KPITSnow Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I am so lost about Tommrow storm I won't say my opinions on totals, psu u did well with your first map. Bring it again. But remember if we get 1 or 3 or 6 or 17 it will probily melt by weekend. I don't know about 17 melting lol. Umm, psu's last map predicted 6-10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psunate1977 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 So close, yet so far Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 So close, yet so far Sent from my iPhone That's pretty much the story of this winter when it comes to the big storms. Fringed in all directions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 So close, yet so far Sent from my iPhone Yeah, check out the Blizzard warning: URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGENATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BUFFALO NY409 AM EDT WED MAR 12 2014NYZ019-085-121615-/O.NEW.KBUF.WC.Y.0015.140313T0600Z-140313T1500Z//O.CON.KBUF.BZ.W.0002.000000T0000Z-140313T0600Z/CHAUTAUQUA-SOUTHERN ERIE-INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...JAMESTOWN...ORCHARD PARK...SPRINGVILLE409 AM EDT WED MAR 12 2014...BLIZZARD WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 2 AM EDT THURSDAY......WIND CHILL ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 2 AM TO 11 AM EDTTHURSDAY...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BUFFALO HAS ISSUED A WIND CHILLADVISORY...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 2 AM TO 11 AM EDT THURSDAY.* LOCATIONS...SOUTHERN ERIE AND CHAUTAUQUA COUNTIES.* TIMING...LIGHT SNOW WILL BECOME HEAVY BY MID TO LATE MORNING AND CONTINUE INTO THE EVENING. GREATEST RISK OF BLIZZARD CONDITIONS FROM MIDDAY THROUGH THE EVENING.* HAZARDS...HEAVY SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW WITH BLIZZARD CONDITIONS AT TIMES. BITTERLY COLD WIND CHILLS LATE TONIGHT AND THURSDAY MORNING.* ACCUMULATIONS...6 TO 11 INCHES TODAY AND 3 TO 6 INCHES TONIGHT LEADING TO STORM TOTALS OF 10 TO 15 INCHES.* WINDS...NORTH 20 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 45 MPH PRODUCING WIDESPREAD BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW.* WIND CHILLS...AS COLD AS 15 TO 20 BELOW LATE TONIGHT AND THURSDAY MORNING.* VISIBILITIES...NEAR ZERO AT TIMES.* IMPACTS...CONDITIONS WILL RAPIDLY DETERIORATE LATER THIS MORNING...WITH RELATIVELY LIGHT SNOW BECOMING HEAVY BY MID TO LATE MORNING. THE COMBINATION OF HEAVY SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW WILL MAKE TRAVEL EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING. VISIBILITY WILL BE DRAMATICALLY REDUCED WITH DEEP SNOW COVER ON ROADWAYS DURING THE PEAK OF THE STORM.PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...A BLIZZARD WARNING MEANS SEVERE WINTER WEATHER CONDITIONS AREEXPECTED OR OCCURRING. FALLING AND BLOWING SNOW WITH STRONG WINDSAND POOR VISIBILITIES ARE LIKELY. THIS WILL LEAD TO WHITEOUTCONDITIONS...MAKING TRAVEL EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. DO NOT TRAVEL. IFYOU ABSOLUTELY MUST TRAVEL...HAVE A WINTER SURVIVAL KIT WITH YOU.IF YOU GET STRANDED...STAY WITH YOUR VEHICLE.IF YOU LOSE POWER AND PLAN ON RUNNING A GENERATOR...MAKE SURETHAT THE GENERATOR IS LOCATED OUTDOORS AND IS PROPERLYVENTILATED. SPACE HEATERS SHOULD ALSO BE PROPERLY VENTILATED ANDUSED ONLY IF THEY ARE OPERATING PROPERLY. MAKE SURE SNOW DOES NOTBLOCK EXHAUSTS AND FRESH AIR INTAKES FOR HIGH EFFICIENCY FURNACESAND WATER HEATERS.REPORT SNOW ACCUMULATION TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE INBUFFALO BY SENDING AN EMAIL TO [email protected] THE NWS BUFFALO FACEBOOK PAGE...OR TWEET...USING THE HASHTAGBUFWXA WIND CHILL ADVISORY IS ISSUED WHEN STRONG WIND WILL COMBINEWITH COLD TEMPERATURES TO CREATE DANGEROUSLY COLD CONDITIONS FOREXPOSED SKIN. THE WIND WILL MAKE IT FEEL LIKE IT IS 15 DEGREESBELOW ZERO OR COLDER FOR A PERIOD OF SEVERAL HOURS. IF YOU WILLBE OUTDOORS USE COMMON SENSE AND DRESS WARMLY...MAKING SURE THATALL EXPOSED SKIN IS COVERED. IF POSSIBLE...AVOID PROLONGEDEXPOSURE TO THE COLD TO PREVENT FROSTBITE AND HYPOTHERMIA.STAY TUNED TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO OR YOUR FAVORITE SOURCE OFWEATHER INFORMATION FOR THE LATEST UPDATES. ADDITIONAL DETAILSCAN ALSO BE FOUND AT WWW.WEATHER.GOV/BUFFALO.&&$$ Some areas are getting even more snow. One of these winters SWPA will get a blizzard warning.