IsentropicLift Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 This storm is a lot of woulda coulda shoulda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD0815 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 This storm is a lot of woulda coulda shoulda The important thing to realize though is that the storm has not happened yet. Just like it will end up disappointing someone, there will be an area that overperforms, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRain Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Because there is much more and better data. Very few planes fly through the storm that provide data back to the models, while there is very good depth and quantity of information coming from many, many, land weather stations. I believe there are numerous data buoys just off the coast lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 2nd low is a big hit mid-Atlantic We need to hope for a wetter first part. Sunday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The biggest issue with this system is lack of a single consolidated piece of energy. So the first slug comes through, drags the boundary south and the 2nd wave can't lift high enough. One better organized low could have potentially really been a nice storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblizz44 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Steve d also busted badly on 2/6/10 bring 5-10" up to bergen county Interesting point- wasnt aware of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monmouthcounty11 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Definitely further south 12z, this run is not very good even for areas in this area to the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The biggest issue with this system is lack of a single consolidated piece of energy. So the first slug comes through, drags the boundary south and the 2nd wave can't lift high enough. One better organized low could have potentially really been a nice storm. yep, once it went to a 2 wave system, it crapped the bed for areas further north...with that said, nice to see the 1st wave beefing up since that's our only hope here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The biggest issue with this system is lack of a single consolidated piece of energy. So the first slug comes through, drags the boundary south and the 2nd wave can't lift high enough. One better organized low could have potentially really been a nice storm.My sentiments exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The biggest issue with this system is lack of a single consolidated piece of energy. So the first slug comes through, drags the boundary south and the 2nd wave can't lift high enough. One better organized low could have potentially really been a nice storm.The timing on this one just isn't right for the northeast. Great for mid Atlantic as the weak waves don't torch them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Interesting point- wasnt aware of that. Yep he was going off the precip getting further north in central PA and brought the big amounts into north nj/se NY. Even did a radio show that night. Not bashing but it was a pretty big bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 NAM is under 0.50" unless you're well south of NYC, all from the first wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossi Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 NAM is under 0.50" unless you're well south of NYC, all from the first wave. Can you be more specific? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monmouthcounty11 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Whoever mentioned the band of nothing going from Philadelphia through Central NJ, the NAM has it perfectly. There is a large area from South Central PA all the way to the Central NJ coast where there is almost nothing in terms of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SNfreak21 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Lke March 5, 2001, March 6, 2013, good analogs for busting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder7842 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 So it's looking like a 2 to 4 inch snowfall sunday night, and then nothing on Monday? Well, that's better than nothing. We've had plenty of big storms this winter. 2 to 4 is a nice little event, and it will be very cold after the storm so little melting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulen Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The storm right now doesn't look to impressive on radar and my arthritis is kicking butt,ma nature gonna do something more to be revealed.Ole man winter is spreading the wealth all over the place ,The weather can be humbling you new guys are lucky we used to share one forum for the whole country, talk about sore losers completely hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The NAM has that sneak frontogenetical appearance to the snow band tomorrow night, still think someone gets hit hard with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchel Volk Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Pretty close and pretty dicey any shift in any direction will make a huge difference. In addition now the first wave has a decent amount of QPF that may put down several inches Sunday. For Monday it will be wait and see how strong the second wave is. At this point it is just to the south, but we need to focus on the two short waves and see if the northern one tries to phase a little with the southern one, any little change will make a big difference in more or less snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The NAM has that sneak frontogenetical appearance to the snow band tomorrow night, still think someone gets hit hard with that. where do you think that sets up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYY_2 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Pretty close and pretty dicey any shift in any direction will make a huge difference. In addition now the first wave has a decent amount of QPF that may put down several inches Sunday. For Monday it will be wait and see how strong the second wave is. At this point it is just to the south, but we need to focus on the two short waves and see if the northern one tries to phase a little with the southern one, any little change will make a big difference in more or less snow. Compared to the previous NAM run, was this more south or north? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Can you be more specific?Monmouth County is 0.50 plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossi Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Monmouth County is 0.50 plus. Consistent still think we are 6 to 8 down here despite euro. Any move of 25 to 50 mile willl make a large difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Jerry is a friend here too, let us deal with our own problem children...we both know how certain other subforums react to "outsiders" voicing their opinions on certain members. Agree! Just yesterday a poster was saying rain to NYC..sleet south coast and how far north the heavy snows get in that sub forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overcast Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Dave, police the douchiness in your own forum first, please. Really. . There was no reason for him to talk to Jerry like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Really. . There was no reason for him to talk to Jerry like that. It was a horrible post and with bad taste. That being said your forum has it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAMSTORM22 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Regardless of trends either way...lets not forget this is the NAM beyond 6 hrs...no really im serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monmouthcounty11 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Consistent still think we are 6 to 8 down here despite euro. Any move of 25 to 50 mile willl make a large difference The precip that falls for MC is mainly a mix from the front end courtesy of the NAM, almost no snow for Monmouth and less than .5 until you get to Ocean County or right at the border, it's the 18z NAM though so who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelocita Weather Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Toughie...Dca gets 1.25 or so qpf...but they are the northern edge of the meat of the second wave snows...they get a lot of rain/mix from the 1st...and looks to about .5 - .75 snow from the 2nd...up here it looks all about the first wave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Agree! Just yesterday a poster was saying rain to NYC..sleet south coast and how far north the heavy snows get in that sub forumOne poster does not make a forum. Enough already, nobody in New England is trying to take snow away from NYC, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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