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Central PA & The Fringes - February 2014 Pt. VI


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  On 2/28/2014 at 1:33 AM, Superstorm93 said:

CTP must be looking at something that we don't have access to. GFS and ECMWF both nail the southern regions with the most snow. 

 

Ah well. Looks like they'll be playing catch-up the entire time. 

 

They use GEFS at this range all the time, which is still north of OP and euro. 

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  On 2/28/2014 at 1:33 AM, Superstorm93 said:

Not sure what CTP is looking at. GFS and ECMWF both nail the southern regions with the most snow. Even their precious GFS ens are a crush-job north of the M/D line.

Ah well. Looks like they'll be playing catch-up the entire time.

Why?

Were still 3 days away and nothing is set in stone yet...

Also schools are on a two hour delay tomorrow.

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  On 2/28/2014 at 2:00 AM, JamieOber said:

From Tombo over on PhillyWx on Euro weeklies:

 

"My weeklies aren't updating for some reason yet. But from what I have heard they lock the trof in the east pretty much the whole month."

 

Ya it's cold. We are talking 20 degrees below normal on average for the month. 

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  On 2/28/2014 at 2:03 AM, Superstorm93 said:

18z GFS-ENS-BC looks pretty impressive.

 

Anyway, system is bombing out off of California. 

 

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Looks like one of those classic coast to coast bowling ball storms. Whatever latitude the low rolls in at on the west coast is likely around where it's going to be exiting the east coast at. 

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  On 2/28/2014 at 2:17 AM, EasternUSWX said:

Ya it's cold. We are talking 20 degrees below normal on average for the month. 

 

Pathetic. For the first time in my life I've had to use the credit card to buy oil instead of using a check. I've had to fill-up nearly twice as often as usual, meaing instead of paying $600 every 2 months, this year it's been $600 each month. I mean really...this HAS to break at some point, doesn't it? I can't afford much more...

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  On 2/28/2014 at 12:27 AM, JamieOber said:

6.5 here...sheesh.

 

I had previously read a few weeks ago, I think it was Paul Pastelok from AccuWx speculating on the impact of the primarily frozen lakes with regards to our low temps which I def agree with. Basically with the lakes virtually frozen over (88% as of mid February), we're seeing little to no modification of these cold air masses from Canada... and thus our temperatures have been diving below zero on a regular basis this winter. Makes me wonder what kind of temps we see in the wake of this coming storm if it lays down a fresh deep snow pack. Those insane low temps the GFS has cranked out from time to time might not be that far off. 

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The NAM never ceases to amaze me... We would all be hugging it ATM though if it showed wave 1 a bit colder/se and wave 2 further north... But I dont think you can get both. GGEM from a few days ago maybe would be a "perfect storm"...

Either way not taking it seriously unless GFS looks similar...

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  On 2/28/2014 at 2:34 AM, MAG5035 said:

I had previously read a few weeks ago, I think it was Paul Pastelok from AccuWx speculating on the impact of the primarily frozen lakes with regards to our low temps which I def agree with. Basically with the lakes virtually frozen over (88% as of mid February), we're seeing little to no modification of these cold air masses from Canada... and thus our temperatures have been diving below zero on a regular basis this winter. Makes me wonder what kind of temps we see in the wake of this coming storm if it lays down a fresh deep snow pack. Those insane low temps the GFS has cranked out from time to time might not be that far off. 

One solid night of radiational cooling next week and we might have a shot.  What's the coldest temp State College has ever recorded in March?

 

Currently 4° and windy here...really awful.

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  On 2/28/2014 at 2:50 AM, Blizzard96x said:

The NAM never ceases to amaze me... We would all be hugging it ATM though if it showed wave 1 a bit colder/se and wave 2 further north... But I dont think you can get both. GGEM from a few days ago maybe would be a "perfect storm"...

Either way not taking it seriously unless GFS looks similar...

Qpf always overdone doesn't matter
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  On 2/28/2014 at 2:47 AM, canderson said:

I just had to wal 8 blocks.

Holy mother of god IT IS COLD. And the wind blowing 20+ doesn't exactly warm things up.

 

I was walking around midtown earlier as well. I swear it feels colder out there tonight than during the January outbreaks.

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  On 2/28/2014 at 2:23 AM, MAG5035 said:

Looks like one of those classic coast to coast bowling ball storms. Whatever latitude the low rolls in at on the west coast is likely around where it's going to be exiting the east coast at. 

 

I guess right now it looks like it exits at Newport News?

 

  On 2/28/2014 at 2:34 AM, MAG5035 said:

I had previously read a few weeks ago, I think it was Paul Pastelok from AccuWx speculating on the impact of the primarily frozen lakes with regards to our low temps which I def agree with. Basically with the lakes virtually frozen over (88% as of mid February), we're seeing little to no modification of these cold air masses from Canada... and thus our temperatures have been diving below zero on a regular basis this winter. Makes me wonder what kind of temps we see in the wake of this coming storm if it lays down a fresh deep snow pack. Those insane low temps the GFS has cranked out from time to time might not be that far off. 

It's freaking 2.8 at 10:05 pm on Feb 27...crazy stuff.

 

I heard that about the lake's temp effect. I've also heard that it could make it colder in spring because the ice will be slower to go away. I mean, Erie is going to be next to a giant icebox for a while this spring.

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  On 2/28/2014 at 3:15 AM, PSUHazletonWx said:

Isn't anyone the slightest bit concerned that a usually amped model is so far south?

 

My worry with this has been suppression right from the start, and the trend right now is south.

 

The NAM? No. It takes too much energy with it amped Sunday afternoon and screws up storm two. 

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  On 2/28/2014 at 3:41 AM, paweather5 said:

Cant wait to see this lets take some bets, they will have 15 to 20 inches.

S&S Storm Chasing and Forecasting Team

3 hours ago

We expect to have our first call map out by 11 p.m. For this weekend's storm. #Brad

Say what you will but they have been pretty spit on this winter. Like it or not.
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