Ottawa Blizzard Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Way to go dude! "We could smash the record, you never know". I second that. Congrats man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 HRRR nooooooooo Probably going to be off by 10 degrees except in the valleys in Central and Northern MI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 HRRR nooooooooo for the lols That IS the LOLZ.. Would not only shatter the monthly record ( -11 ) but come very close to the all time record for coldest ever here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Jerry Taft taking a shot at Brant Miller. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-jerry-taft-brant-miller-tweet-20140312,0,6392727.story Kind of a low blow. I'm surprised that Taft would do something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Way to go dude! "We could smash the record, you never know". That is awesome! Way to go Josh. --- Lol at that HRRR map! 16° here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Way to go dude! "We could smash the record, you never know". Yes Josh! Good job. By the way, I noticed the slant sticking you were doing on camera. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Jerry Taft taking a shot at Brant Miller. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-jerry-taft-brant-miller-tweet-20140312,0,6392727.story they would fit in well here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Hit 11° here this morning. Should have no problem hitting between 35-40° today, especially over bare ground areas. --- Josh is going to become the most famous snow measuring guy in history! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Yes Josh! Good job. By the way, I noticed the slant sticking you were doing on camera. lol Thanks! Never really discussed it here as we are under contract and didnt know the rules and what not (a lot of first order sites do this now (I believe it started a decade ago but is getting more common?). Often times the regular observers weather observers cant leave the terminal and the FAA are basically jerks who do not want to help out by measuring snow (which also explains the crappy lowball observations many stations had roughly in the 1995-2005 period). But as for slant sticking mister ... it was basically done that way for media/show. For one, the area where snow is measured is on private property which didnt allow media/camera access...the video was shot on the other side of the fence. Thats generally where snow depth readings are done because its the most uniform area for snow depth (and this winter, I use the term "uniform" loosely). The other two sections, one is always way too high and one way too low. Basically when our average depths were in the 18-20" range in Feb, it was closer to just 12" in that low area and closer to 30" in that high area. And yes, I would be lying if I didnt admit to doing some walking in the 3 foot areas But I digress. For two, the media has been hounding the nws for 2 days to do stories on the near record breaking snow (you know the rules, one news station has the idea the other 2 have to follow like puppies). They want you to explain how things are done, they asked a lot of questions and were all very nice, but as you would expect...they want the public to get the most watered down, non-technical version of everything. I explained to them I couldnt show them snowboard techniques because the snowboard was on the other side of the fence where we measure, but I showed them what a snowboard is and said this is where you can do snow depth readings. So they wanted me to keep sticking the snow stick in the ground for video lol. Conditions were brutal with the wind/snow STINGING my face so yes...Id prefer an indoors spot for my next TV appearance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 BTW...after yesterdays daily record snow of 6.6", Detroit broke this mornings 1896 record low (5F) by dropping to 3F. Its almost comical how the records are just falling like dominoes this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Lake Michigan ice as it stood yesterday afternoon. Some big chunks along the MI shoreline, but nothing much to the western shoreline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelakeroy Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Lake Michigan ice as it stood yesterday afternoon. Some big chunks along the MI shoreline, but nothing much to the western shoreline. It was pretty awesome to watch these major storms free up areas ice covered on Lake MI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisale Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Lake Michigan ice as it stood yesterday afternoon. Some big chunks along the MI shoreline, but nothing much to the western shoreline. lakeMI_ice2.png Impressive. Does a lot of this ice end up onshore or simply melt back into the lake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Impressive. Does a lot of this ice end up onshore or simply melt back into the lake? Not a whole lot usually. This winter was a bit different though. The mounds of ice attracted people to the shoreline, which wasn't always a good thing. Most of it does end up swept back into the lake and melted away by waves washing ashore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Recapping where we are at to-date in the general SE MI/NW OH region Detroit: #2 at 90.7" so far (record 93.6" in 1880-81)...records since 1880 Toledo: #1 at 84.8" so far (old record 73.1")...records since 1885Ann Arbor: #1 at 92.2" so far (old record 89.8")...records since 1880 Flint: #3 at 81.8" so far (record 82.9")...records since 1921 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Cloudy now, even a few flurries in Racine, but sun is making a comeback soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Warming above freezing as WAA really kicks in with the sunshine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtrackertf Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Not sure where else to put this but...anyone know why the NWS changed the