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February 12-13 Storm IV, Model Discussion


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Sounds epic…I think a general 6-10" for most of us by 7-8am looks pretty good.  I think some spots see 12-14" if they're lucky enough to catch the mesoscale bands.  Snow ratios tonight will be pretty good by our standards (12:1 on average?) and we should have some rocking omegas and snow crystal growth.  

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People have to understand that the snowfall maps are just that snow that fall... that will not be what is on the ground when the storm finishes.

 

Yes, but they do a good job showing where precip maxes will be as long as you take the column into consideration. These maps are 10-1 too. Overnight could be 12-1 easily for some folks. Same with the deform. Verbatim I think the snowmaps are actually kind of accurate for many people this go around. Who knows if the run verifies. 

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Yes, but they do a good job showing where precip maxes will be as long as you take the column into consideration. These maps are 10-1 too. Overnight could be 12-1 easily for some folks. Same with the deform. Verbatim I think the snowmaps are actually kind of accurate for many people this go around. Who knows if the run verifies. 

yeah, out west it's probably close if it happens that way. models also often underdo precip in banding.. so to see widespread 1.5-2" liquid is a big signal for someone getting to around 20-24"+ imo.   

 

im not sold on the duration etc yet tho. 

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People have to understand that the snowfall maps are just that snow that fall... that will not be what is on the ground when the storm finishes.

 

Right, as it sits on the ground the dendrites will fluff up, turning 10:1 to 12:1 or even 14:1.  Noticed that during 2009/2010.

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yeah, out west it's probably close if it happens that way. models also often underdo precip in banding.. so to see widespread 1.5-2" liquid is a big signal for someone getting to around 20-24"+ imo.   

 

im not sold on the duration etc yet tho. 

 

No doubt. It's a lock there will be some intense banding overnight. No way the resolution of a global will nail that. It's not supposed to of course. 

 

I would like to see the deform work more NE as the storm pulls away. Verbatim it sorta fizzles and slides due north. We'll know tomorrow. I don't think anybody west of the bay will be unhappy with this storm. 

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I used the ggem, wish I had seen the euro when I wrote the piece. Would have been awesome.  In reality, it's still early to try to pinpoint a deformation band. 

 

I always like seeing you get hit over there. My best friend lives in Ches Beach and he's a snow nut too. 

 

Any thoughts on the deform or is it a total wait and see?

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NWS' point and click has Baltimore at 3-6 now. Are they seeing something in the models to drop totals that low?

everyone's scurred of the mix.. though dropping is really dangerous given the front end. 

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