Ji Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Prob a couple inches? Maybe a little more if lucky? We need this to tick about 25-50 miles S with the cold push and it would do wonders. You are up dude. Do you have a phone number for text so i dont have to stalk you in your winter storm threads lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Looks like cheap midnight highs again to screw high temps, because temps Thursday aftn will be frigid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Yeah, He is in a good spot for this as well as PF right now, But lucy has pulled the football out from under them so many times they walk on egg shells so i can see the conservative approach, Always can go up Well that's always my forecasting method at the mountain... start low with snowfall and go up from there. Skiers do not like being told they will get 8-16" only to have it end up 4-8". But they love being told 4-8" and have that increase to 8-16". I almost play it to the emotions of others, as that's pretty much what I do. Play with their emotions until they can't resist the urge to go skiing, lol. Set expectations low, then exceed them. Trust me when I say a person in my position will have more people like him in the local community than someone who is always going Hype on them only to see it fall apart. I like 6-12" right now. I think that's reasonable if we end up in that 0.5-1.0" QPF range. I don't like banking on ratios in synoptic storms, so I'll never go much higher than 12:1 in these situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Ahhh gotta love the ARW models... the early run prior to the 12z suite has the H85 freezing line up to Montpelier, VT. That's been jacked up though just as much as the NMM has been way too far south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Wow, new SREFS jumped way north with QPF. Mean low pressure goes from NYC to just east of BOS. There are a disturbing amount of members that bring the low to like almost ALB before going east. Uh oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Wow, new SREFS jumped way north with QPF. Mean low pressure goes from NYC to just east of BOS. you win the award for the first person to mention the SREFs this threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Well that's always my forecasting method at the mountain... start low with snowfall and go up from there. Skiers do not like being told they will get 8-16" only to have it end up 4-8". But they love being told 4-8" and have that increase to 8-16". I almost play it to the emotions of others, as that's pretty much what I do. Play with their emotions until they can't resist the urge to go skiing, lol. Set expectations low, then exceed them. Trust me when I say a person in my position will have more people like him in the local community than someone who is always going Hype on them only to see it fall apart. I like 6-12" right now. I think that's reasonable if we end up in that 0.5-1.0" QPF range. I don't like banking on ratios in synoptic storms, so I'll never go much higher than 12:1 in these situations. I do they same thing on the 2 sites i do the weather for, Your a hero when you have to tell them they are getting more, But that's the main reason when i do my maps, I wait it out so i am not changing them constantly, Been burned in the past a few years back by making changes when if i left it alone i would have been fine............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Wow, new SREFS jumped way north with QPF. Mean low pressure goes from NYC to just east of BOS. There are a disturbing amount of members that bring the low to like almost ALB before going east. Uh oh. lol, I saw the 09z and tossed it in the can earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 That means the NAm should be up over ALB with the low track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 That means the NAm should be up over ALB with the low track And i have a spot in the same barrel for it as well, But i have seen times where it does not follow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavy_wx Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Box playing the data-sparse-Pacific card heavily: As the parent system was still over the Pacific at the time of initial conditions...insufficient confidence to move to categorical probability of precipitation. Instead we have held at high-end likely...68 to 74 percent. The parent system moves ashore this morning...and so one would expect confidence to increase during the day. ... This analysis is of course based on the 00z models...and as noted earlier this could change as the parent system moves into the North American weather balloon domain. A headline may eventually be needed when forecast confidence increases. There's a lot of moisture with that cyclone south of the Aleutians. Models tend to under-represent the diabatic heating that results from these atmospheric rivers. In this case, there's also an anticyclonic wave breaking (challenging for models to handle as well) that occurs as the ridge amplifies and moves over the NW US. This feature may impact how the larger-scale trough downstream amplifies over the midwest. That said, there isn't a huge amount of spread between solutions so confidence may still be close to normal for this lead time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 you win the award for the first person to mention the SREFs this threat. Do I get a golden weenie trophy or something? What is it with the ensembles recently...doesn't matter the model, they jump all over the