SnowNiner Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 What's all this tom foolery aboot? Snow in late March huh? I've been ready to turn the page to spring for the last 3 weeks, but the cold rain keeps hanging on in CLT. Color me VERY skeptical of a storm. Maybe a couple inches of slush that doesn't stick on the roads maybe, but I doubt we get anything else. The usual suspects like I40/mountains may get more of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxBlue Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 If my memory is correct, 0z Euro clown map isn't as good as 12z for snow lover but still few inches for Piedmont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I wonder if 10below will stop by today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLweather Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Hey super james If this snowstorm delivers like it could and is showing... do you realize that some spots may have already surpassed 09-10. But for your area and mine this could blow 09-10 out the water all with a +AO, +NAO dominated winter. If I remember correctly this area had about 18-19" that winter. From the rough measurements here... about 15.5 to 16" so far this season. Thats only about 2.5" more and it will top 99-00 and 09-10 for the snowiest season I've ever seen for mby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfan98 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Hey super james If this snowstorm delivers like it could and is showing... do you realize that some spots may have already surpassed 09-10. But for your area and mine this could blow 09-10 out the water all with a +AO, +NAO dominated winter. If I remember correctly this area had about 18-19" that winter. From the rough measurements here... about 15.5 to 16" so far this season. Thats only about 2.5" more and it will top 99-00 and 09-10 for the snowiest season I've ever seen for mby. I will remember this winter because of the cold and the number of mix events. Not one pure snow unless the next week threat holds. I'm only about 20 miles south of Greensboro, but my snow totals are are significantly less due to more sleet and freezing rain. Had about 7inches of snow/sleet during the big storm, the rest has been immeasurable, even though there were two major ice storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Greg Fishel showed the average temp for RDU for the months of December - February was only .2 below the 30 year average. That's remarkable, as it has felt like a much colder than normal winter. I would venture to say that we've had an above normal in terms of winter threats, and in some places, definitely above normal for actual snowfall totals against the 30 year average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLweather Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I will remember this winter because of the cold and the number of mix events. Not one pure snow unless the next week threat holds. I'm only about 20 miles south of Greensboro, but my snow totals are are significantly less due to more sleet and freezing rain. Had about 7inches of snow/sleet during the big storm, the rest has been immeasurable, even though there were two major ice storms. Yeah thats very true. Its like the models have been busting on the cold air aloft and alot more mixing issues than a typical winter. Seems to be the year of extreme arctic blast and sleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Hey super james If this snowstorm delivers like it could and is showing... do you realize that some spots may have already surpassed 09-10. But for your area and mine this could blow 09-10 out the water all with a +AO, +NAO dominated winter. If I remember correctly this area had about 18-19" that winter. From the rough measurements here... about 15.5 to 16" so far this season. Thats only about 2.5" more and it will top 99-00 and 09-10 for the snowiest season I've ever seen for mby. Yeah, I think GSO is officially around 16" now and I'm at around ~15" IMBY. With another decent storm, this will pass 2009-2010, which is crazy. It hasn't felt that good, but I guess it has been. 2009-2010 was more of a "complete" winter whereas this winter has been heavily backloaded from late January until now. In addition, we've had a lot more mixing issues than 2009-2010. In some ways, this winter has been better as far as impacts go, though. We didn't have any ice storms of note in 2009-2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfan98 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Yeah, I think GSO is officially around 16" now and I'm at around ~15" IMBY. With another decent storm, this will pass 2009-2010, which is crazy. It hasn't felt that good, but I guess it has been. 2009-2010 was more of a "complete" winter whereas this winter has been heavily backloaded from late January until now. In addition, we've had a lot more mixing issues than 2009-2010. In some ways, this winter has been better as far as impacts go, though. We didn't have any ice storms of note in 2009-2010. And I'm less than 10 inches for sure. Anyway James, how did the overnight EPS trend for GSO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 And I'm less than 10 inches for sure. Anyway James, how did the overnight EPS trend for GSO? Looks like the mean is 2.25" on the 00z EPS. Some members show nothing, but most members show something. More members show a "moderate" 2-6" even than a big dog type 6"+ event, though there is some support for a huge snowstorm, for sure. Not bad. RDU is about the same as GSO while CLT is around 1.3". Asheboro is about 2.1". There do seem to be some rather suppressed members. Even PGV is ~1.4". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfan98 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Looks like the mean is 2.25" on the 00z EPS. Some members show nothing, but most members show something. More members show a "moderate" 2-6" even than a big dog type 6"+ event, though there is some support for a huge snowstorm, for sure. Not bad. Thanks for the update! I guess we have a shot with any Miller A and a cold High. