IsentropicLift Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Bit of a break mid day on the Euro, just like the GFS, looks like we'll be in the prime target area for the second wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Can we please keep this about the model discussion only? Thanks in advance. Take the bickering to the other thread or the banter thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 welcome to the march 2-4 banter thread paul.... This isn't banter IMO. This is 2 smart guys having a discussion (maybe a slightly heated one lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monmouth_County_Jacpot Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Chris , this is going to be a cold storm at the surface , You prob don`t see 12 inches of snow accumulate on 6th and 57 in the city, ( BUT MOST ON THE BOARD WILL ) this is going to be a widespread Snow event . NYC UHI should not be the measuring stick for this. silly question but does Brooklyn have uhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 ULL is a little farther N so it may end up being a tad warmer this run, should be good for NYC though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Light to moderate snow moving in Sunday late afternoon and evening just like the GFS. Looking great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Hr 108 light rain in the area. Surface and 850's just north of I-80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 The back end energy is noticeably stronger and more consolidated than the GFS. Thinking shorter duration but heavier snow for Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Even if this ends up being warmer don't panic, just need a bit better confluence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Hr 108 light rain in the area. Surface and 850's just north of I-80 That doesn't quantify as light rain for the area. By the next panel it's all snow from I-80 north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Light to moderate snow moving in Sunday late afternoon and evening just like the GFS. Looking great. That's not snow for anyone on the coast and south of I-80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 It's only rain to start for the I-78 area and points south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 That's not snow for anyone on the coast and south of I-80 You said for the area, you need to be more specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Hr 120 is pretty warm...rain from NYC south. Ice for northern areas. Everything is further north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Hour 120 is freezing rain for the I-80 corridor. Rain south and east of the city. Snow LHV and SNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 the north trend is always a worry with these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Surface temps were near 40 for most people on the 0z Euro and people bugged when I said "hr 114 light rain". It quickly cooled on the next frame and we were seeing snow. What are surface temps at the start this run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Lol this turned into a terrible thread of arguing. My stance as I said.....this will trend less snowy and warmer in time. But of course I'm hoping it doesn't Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 A lot of the GFS ensembles showed a similar evolution...I mentioned this earlier Yanks, EURO follows route...Need the shortwave out west to slow down and the ULL in Canada to be farther south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 It's only rain to start for the I-78 area and points south. Hr 120 is frz rain up to hpn. Surface around I-80 and 850s north of hpn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Broad low pressure is stretched right a long the spine of the Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 mixing makes it all the way to ORH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Hr 126 warm. Rain from hpn-south. Upstate my and western pa crushed. Ignore yanks pbp it's further north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Huge hit for the interior, NNJ is taint, coast is rain. Big hit for New England. City south probably dry slotted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 See where the low is Yanks??? Thats where a lot of the GFS ensembles showed as well which is why I noted a lot were warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 we pretty much get nothing in terms of snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Hr 126 warm. Rain from hpn-south. Upstate my and western pa crushed. Ignore yanks pbp it's further north The surface freezing line is over KMMU, that's not plain rain north of I-80 unless you're on the GWB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 the north trend is always a worry with theseits one run not a trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 we pretty much get nothing in terms of snow Yuo. Warm run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Hr 132 temps crash. Snow. Obv don't kno when the change occurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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