Violentweatherfan Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 It's your opinion, and I totally respect that. I just strongly disagree with your "car topper only" statement. 5-8 inches on the other hand for March is average to above at all three of those airports so I would gladly take that. Additionally, 5-8 inches over two events isnt the same as it would be in jan/feb due to climatology, for an example wet snow,freezing rain change over ect. I look at it this way. I feel it is similar to being down 5-0(pick your sport) and you score three more times making it 5-3. The 3 goals/points aren't the same. It becomes meaningless stat padding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Additionally, 5-8 inches over two events isnt the same as it would be in jan/feb due to climatology, for an example wet snow,freezing rain change over ect. I look at it this way. I feel it is similar to being down 5-0(pick your sport) and you score three more times making it 5-3. The 3 goals/points aren't the same. It becomes meaningless stat padding... I know you are more into big storms, and I understand that. Here is my 2 cents: Even if it's "only" 5 to 8" as you suggested, I'd rather have that than not. First of all, it's going to be March. I don't go for the early (2012-ish) warm up any year because it's not good for plant life. Let that happen in April. March is a transition month. So let it snow if it can. We've still got a fair amount of snow cover around that isn't going anywhere over the next 2 weeks anyway, so it's not like you could start your garden. As for padding stats, this is a great time to pad stats. One measure of a good winter is total snowfall, and we can build on that. Another is days with snow on the ground, and we can build on that. We've got a good base left in a lot of areas. It's been an absolutely awesome winter, and if this was the end of it I'd be quite content. But the pattern seems to support, at some point, additional snowfall. I made a post in the medium-long range thread this morning pointing out a couple of reasons why I am optimistic. I still feel that way. To use another analogy, it's like you went to see your favorite band in concert, they put on an awesome show, now they're likely coming back out for an encore, are you going to head for the parking lot? There are no guarantees, obviously, but I would bet that Ralph will get to use his new snow shovel before we are done. And when it's time to let go of winter, I will do that. I just don't believe we are "done" yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violentweatherfan Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I know you are more into big storms, and I understand that. Here is my 2 cents: Even if it's "only" 5 to 8" as you suggested, I'd rather have that than not. First of all, it's going to be March. I don't go for the early (2012-ish) warm up any year because it's not good for plant life. Let that happen in April. March is a transition month. So let it snow if it can. We've still got a fair amount of snow cover around that isn't going anywhere over the next 2 weeks anyway, so it's not like you could start your garden. As for padding stats, this is a great time to pad stats. One measure of a good winter is total snowfall, and we can build on that. Another is days with snow on the ground, and we can build on that. We've got a good base left in a lot of areas. It's been an absolutely awesome winter, and if this was the end of it I'd be quite content. But the pattern seems to support, at some point, additional snowfall. I made a post in the medium-long range thread this morning pointing out a couple of reasons why I am optimistic. I still feel that way. To use another analogy, it's like you went to see your favorite band in concert, they put on an awesome show, now they're likely coming back out for an encore, are you going to head for the parking lot? There are no guarantees, obviously, but I would bet that Ralph will get to use his new snow shovel before we are done. And when it's time to let go of winter, I will do that. I just don't believe we are "done" yet. Nice post. I'm seeing different perspectives within our forum which is cool. A single 5-8" snowfall would be nice but a couple maybe three would be disappointing when the up coming pattern looked so promising. I may have not expressed this in my "done" post. I'm Okay with letting go this winter, it's been good. The surprise deathband was awesome, the January 2nd west tender was great. But for me the 2002/03 winter was better for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violentweatherfan Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Kamu, I have learned to appreciate moderate snows slot more as long as they involve CCB's lol. The January 16, 2011 event was great. Excellent snow rates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEchestercountydude Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I know you are more into big storms, and I understand that. Here is my 2 cents: Even if it's "only" 5 to 8" as you suggested, I'd rather have that than not. First of all, it's going to be March. I don't go for the early (2012-ish) warm up any year because it's not good for plant life. Let that happen in April. March is a transition month. So let it snow if it can. We've still got a fair amount of snow cover around that isn't going anywhere over the next 2 weeks anyway, so it's not like you could start your garden. As for padding stats, this is a great time to pad stats. One measure of a good winter is total snowfall, and we can build on that. Another is days with snow on the ground, and we can build on that. We've got a good base left in a lot of areas. It's been an absolutely awesome winter, and if this was the end of it I'd be quite content. But the pattern seems to support, at some point, additional snowfall. I made a post in the medium-long range thread this morning pointing out a couple of reasons why I am optimistic. I still feel that way. To use another analogy, it's like you went to see your favorite band in concert, they put on an awesome show, now they're likely coming back out for an encore, are you going to head for the parking lot? There are no guarantees, obviously, but I would bet that Ralph will get to use his new snow shovel before we are done. And when it's time to let go of winter, I will do that. I just don't believe we are "done" yet. Agree with everything you said, great post. Snow is snow is snow lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEchestercountydude Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Kamu, I have learned to appreciate moderate snows slot more as long as they involve CCB's lol. The January 16, 2011 event was great. Excellent snow rates! I personally appreciate the "pack" after storms just as much as the storm it's self, so I'm fine with four storms spread out over two weeks that leads to eight inches just as much as one storm that drops eight by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Nice post. I'm seeing different perspectives within our forum which is cool. A single 5-8" snowfall would be nice but a couple maybe