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February 12-13 Storm IV, Model Discussion


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  On 2/13/2014 at 7:55 PM, terpsnation said:

How much of that precip that the NAM has falling around D.C. proper is going to be a result of the incoming line from RIC?

 

I'd love for that to be snow, but I have the feeling its just going to be all rain.

 

Not sure why you have that feeling. 850's drop to below -3 by 7pm. Decent rates will be snow. Look at the mid levels. 

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  On 2/13/2014 at 7:58 PM, Always in Zugzwang said:

About getting close to "game time" for the 2nd round (extra innings, OT, whatever analogy you want!)?

It seems the sentiment is now rain with everyone so not much game perhaps...I thought we were all stoked just an hour ago

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  On 2/13/2014 at 8:00 PM, Bob Chill said:

Not sure why you have that feeling. 850's drop to below -3 by 7pm. Decent rates will be snow. Look at the mid levels. 

 

Good point - but isn't it really a question of timing?  The band to our south looks like it's rapidly approaching and should reach D.C. by 4:30 - 5ish.  Do we think the 850s will have dropped enough by that time so that rates will overcome the ground temps?

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  On 2/13/2014 at 8:04 PM, terpsnation said:

Good point - but isn't it really a question of timing?  The band to our south looks like it's rapidly approaching and should reach D.C. by 4:30 - 5ish.  Do we think the 850s will have dropped enough by that time so that rates will overcome the ground temps?

The ground is covered with snow so that shouldn't be a problem.

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  On 2/13/2014 at 8:00 PM, Bob Chill said:

Not sure why you have that feeling. 850's drop to below -3 by 7pm. Decent rates will be snow. Look at the mid levels. 

 

That's what I was thinking, looking at the mid-levels.  I'm not sure why some of these comments in here.  It's cooling off now, especially at those levels.  I thought all along this was what we were all looking at, and the latest LWX forecast is for snow into the late evening just past midnight.  Would not be surprised if there's sleet or some mix at the beginning, almost like the Jan. 2011 storm.

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  On 2/13/2014 at 8:00 PM, Bob Chill said:

Not sure why you have that feeling. 850's drop to below -3 by 7pm. Decent rates will be snow. Look at the mid levels. 

 

The NAMS sounding at initialization was pretty darn accurate for 18z, had the surface about 36.5 which is exactly what it was.  At 21z it has the surface less than 1C (not sure we'll get there) which I'm assuming means the precip has moved in and at 00z it's def an all snow sounding like you said.

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  On 2/13/2014 at 7:57 PM, PraetorianGuard said:

Isn't there much more coming as well?

You keep asking this. The ULL is it. At best, someone gets another 2-4". Then, we are done. We had an area wide 8-16" snowfall outside of extreme NW zones that got higher and extreme SE areas that got a little lower. It was a good event.

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The atmosphere is a loose cannon with this batch.  Models have been inconsistent and boom or bust is still on the table. My guess is further southeast will make out better because of the H5 track, but I can see the western mountains helping to set off something.

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  On 2/13/2014 at 8:31 PM, snowfan said:

For the record, there's no reason to be disappointed in this storm. This was always going to be a front end thump, dry slot with snizzle and then a chance for a back end hit. It's gone as planned, IMO.

If someone got 6" when others 20 miles away got 13", they have every right to be disappointed. They don't have to be disappointed, of course, but it's completely understandable if they are.

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  On 2/13/2014 at 8:34 PM, mattie g said:

If someone got 6" when others 20 miles away got 13", they have every right to be disappointed. They don't have to be disappointed, of course, but it's completely understandable if they are.

Meh. There's about a 30 mile difference between myself and Wes. He was always at risk for switching sooner than me and ending up with lower totals. And it looks like he got 5.5 to my 11. My 11 was a high bust based on the LWX forecast, but his total was pretty much spot on. Just using this as an example.

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