freakin' place and they all seem to move together. I've never remembered such inconsistencies in ensembles. The GEFS follow the OP, so do the ECEM, and the NAM and SREFS are useless but seem to be in the same boat with these huge 6-hour swings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 And i have a spot in the same barrel for it as well, But i have seen times where it does not follow Both sets of guidance are almost completely worthless unfortunately in this time range. SREFs used to have a clue for a couple years...but not since whatever upgrade they did in 2012. Just horrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Both sets of guidance are almost completely worthless unfortunately in this time range. SREFs used to have a clue for a couple years...but not since whatever upgrade they did in 2012. Just horrific. It is so true, And its to bad to have models that are not useful as tools to use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 You should treat and use the NAM, SREFs, and RAP all the same. Unfortunately, two of the three are run to 84 and 87 hrs respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnowman Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Annnnd the NAM is warmer. Ohh man Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 LOL the NAM has the low in NE PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Annnnd the NAM is warmer. Ohh man Ugh. I'd wait for the real guidance to come out before getting overly worried...but this definitely does not have a good look for SNE unless that vort-lobe comes further SE. Funny how it completely obliterated last storm....now, when we actually need it for just a modest push, its got less punch than Kevin's BMI after running a marathon. I guess that is the way it goes sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Annnnd the NAM is warmer. Ohh man Ugh. How could it not be? it was dropping 12 plus over all of SNE just about. The end game is becoming clearer. It's going to start as rain for just about everyone from CON south..It's just how soon can it flip to snow..25-50 miles south and it's very quick..Now it's just a 6 hour period on the backside and it's like 2-4 or 3-6..The way things are trending so far today..you'd have to think the Euro is going to be north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 This can stop getting amped up, lol. Still 36+ hours left for this to trend. The ECM just needs to stay where it is and we can relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 LOL the NAM has the low in NE PA. matches the sref's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 This can stop getting amped up, lol. Still 36+ hours left for this to trend. The ECM just needs to stay where it is and we can relax. If the Euro goes north as we expect you may have to start worrying about mixing lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 This can stop getting amped up, lol. Still 36+ hours left for this to trend. The ECM just needs to stay where it is and we can relax. You can blame SnowMan for bad juju if this keeps amping. Though you are in about the best spot possible in NE so I wouldn't worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 NAM is a mess here. Big warm tongue from H75-H8. It's more of a WAA thump here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 If the Euro goes north as we expect you may have to start worrying about mixing lol Ha the thought did cross my mind as this is phasing a lot earlier. You can see the southern energy gets ripped north much further west as that northern stream digs in, where as yesterday it was more at the coast or just off the coast. Now that energy seems to absorbed in like eastern PA instead of off the NJ coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Ha the thought did cross my mind as this is phasing a lot earlier. You can see the southern energy gets ripped north much further west as that northern stream digs in, where as yesterday it was more at the coast or just off the coast. Now that energy seems to absorbed in like eastern PA instead of off the NJ coast. SNE is 100% done CNE is getting close to 75% done Hopefully ski resorts can hang on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 that backside stuff rarely works out. i wouldn't bank on more than an inch or 2 if i were youI'm banking on 100% rain given today's trends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 SNE is 100% done CNE is getting close to 75% done Hopefully ski resorts can hang on Well we are watching the Triple A teams play ball right now... we've got another 2-3 hours till we get through the Major League game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyngsboro Chowdacane Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Interesting track, just a small wobble can greatly effect a few million people in SNE. On the Mass Border, expecting anywhere from around 2inches of backside only snow, to 12 inches on a mostly snow event. Leaning more towards the 2 at this point. At least Ski country gets a solid dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyngsboro Chowdacane Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Interesting track, just a small wobble can greatly effect a few million people in SNE. On the Mass Border, expecting anywhere from around 2inches of backside only snow, to 12 inches on a mostly snow event. Leaning more towards the 2 at this point. At least Ski country gets a solid dump. Sorry, meant on the NH border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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