ORH_wxman Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 pretty sure this run would hammer N VT with that H5 look...lol Its an enormous storm...this isn't a strung out thing or a compact nuke...it would hit a pretty wide area with huge snows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Its an enormous storm...this isn't a strung out thing or a compact nuke...it would hit a pretty wide area with huge snows. Or rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Welp ... not to hone details that will surely poke the collective hornet's nest but the 12z operational Euro "appeals" on the rip-n-read synoptic chart to pretty much dump 1 to 3 feet of snow for SNE/CNE and Maine I really can't believe you posted that. I wonder who's twittering that.... Yeah at 06z...and the run initializes at 12z...so 138 hours out if you want to be nitpicky, which is much closer to 6 days. Lots of time for this to sh*t the bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 pretty sure this run would hammer N VT with that H5 look...lol He's cracking me up with those post though -- it's like post traumatic shock disorder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 Well this thread is pretty well 12-15th focused ... but, as Will and I had previously stressed, this is more of an era of opportunities over anything that would produce a single event. The transpiration of the MJO and it's effectiveness on inducing +PNA will "probably" take 10 days (or so...) Already I am seeing fuzzy cues for another event 18-21st of the month, maybe sooner. The -NAO component of the original analysis does not appear as striking to me. No sooner ... the operational runs that are carrying a more important event for next week are actually showing more progression. Thing is this particular Euro solution just has such a massive areal coverage to the storm that it would still take a good 24 hours [probably] to get it by the boards. But pick a model, and you can see the standing wave aspect to the flow, with additional impulses ready to topple the western ridge and perhaps carve out a 2nd installment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Well this thread is pretty well 12-15th focused ... but, as Will and I had previously stressed, this is more of an era of opportunities over anything that would produce a single event. The transpiration of the MJO and it's effectiveness on inducing +PNA will "probably" take 10 days (or so...) Already I am seeing fuzzy cues for another event 18-21st of the month, maybe sooner. The -NAO component of the original analysis does not appear as striking to me. No sooner ... the operational runs that are carrying a more important event for next week are actually showing more progression. Thing is this particular Euro solution just has such a massive areal coverage to the storm that it would still take a good 24 hours [probably] to get it by the boards. But pick a model, and you can see the standing wave aspect to the flow, with additional impulses ready to topple the western ridge and perhaps carve out a 2nd installment. Thank you katodog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 I really can't believe you posted that. I wonder who's twittering that.... Lots of time for this to sh*t the bed. I don't twitter... But also, I said the rip-n-read synoptic appeal... that doesn't really say much other than a significant event in actual reading-comprehension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterfish55 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Yeah at 06z...and the run initializes at 12z...so 138 hours out if you want to be nitpicky, which is much closer to 6 days. Yes but if you subtract the hour for day light savings, then it starts much sooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Or rain Not on that depiction (which is what I was referencing)...at least in our region save maybe the Cape and south coast of RI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 Thank you katodog! I'm sure you must be out to troll and insult me... that's all well and good - but it doesn't work if I don't know what katodog really means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Not on that depiction (which is what I was referencing)...at least in our region save maybe the Cape and south coast of RI. My bad, I thought you were referring to the storm in general. Like, the models are coming to the consensus that it is going to be a large coverage area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I'm sure you must be out to troll and insult me... that's all well and good - but it doesn't work if I don't know what katodog really means? Just a lighthearted joke, actually. My humble apologies if actual injury occurred; certainly not intentional. katodog is a special poster who often speaks of his visions of future storms to come... the details are hazy and yet certain elements are crystal clear. Apparently frequenting Off Topic once more these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlantStickers Anonymous Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I'm sure you must be out to troll and insult me... that's all well and good - but it doesn't work if I don't know what katodog really means? Katodog is a poster with prescient abilities, forseeing major storms weeks in advance. He also ends all his posts politely, so it's a compliment really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 My bad, I thought you were referring to the storm in general. Like, the models are coming to the consensus that it is going to be a large coverage area. No, a more disengaged solution with less interaction of the rockies energy would produce a flatter system with less coverage in precip and intensity. The larger scale synoptic features are hinted on all guidance but the exact timing of them is still a bit off. This is why focusing on the ensembles is still better than these OP runs. But a more phased solution is going to produce a very large storm. (like what today's Euro shows) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Nice hit for some on the 12z Euro ensembles 992mb between the BM and Ack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Euro ens came SE some .. I think this has some legs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Euro ens came SE some .. I think this has some legs Its in a very nice spot right now...but its still an eternity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Ugh. So far out, but a nice look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Still a little warm south of the pile, but it cooled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 They caved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 It sounds like we are one day out and the ensembles were the last hold out for a big event, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Its in a very nice spot right now...but its still an eternity. Yeah but it was important..at least in my eyes..to see them come south and colder. We didn't want to see them hold steady or move more amped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Yeah but it was important..at least in my eyes..to see them come south and colder. We didn't want to see them hold steady or move more amped There really isn't any room for this to move over liek BUF or something in a phased solution...so moving NW really isn't my concern. I do think it could track plenty close though...enough for ptype issues. We'll prob have to play with fire in a phased storm, but its a much higher ceiling for snowfall than a strung out sublimation delight that drops 4 inches of sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Yes I am well aware of the H5 support and the overall nuking this run would give, however it remains to be seen if it would be as fully phased and developed as the Euro would indicate. I only have access to the op run and not the ensembles, so I can't look at what they have. Anyway I suppose I am betting the streak quite a bit, but it is hard not to this year. Local terrain impacts do play a large role here as I am finding out, so shadowing is legitimate concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRSno Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Am I wrong in thinking that the ENS for the GFS, GGEM and EURO are not that far off from each other, even if the OPs are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Ugh. So far out, but a nice look. We get a spell of mild weather to get the sap flowing in advance of it. Take advantage like the rev and wash the cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Looks like happy hour GFS making a move towards the Euro solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Looks like happy hour GFS making a move towards the Euro solution Yes, incorporating more energy from the rockies into the diving northern stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Great spot right now for this one on the GFS, That is a big shift in the positive direction, It was much better out west with the energy and digging the troff further south, The drum beats are getting louder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 As of right now, Euro Op, Euro ENS, GFS OP, GEFS, CCM ENS all pretty much in agreement of a snowstorm centered at the BM. Disclaimer: does not mean I am forecasting a snowstorm just discussing the models, that is all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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