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 First rumble of thunder of the year. WooHoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I have relatives in Rochester NY who just posted that they are getting heavy snow again. Here is their Warning. NYZ003>005-013-014-121615-/O.CON.KBUF.BZ.W.0002.140312T0900Z-140313T0900Z/MONROE-WAYNE-NORTHERN CAYUGA-LIVINGSTON-ONTARIO-INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...ROCHESTER...NEWARK...FAIR HAVEN...GENESEO...CANANDAIGUA409 AM EDT WED MAR 12 2014...BLIZZARD WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 5 AM EDT THURSDAY...* LOCATIONS...MONROE...WAYNE...NORTHERN CAYUGA...LIVINGSTON ANDONTARIO COUNTIES.* TIMING...LIGHT SNOW WILL BECOME HEAVY BY LATE MORNING ANDCONTINUE THROUGH THE EVENING. GREATEST RISK OF BLIZZARDCONDITIONS FROM MIDDAY THROUGH THE FIRST HALF OF TONIGHT.* HAZARDS...HEAVY SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW WITH BLIZZARD CONDITIONSAT TIMES.* ACCUMULATIONS...6 TO 11 INCHES TODAY AND 5 TO 9 INCHESTONIGHT...LEADING TO STORM TOTALS OF 14 TO 19 INCHES.* WINDS...NORTH 25 TO 35 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 45 MPH PRODUCINGWIDESPREAD BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW.* VISIBILITIES...NEAR ZERO AT TIMES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChalkHillSnowNut Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 All this wasted liquid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdd9108 Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 All this wasted liquid Yep, its just not our year and its becoming more difficult to get a big snow storm. I just don't see it happening this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0178NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK1043 AM CDT WED MAR 12 2014AREAS AFFECTED...WV...NRN VA...SRN PA...WRN MDCONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH UNLIKELYVALID 121543Z - 121815ZPROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...20 PERCENTSUMMARY...SHALLOW CONVECTION ALONG THE ADVANCING COLD FRONT MAYGRADUALLY STRENGTHEN DURING THE DAY WITH A THREAT OF DAMAGING WINDS.DISCUSSION...A SURFACE LOW WILL CONTINUE TO RAPIDLY DEEPEN AS ITTRAVELS EWD ALONG A WARM FRONT OVER SRN PA DURING THE DAY AND ACROSSSRN NEW ENGLAND OVERNIGHT. TRAILING THE LOW IS A STRONG COLD FRONTWHERE SUBSTANTIAL PRESSURE RISES ARE BEING OBSERVED.MEANWHILE...SWLY WINDS IN THE LOW-LEVELS ARE CONTINUING TO ADVANCESLIGHTLY WARMER AND MORE MOIST AIR NEWD ACROSS THE WARM SECTOR.HOWEVER...AS OF 15Z DEWPOINTS WERE RELATIVELY LOW WITH LITTLE IF ANYINSTABILITY NOTED ON MODIFIED FORECAST SOUNDINGS.THE MOST FAVORABLE AREA FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF DAMAGING WINDS ISLIKELY TO BE NEAR THE SURFACE LOW WHERE FORCING WILL HELP COMPENSATEFOR LACK OF INSTABILITY. THE STRONGER RADAR ECHOS CURRENTLY OVERSERN OH AS OF 1540Z ARE A REFLECTION OF THIS FORCING. THIS AREA WILLCONTINUE TO BE MONITORED AS IT DEVELOPS NEWD TODAY.AREAS FARTHER S ACROSS MAY SEE AN INCREASING THREAT BY LATEAFTERNOON OR EVENING AS THE BETTER LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE EVENTUALLYINTERACTS WITH THE FRONT ACROSS VA INTO THE DELMARVA...JEWELL/HART.. 03/12/2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Yeah, check out the Blizzard warning: URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BUFFALO NY 409 AM EDT WED MAR 12 2014 NYZ019-085-121615- /O.NEW.KBUF.WC.Y.0015.140313T0600Z-140313T1500Z/ /O.CON.KBUF.BZ.W.0002.000000T0000Z-140313T0600Z/ CHAUTAUQUA-SOUTHERN ERIE- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...JAMESTOWN...ORCHARD PARK...SPRINGVILLE 409 AM EDT WED MAR 12 2014 ...BLIZZARD WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 2 AM EDT THURSDAY... ...WIND CHILL ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 2 AM TO 11 AM EDT THURSDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BUFFALO HAS ISSUED A WIND CHILL ADVISORY...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 2 AM TO 11 AM EDT THURSDAY. * LOCATIONS...SOUTHERN ERIE AND CHAUTAUQUA COUNTIES. * TIMING...LIGHT SNOW WILL BECOME HEAVY BY MID TO LATE MORNING AND CONTINUE INTO THE EVENING. GREATEST RISK OF BLIZZARD CONDITIONS FROM MIDDAY THROUGH THE EVENING. * HAZARDS...HEAVY SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW WITH BLIZZARD CONDITIONS AT TIMES. BITTERLY COLD WIND CHILLS LATE TONIGHT AND THURSDAY MORNING. * ACCUMULATIONS...6 TO 11 INCHES TODAY AND 3 TO 6 INCHES TONIGHT LEADING TO STORM TOTALS OF 10 TO 15 INCHES. * WINDS...NORTH 20 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 45 MPH PRODUCING WIDESPREAD BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW. * WIND CHILLS...AS COLD AS 15 TO 20 BELOW LATE TONIGHT AND THURSDAY MORNING. * VISIBILITIES...NEAR ZERO AT TIMES. * IMPACTS...CONDITIONS WILL RAPIDLY DETERIORATE LATER THIS MORNING...WITH RELATIVELY LIGHT SNOW BECOMING HEAVY BY MID TO LATE MORNING. THE COMBINATION OF HEAVY SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW WILL MAKE TRAVEL EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING. VISIBILITY WILL BE DRAMATICALLY REDUCED WITH DEEP SNOW COVER ON ROADWAYS DURING THE PEAK OF THE STORM. