Damn, if that was snow and we were expecting 1-2 feet and got only 4-5 inches, I'd be pissed.....but then again...we'd still get a white Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chietanen Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 On 12/26/2014 at 3:13 AM, White Gorilla said: Damn, if that was snow and we were expecting 1-2 feet and got only 4-5 inches, I'd be pissed.....but then again...we'd still get a white Xmas. It was actually nice not having a storm to obsess over for Christmas. Because if we were getting a 1-2 ft storm, I'd be glued to the computer screen! Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to each of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 On 12/26/2014 at 3:22 AM, chietanen said: It was actually nice not having a storm to obsess over for Christmas. Because if we were getting a 1-2 ft storm, I'd be glued to the computer screen! Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to each of you. Same to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted December 27, 2014 Author Share Posted December 27, 2014 Good day weather fans, High today was 51F Low was 34 f Current temp 45F We will be entering the much antcipated start of winter according to all winter forecast the 1st of January. January is predicted to be a cold and snowy month. Stay tuned as big changes are going to be occurring Went fishing today as a result of the spring like weather. Best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Everything I've read as of late seems to suggest a rather sluggish return to winter over the next several weeks. My expectations are tempered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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