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 And I'm less than 10 inches for sure. Anyway James, how did the overnight EPS trend for GSO? Only a bit over 6 inches total here. A third of that was IP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfan98 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Only a bit over 6 inches total here. A third of that was IP. Sounds about right for me. The season of sleet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 LOL, about half of my 14" "snow" total is sleet, too. 3" from the 3/6-3/7 storm alone.... Looks like GSO is officially at 15.3" for the season. If we get something on 3/25, I'm going to need to slant-stick it to catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 LOL, about half of my 14" "snow" total is sleet, too. 3" from the 3/6-3/7 storm alone.... I think I picked up about 6" from two main storms here. 1" of that was probably sleet/zr. Would be nice to get half a foot of snow from a single storm. It would take that much, at least, to get to the tops of the weeds now covering my yard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 It's going to happen next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfan98 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 It's going to happen next week. Wow Brick. You are going all in with the rest of us. Do you have any particular reason for your optimism? Hope springs eternal or maybe.... Spring hopes eternal in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Wow Brick. You are going all in with the rest of us. Do you have any particular reason for your optimism? Hope springs eternal or maybe.... Spring hopes eternal in this case. Well, we have been stuck in a pattern all month of having a winter threat after a brief warm-up. I think one of those threats is bound to be a big one. And history has shown this time in March has produced some big ones. It's been a long time, so we are overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfan98 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Well, we have been stuck in a pattern all month of having a winter threat after a brief warm-up. I think one of those threats is bound to be a big one. And history has shown this time in March has produced some big ones. It's been a long time, so we are overdue. Sounds about right to me. I'm ready for an all-snow event. Forget the sleet and freezing rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Sounds about right to me. I'm ready for an all-snow event. Forget the sleet and freezing rain. I think the Euro is going to bring the big dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduwx Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I think the Euro is going to bring the big dog. I brought the big dog but unfortunately it didn't bring the cold temps for our area....LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I think the Euro is going to bring the big dog. Spring has sprung, but the grass ain't riz. I wonder where, the flowers is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suncat Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I think the Euro is going to bring the big dog. Yes! Certainly for us! Although, I'm not so sure I would want to see it this early unless it's a trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Hmmmm. In a meeting and can't see it. So is it rain this time or just "marginal" snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduwx Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Hmmmm. In a meeting and can't see it. So is it rain this time or just "marginal" snow? Very close for us...During the heaviest precip the 850 line looks to be right at the Wake County and Durham County line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Very close for us...During the heaviest precip the 850 line looks to be right at the Wake County and Durham County line. Nice! Right on the boundary again. If I was Packfan, ncweathern, superjames, jburns, and folks in those areas, I'd feel pretty decent right about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnc910 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 i wouldn't get caught up in the fine details at this points.. as the trough has to establish itself first before determining the track at this point and i'm guessing the saturday and sunday time frame will be the telling tale..also with the trough building in there will likely be a se trend instead of a nw trend as we have seen in january and febuary with all the potential from sunday night.. tuesday night and the models are hinting at a possible clipper system coming through... with all that cold around and moisture i'm sure some people will see frozen precip further east than the last couple of systems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfan98 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Nice! Right on the boundary again. If I was Packfan, ncweathern, superjames, jburns, and folks in those areas, I'd feel pretty decent right about now. Hard to ever feel confident in the south, especially in Spring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLweather Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Nice! Right on the boundary again. If I was Packfan, ncweathern, superjames, jburns, and folks in those areas, I'd feel pretty decent right about now. Thats true. Its going to snow. But just like all winter the models have underestimated the warm noses IMO. With the line right on the Wake/Durham counties line I just know its going to be snow>pingerfest>snow here and into the triad. But I guess ip is ice too but I'd perfer the naturally shaved ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 It's going to be cold enough for snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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