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March Madness 03/03/2014 -------> The EURO abides


winterymix

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Yup... 06z GFS and 06z NAM were frozen respectively.  06z NAM was a snowstorm like the 00z GGEM it would appear.  I believe everyone is hyping up the warmth too much.  Yes, we will be warm on Sunday before the arctic air comes in.  Yes, we might break 50 degrees.  But this arctic hair will be coming in fast and hard... and even though we may start as a few hours of light rain, transition to frozen should be quick overnight Sunday into early Mon morning

 

The 6z GFS was an absolute monstrosity for me and you....there is no sugarcoating it and it is the latest piece of global guidance we have...

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I want to give a warning here before the 12z data starts piling into the thread. Despite the raw mid-level temperatures and no matter which model, the 850mb circulation goes from WV to E PA. If not for the VVs, a lot of people would be warmer. Therefore, in between 3hr panels or at times of lighter precip, if your 850mb +/- 100mb are southerly, I'd expect mixing. I'm suggesting this even up here toward NYC area.

So what might look like a warmer or cooler trend today with the "lines" might just be the model showing a time of better VVs or weaker VVs.

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It won't be 60. I was just stating that if it did it wouldn't matter. Could get to the low 50's but guidance as a whole says 40's for most everyone

 

     I wouldn't discount temps getting well into the 50's here Sunday like several NAM runs in a row have shown.

  We've gotten very warm ahead of some strong fronts in past weeks, and MOS isn't going to handle this type of

  very sharp boundary well.    Maybe we do stay too cloudy or have some early drizzle which keeps us stuck in the

  40's, but if the southerly flow gets going early and we're not socked in with low clouds, I don't rule out a very mild day.

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I wouldn't discount temps getting well into the 50's here Sunday like several NAM runs in a row have shown.

We've gotten very warm ahead of some strong fronts in past weeks, and MOS isn't going to handle this type of

very sharp boundary well. Maybe we do stay too cloudy or have some early drizzle which keeps us stuck in the

40's, but if the southerly flow gets going early and we're not socked in with low clouds, I don't rule out a very mild day.

I'm not discounting it. I should probably expect it. But even so it doesn't worry me much. I never expected this to be a snowstorm for us. Hasn't really been in the cards for us except for one euro/ens run but it was fleeting. I kinda expected that too.

I've never been worried about roads too much either. I just want some sort of solid event. If we get a glaze followed by sleet and some snow I'll be happy. Things really don't get going precip wise until the wee hours on monday. If the boundary and cold feed makes it south like guidance says then we'll be below freezing before sunrise even with highs in the mid-upper 50's the day before.

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The writing is on the wall with this one for DC....warm, followed by some light rain, then maybe a period of non-accumuating "ice", ending as a brief period of sleet/snow...and dry...all the good precip to the north....

 

you are welcome to come up here for the sleet fest :)

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I'm not discounting it. I should probably expect it. But even so it doesn't worry me much. I never expected this to be a snowstorm for us. Hasn't really been in the cards for us except for one euro/ens run but it was fleeting. I kinda expected that too.

I've never been worried about roads too much either. I just want some sort of solid event. If we get a glaze followed by sleet and some snow I'll be happy. Things really don't get going precip wise until the wee hours on monday. If the boundary and cold feed makes it south like guidance says then we'll be below freezing before sunrise even with highs in the mid-upper 50's the day before.

 

      I agree with all of this.    I was just responding to the idea that it can't get very warm here Sunday.   With this type of

  intense arctic boundary, I agree that it's not impossible to be well into the 50's Sunday afternoon and be into the 20's

  by 9Z the next morning.     I also agree that how much frozen precip falls/sticks Monday won't be affected too much by how

  warm it gets Sunday.

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The writing is on the wall with this one for DC....warm, followed by some light rain, then maybe a period of non-accumuating "ice", ending as a brief period of sleet/snow...and dry...all the good precip to the north....

I don't think the writing is on the wall as a non event. We're still wobbling. And yes, 6z was a bad step but the euro last night and ensembles are fine. If it craps the bed in a few hours then expectations can be adjusted. I know you didn't buy into 12z euro yesterday. Solutions that are too good to be true usually are.

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