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A BLIZZARD WARNING MEANS SEVERE WINTER WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. FALLING AND BLOWING SNOW WITH STRONG WINDS AND POOR VISIBILITIES ARE LIKELY. THIS WILL LEAD TO WHITEOUT CONDITIONS...MAKING TRAVEL EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. DO NOT TRAVEL. IF YOU ABSOLUTELY MUST TRAVEL...HAVE A WINTER SURVIVAL KIT WITH YOU. IF YOU GET STRANDED...STAY WITH YOUR VEHICLE. IF YOU LOSE POWER AND PLAN ON RUNNING A GENERATOR...MAKE SURE THAT THE GENERATOR IS LOCATED OUTDOORS AND IS PROPERLY VENTILATED. SPACE HEATERS SHOULD ALSO BE PROPERLY VENTILATED AND USED ONLY IF THEY ARE OPERATING PROPERLY. MAKE SURE SNOW DOES NOT BLOCK EXHAUSTS AND FRESH AIR INTAKES FOR HIGH EFFICIENCY FURNACES AND WATER HEATERS. REPORT SNOW ACCUMULATION TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BUFFALO BY SENDING AN EMAIL TO [email protected] TO THE NWS BUFFALO FACEBOOK PAGE...OR TWEET...USING THE HASHTAG BUFWX A WIND CHILL ADVISORY IS ISSUED WHEN STRONG WIND WILL COMBINE WITH COLD TEMPERATURES TO CREATE DANGEROUSLY COLD CONDITIONS FOR EXPOSED SKIN. THE WIND WILL MAKE IT FEEL LIKE IT IS 15 DEGREES BELOW ZERO OR COLDER FOR A PERIOD OF SEVERAL HOURS. IF YOU WILL BE OUTDOORS USE COMMON SENSE AND DRESS WARMLY...MAKING SURE THAT ALL EXPOSED SKIN IS COVERED. IF POSSIBLE...AVOID PROLONGED EXPOSURE TO THE COLD TO PREVENT FROSTBITE AND HYPOTHERMIA. STAY TUNED TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO OR YOUR FAVORITE SOURCE OF WEATHER INFORMATION FOR THE LATEST UPDATES. ADDITIONAL DETAILS CAN ALSO BE FOUND AT WWW.WEATHER.GOV/BUFFALO. && $$Some areas are getting even more snow. One of these winters SWPA will get a blizzard warning.... I don't think we've had a blizzard warning since 1993. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 All this wasted liquid I have picked up .51 inches of rain since 7:00 am this morning. Could have been a nice thump of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Do we even get any snow out of this? Looking at radar, snow looks like it will be too much north by the time it gets cold enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwc Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Do we even get any snow out of this? Looking at radar, snow looks like it will be too much north by the time it gets cold enough? we will get back end snow showers, nothing to get excited about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Looks like the front is closing in on the area. The wrap around snows aren't looking all that impressive on radar. I noticed NWS dropped from 2-4 to 1-3. I'll be satisfied if we can squeeze 2 out with some howling winds and flash freeze. Anyways I saw this, St. Patty's Day Storm, brought to you by the GGEM: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Looks like the front is closing in on the area. The wrap around snows aren't looking all that impressive on radar. I noticed NWS dropped from 2-4 to 1-3. I'll be satisfied if we can squeeze 2 out with some howling winds and flash freeze. Anyways I saw this, St. Patty's Day Storm, brought to you by the GGEM: post-2035-0-37464300-1394644504.jpg This has been my model of choice this year too. It has been spot on from 4 days in. If this could only hold. By the way. You are right. It looks as though the precip will be light as the front goes through later. I am guessing most areas will see an inch or less. Still enough for icy roads but not too much for shoveling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdd9108 Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 Ohh Canada!!!!! Canadian did good on the storm that screwed us so maybe it could just lock in or get stronger now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkbugspecialist Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 What day is snow forecasted on according to that model??would it snow sat or sun. When will it start. According to the models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 This has been my model of choice this year too. It has been spot on from 4 days in. If this could only hold. That just means it's due to screw up. Lol That's the pessimist in me after so many misses. By the way. You are right. It looks as though the precip will be light as the front goes through later. I am guessing most areas will see an inch or less. Still enough for icy roads but not too much for shoveling. Pretty typical of the rain to snow scenarios