weatherbo Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 sassing aside, you have like 2 solid months of winter remaining for big dogsYou're right about that, in 2012 a heavy wet snow of 21" hit overnight in March ( 3rd or 4th I think ). That said, it would only be adding to seasonal total stats which is all I'm looking for at this point. Any snow that falls this time of year can be wiped away with 2 days of sun and 25 degrees. The snow that is on the ground now will be what last into Spring. First Semester of Winter, A+.... Couldn't have been any better. Second Semester, too cold, freezing the lake up. If this would have been a tad more moderate Winter and LE lingered more.... an Epic Winter. B+ at this point is fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 nightmare on the gfs, deep cold, rain storm, deep cold wash, rinse, repeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 nightmare on the gfs, deep cold, rain storm, deep cold wash, rinse, repeat huh? 3-5" on Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 huh? 3-5" on Monday talking about the long range and i'm done with 3-5" events for the season but that's OT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJSnowLover Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 nightmare on the gfs, deep cold, rain storm, deep cold wash, rinse, repeat I could easily counter that by saying the 00z Euro control had good snow here over the next 15 days. But we both know it's too early to start painting either picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 nightmare on the gfs, deep cold, rain storm, deep cold wash, rinse, repeat Well hopefully will get rid of the remaining snow then. EURO has a cold rain storm as well for the second. This snow pack isn't worth keeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baum Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 nightmare on the gfs, deep cold, rain storm, deep cold wash, rinse, repeat If that happens I'll give you props. Better chance will enter march madness time frame chasing snow records. Btw..no follow up on the quad cities mega pattern change that should be in effect now. Poor guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Btw..no follow up on the quad cities mega pattern change that should be in effect now. Poor guy. worst call in years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baum Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 At least the days are longer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 worst call in years It was too easy to joke with even when they made the call. It was the worst case of hugging a 384hr model I have seen from NWS employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Long range actually looks worse and worse (besides the lake cutter) for cold. That lake cutter will take a completely different track when it actually happens, could be more 500 miles NW or SE of its current depiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 talking about the long range and i'm done with 3-5" events for the season but that's OT snob worst call in years reminiscent of JB's December 2000 calls for January 2001 to be the coldest on record in the east....and ending up with record warmth instead. Insult to injury was his excuse that he nailed it at 500mb but the surface didn't cooperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baum Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 snob reminiscent of JB's December 2000 calls for January 2001 to be the coldest on record in the east....and ending up with record warmth instead. Insult to injury was his excuse that he nailed it at 500mb but the surface didn't cooperate. Yup. Remember it well. But joe is going to ride this winter for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 It was too easy to joke with even when they made the call. It was the worst case of hugging a 384hr model I have seen from NWS employees. Davenport used the 384 hour forecast? To do what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 snob reminiscent of JB's December 2000 calls for January 2001 to be the coldest on record in the east....and ending up with record warmth instead. Insult to injury was his excuse that he nailed it at 500mb but the surface didn't cooperate. January 2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torchageddon Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 June will be sweet. Most June's are sweet since its the best month of the year in my view, June 2013 wasn't that great though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 January 2001 january 2001 temp anomalies.png I think I got the years wrong. JB's call in December 2001 for January 2002, (I think that was the near record warmth January for the east). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Next week Thursday is forecasted to DESTROY record low temps through much of the Midwest. The current forecast has the record low beat in Detroit by maybe more than 10-15 degrees on two separate days! Friday Feb 28th record in Detroit is 10F? Lansing is -18F. What am I missing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Davenport used the 384 hour forecast? To do what? Well, who knows what they were looking at. It was a very unusual discussion. There is a now infamous AFD from DVN about a major pattern change that we are now seeing will verify as the complete opposite. One met mentioned the pattern signal as the biggest he has seen in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvsnow Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 ...and he added insult to injury by saying it may well last for months and months! He said it was a complete change in the pattern! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvsnow Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 The flip was in the Pacific...he said he had never seen anything like the complete change in the Pacific that was coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 18z GFS showed the Arctic air bookin' it by March 6th. ...I think the change occurs before JB thinks it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 18z GFS showed the Arctic air bookin' it by March 6th. ...I think the change occurs before JB thinks it will. He'll likely say that the GFS is breaking the cold too early, as it has much of this winter. Recall the meltdown I had in mid January when it showed late January being a torch. Look at what verified instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 He'll likely say that the GFS is breaking the cold too early, as it has much of this winter. Recall the meltdown I had in mid January when it showed late January being a torch. Look at what verified instead. The difference this time though is; it will be March and the snow cover isn't as extensive. But up over your way I could see it hanging around longer. Let's see if any support grows with that run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 0z GFS shows the March 3rd storm as a western Lakes cutter. Possible secondary wave further south along the cold front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Just diving into some records for March since the forecast high and low for Friday the 28th is 10/-4, both of these values would be records for the month of March if they were to occur in March. I do expect Saturday next weekend to remain cold, maybe not as cold at 10 for a high though it is early to make that call at this junction. However I do think there is a very real chance of breaking the all time record low for the month of March, which is -4 set back in 1978 and 2003. I wouldn't even be shocked if we beat that value by a decent margin as Saturday does look to remain very cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Next week Thursday is forecasted to DESTROY record low temps through much of the Midwest. The current forecast has the record low beat in Detroit by maybe more than 10-15 degrees on two separate days! Friday Feb 28th record in Detroit is 10F? Lansing is -18F. What am I missing here. Feb 28th's record is -1 set back in 1994 http://www.crh.noaa.gov/dtx/display_climate.php?file=records_DTW_Feb_inc.htm . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baum Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 18z GFS showed the Arctic air bookin' it by March 6th. ...I think the change occurs before JB thinks it will. I think you better stick with JB this year. It's going to break at some point, and he will be cold when it goes warm but he's stood stout and been right nearly always this year. Granted, when all you do is ride the cold train your going to have a good seasonal forecast when it's cold. Although , he does have some pretty skilled people surrounding him. Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I think you better stick with JB this year. It's going to break at some point, and he will be cold when it goes warm but he's stood stout and been right nearly always this year. Granted, when all you do is ride the cold train your going to have a good seasonal forecast when it's cold. Although , he does have some pretty skilled people surrounding him. Y A broken clock is right twice a day, this just happens to be that time of day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baum Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 A broken clock is right twice a day, this just happens to be that time of day. Agreed. But I do think March will be cold and active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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