color for freeze warnings on their maps? Was confused to see a bunch of dark purple over GA/SC today randomly. Normally that would be turquoise or whatever you'd call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Snow pretty much gone now. Just a few patches left in the shade, and obviously the big piles. Hit 47 today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Around 35° right now with steady SW winds. Grid forecast has the temps rising all night - should be near 42° by sunrise. Should have a crack at 50° tomorrow with just snow patches around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Around 35° right now with steady SW winds. Grid forecast has the temps rising all night - should be near 42° by sunrise. Should have a crack at 50° tomorrow with just snow patches around. Must have a lot more snow here. There are a lot of yards now with grass showing (sun facing), but in the shadows there is still plenty of snow. I was hiking and the north sides of the bluffs are full/south facing slopes have almost nothing. My north facing roof should be snow free by tomorrow (just a thin strip left). The Mississippi River rose a foot in a day, so a ton of melt is hitting the river. 43F here today...early was a little chilly/windy...but afternoon was great. Tomorrow looks like a repeat, except hurricane winds. Next week looks blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 Must have a lot more snow here. There are a lot of yards now with grass showing (sun facing), but in the shadows there is still plenty of snow. I was hiking and the north sides of the bluffs are full/south facing slopes have almost nothing. My north facing roof should be snow free by tomorrow (just a thin strip left). The Mississippi River rose a foot in a day, so a ton of melt is hitting the river. 43F here today...early was a little chilly/windy...but afternoon was great. Tomorrow looks like a repeat, except hurricane winds. Next week looks blah. It's kind of strange, the forests that are not evergreens and are more sun filled have more snow. But around evergreens the snow is completely gone - both under the trees and around them. Actually it's not that strange - the dark green absorbs more rays during the day. Windy and exposed areas are the prime areas where the snow has mostly melted out. In fact before it got cold yesterday afternoon there was mud to be had in sunny places. Temp leveled off here and should start rising soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 tons of snow and glacier here yet we have 65" less snow than UGN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 tons of snow and glacier here yet we have 65" less snow than UGN. Definitely sounds different than down here and even near Racine. Yet MKE says the snow cover streak ended yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Definitely sounds different than down here and even near Racine. Yet MKE says the snow cover streak ended yesterday. How do they measure snow coverR? Shouldn't that be when the last of the parking lot glaciers disappear? Some of the farm fields around here are showing bare spots, but the woods still have a ton. Conifers must absorb a ton of heat. I've noticed the same thing around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radioman Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 whos interested in doing a $25 buy in fantasy baseball league on here? Would own you guys so bad. Would be nice if we could get maybe 8-10 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 DLL - MIsnowfreak will tell you that snow cover means that 50%+ of x amount of area necessary. My yard is about 40% covered. Personally I go by how much is left in the neighborhood (about a 5 block area) as a whole and I would say that's about the same percentage. If I were to expand that area to say 1/4 mile and include the closest 2 fields to my location I would say it's closer to 30%. After tomorrow it will probably be close to 25%. A lot of areas between BowMe and here it is already in that 25% percentage range. Few pictures from today along the lake in Kenosha and one of the Des Plaines River. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Went to the park to take some practice shots with my new camera. I love it, and the zoom is amazing. It was a very BRIGHT day with blue skies and white snow. Utilizing 26X zoom...this is a shot taken from Elizabeth Park in Trenton looking clear across the Detroit River onto Grosse Ile. I couldnt even see what it looked like til I saw the pic, and noticed a swan lol I like this pic because in the footprint you can see the difference between fresh snow and ancient snow lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 How do they measure snow coverR? Shouldn't that be when the last of the parking lot glaciers disappear? Some of the farm fields around here are showing bare spots, but the woods still have a ton. Conifers must absorb a ton of heat. I've noticed the same thing around here. Snow cover is the average amount of "natural" snow on the ground in the general area obs are taken. Its almost always an average as snow varies (this winter with so many snowstorms and windstorms its been EXTREMELY variable here), but you wouldnt be including things like man-made snow piles or areas that are influenced by concrete, road salt, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 It's kind of strange, the forests that are not evergreens and are more sun filled have more snow. But around evergreens the snow is completely gone - both under the trees and around them. Actually it's not that strange - the dark green absorbs more rays during the day. Windy and exposed areas are the prime areas where the snow has mostly melted out. In fact before it got cold yesterday afternoon there was mud to be had in sunny places. Temp leveled off here and should start rising soon. could also be that less snow makes it thru the evergreens and onto the ground...so less accumulation under evergreen trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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