around here. Not much moisture left when the cold air finally comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 What day is snow forecasted on according to that model??would it snow sat or sun. When will it start. According to the models I believe it's Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I am hoping for the big phase too but I have a feeling we will have our typical rain turning to snow with the cold front and an inch or less. Just a gut feeling. Hope I am wrong. My post from Saturday. Let's see if it holds true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdd9108 Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 http://s1103.photobucket.com/user/steveginx/media/getimg%204.png.html FWIW. Could this be the one or are we gonna get trolled for the 20th time this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psunate1977 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Looks like the front is closing in on the area. The wrap around snows aren't looking all that impressive on radar. I noticed NWS dropped from 2-4 to 1-3. I'll be satisfied if we can squeeze 2 out with some howling winds and flash freeze. Anyways I saw this, St. Patty's Day Storm, brought to you by the GGEM: post-2035-0-37464300-1394644504.jpg I'm with you, except for the flash freeze. The timing could still have people out and it be very dicey. Can't wish that on anyone. I do hope we get 2-3" but that is even looking like a stretch with most of the moisture gone. One of the bad things about the whole rain to snow situation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 http://s1103.photobucket.com/user/steveginx/media/getimg%204.png.html FWIW. Could this be the one or are we gonna get trolled for the 20th time this year. Well now I am confused, does the Euro show another storm after the St. Patty's day storm? This is what the Euro is showing for Monday event: That map you have Rdd shows the snow from todays storm, what looks like the St. Patty's storm which is a miss to the South, then something that nails the rest of PA in between, or am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdd9108 Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 Idk I took it from the NE thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 http://s1103.photobucket.com/user/steveginx/media/getimg%204.png.html FWIW. Could this be the one or are we gonna get trolled for the 20th time this year. There is pretty much zero chance this will happen. I know everyone is wishful, but how many times have these clown maps shown a nice scenario for our area this year, and how many times has that come to fruition. ZERO. I am as big a snow weenie as anyone but time to move on. Show me a map 6 hours before a storm is coming and I might believe that. 5 or so days out forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Idk I took it from the NE thread. Yeah, I just checked that thread, apparently there is another storm on the Euro on the 20th. I think that is the one that gives PA most of the snow shown on that map. So that 192 Map has total snowfall from 3 different storms, first being today's. Well, anyways looks like another week of tracking storms. What a winter! Anyways, to summarize GGEM shows the St. Patty's day storm hitting us pretty good, but the Euro fringes us on that one then we get slammed a few days later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 There is pretty much zero chance this will happen. I know everyone is wishful, but how many times have these clown maps shown a nice scenario for our area this year, and how many times has that come to fruition. ZERO. I am as big a snow weenie as anyone but time to move on. Show me a map 6 hours before a storm is coming and I might believe that. 5 or so days out forget it. Well I don't think anyone is taking these verbatim. Basic gist is that there is the potential for multiple storm threats starting early next week. That doesn't mean we get hit by one as we all know to well, but something to keep an eye on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdd9108 Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 also I hear murmurs that there is a clipper in the long range. This winter is hanging on for dear life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 My temp is down to 35 with strong Northwest winds and Light drizzle. I was just out driving around and they are pre-salting all the roads in Ross Twp including Mcknight Road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Winds are really starting to pick up. Just had some gusts over 40 mph pushing 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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