three would be disappointing when the up coming pattern looked so promising. I may have not expressed this in my "done" post. I'm Okay with letting go this winter, it's been good. The surprise deathband was awesome, the January 2nd west tender was great. But for me the 2002/03 winter was better for me... Thanks! For now I'm going with the idea that there is potential for a couple of events between now and mid March, maybe not all straight snow, but I do believe I'll be adding to the snow pile. I'll be disappointed if it doesn't work out that way, but the pattern overall is more favorable for snow during the first 2 weeks of March than it usually is. This winter has so made up for the last two, and if it's not done yet, I'm going to enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Agree with everything you said, great post. Snow is snow is snow lol. Yup, that's what I was trying to say, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 GGEM 10 day fantasy snow map + snow on ground gives me 40" depth by late next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 GGEM 10 day fantasy snow map + snow on ground gives me 40" depth by late next week yeah i posted that in the other thread. building a spring glacier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 yeah i posted that in the other thread. building a spring glacier Part of me wants to say too much snow now make it stop Record black walnut crop and snow owls in florida, check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Part of me wants to say too much snow now make it stop That part needs to be removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 ECM is cold as a witches teet after next weeks storm with a semblance of the GGEM day 10 event. March madness Trade in cars for horses cause the roads are going to be toast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 hopefully all township's have re-stocked their salt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svh19044 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 hopefully all township's have re-stocked their salt I'm kind of hoping they didn't. I think that the potholes might actually be worse than ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violentweatherfan Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I'm kind of hoping they didn't. I think that the potholes might actually be worse than ice. From what I heard, there are different qualities of asphalt, and asphalt has an expiration date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbourton Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Looks like cutter scenario for the 3/4 storm is getting to be less of a probability. More of a threat even if we're talking about freezing rain and sleet for an extended period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Looks like cutter scenario for the 3/4 storm is getting to be less of a probability. More of a threat even if we're talking about freezing rain and sleet for an extended period of time. This storm is still 6 days out. I would not rule anything out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbourton Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Six days out but just reporting on latest 18z run fro the GFS - much warmer mostly rain for the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 18z gfs is always the worst run of the 4. i always ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbourton Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 18z gfs is always the worst run of the 4. i always ignore I know but it's a great lead in to what happens at 0z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Am I reading correctly that friday's record low is a balmy 19f in phl? We should easily smash that friday morning if I am reading the charts right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Am I reading correctly that friday's record low is a balmy 19f in phl? We should easily smash that friday morning if I am reading the charts right. You misread. 9F, not 19F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 You misread. 9F, not 19Fthanks Ray....typo on weather.com. http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/daily/USPA1276 '> http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/daily/USPA1276 In any event the record of 8 on thurs and then 9 on friday will be close imo. With some snowpack we would easily have had a great shot at breaking these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 thanks Ray....typo on weather.com. http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/daily/USPA1276 '> http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/daily/USPA1276 In any event the record of 8 on thurs and then 9 on friday will be close imo. With some snowpack we would easily have had a great shot at breaking these. Ah, thought you got that from the AFD. PHL is 6 on Thursday. From the AFD: FEBRUARY 27TH FEBRUARY 28THATLANTIC CITY...7 DEGREES IN 1934......2 DEGREES IN 1934 PHILADELPHIA....6 DEGREES IN 1990......9 DEGREES IN 1934 WILMINGTON......5 DEGREES IN 1934.....-5 DEGREES IN 1934 ALLENTOWN......-2 DEGREES IN 1963....-10 DEGREES IN 1934TRENTON.........6 DEGREES IN 1934......1 DEGREE IN 1934 GEORGETOWN.....10 DEGREES IN 1963......8 DEGREES IN 1950 READING.........4 DEGREES IN 1934......3 DEGREES IN 1934 MOUNT POCONO...-9 DEGREES IN 1993....-15 DEGREES IN 1907 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Ah, thought you got that from the AFD. PHL is 6 on Thursday. From the AFD: FEBRUARY 27TH FEBRUARY 28THATLANTIC CITY...7 DEGREES IN 1934......2 DEGREES IN 1934 PHILADELPHIA....6 DEGREES IN 1990......9 DEGREES IN 1934 WILMINGTON......5 DEGREES IN 1934.....-5 DEGREES IN 1934 ALLENTOWN......-2 DEGREES IN 1963....-10 DEGREES IN 1934TRENTON.........6 DEGREES IN 1934......1 DEGREE IN 1934 GEORGETOWN.....10 DEGREES IN 1963......8 DEGREES IN 1950 READING.........4 DEGREES IN 1934......3 DEGREES IN 1934 MOUNT POCONO...-9 DEGREES IN 1993....-15 DEGREES IN 1907 I think I trust the nws more than the other site. In which case thursday I doubt we break but friday has a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbourton Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 !2z models for the March 3-5 storm were all over the place. But which one would you trust for a southern stream storm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbolt Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I was wondering if somebody can help me out, I'm looking for the windspeed and wind direction for Monday, February 24 between hours of 1130 and 1230 that day I'm assisting the fire Marshall's office with the Investigation of a dwelling fire, thank you Ex fire chief Chris Russell William Penn Fire Co Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 !2z models for the March 3-5 storm were all over the place. But which one would you trust for a southern stream storm?euro imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbolt Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 The fire was in the Langhorne area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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