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its off my text,ill post it for you,gimme a couple

NAM/WRF 80Km FORECAST FOR: MSL    LAT=  34.73 LON=  -87.60 ELE=   551

                                             7P FEB 8

                 SFC     850     SFC     SFC     700    6 HR     500    1000

                 TMP     TMP     PRS     RHU     RHU     QPF     HGT     500

                 ©     ©    (MB)    (PCT)   (PCT)   (IN)    (DM)     THK

SAT  7P 08-FEB   5.3    -1.2    1023      79       9             561     543   

SUN  1A 09-FEB   3.3     3.6    1020      94      15    0.00     558     542   

SUN  7A 09-FEB   2.4     0.4    1021      98      53    0.00     558     541   

SUN  1P 09-FEB   8.3     4.6    1021      71      34    0.01     563     546   

SUN  7P 09-FEB   6.6     5.9    1021      81      29    0.00     564     547   

MON  1A 10-FEB   2.6     3.7    1021      89      32    0.00     562     545   

MON  7A 10-FEB   0.3     2.0    1023      88      90    0.01     561     543   

MON  1P 10-FEB   0.7     0.6    1022      86      93    0.09     561     543   

MON  7P 10-FEB  -1.2    -0.5    1022      96      99    0.35     560     543   

TUE  1A 11-FEB  -2.5    -1.2    1023      92      92    0.24     559     541   

TUE  7A 11-FEB  -5.8    -2.0    1025      91      53    0.01     558     538   

TUE  1P 11-FEB   0.8    -2.0    1027      68      25    0.00     559     538   

TUE  7P 11-FEB  -1.1    -0.9    1027      82      26    0.00     559     538   

WED  1A 12-FEB  -5.3     0.0    1027      91      28    0.00     560     539   

 

I double checked your thermals and you look ok

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Does anyone still think this thing shifts to the NW? It literally looks like a shift of 75-100 miles puts the whole state squarely in the game. If such a shift were to occur, when does it typically show up on the models? Around 48 hrs? 24-48 hrs? Inside 24 hrs?

 

I think it's certainly possible.  Anything is possible.  Based on the expert discussion on the radio show tonight we won't know until sometime tomorrow.  I'm glued to this 0z Euro run, curious to see what direction it goes and how amped it is.

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Does anyone still think this thing shifts to the NW? It literally looks like a shift of 75-100 miles puts the whole state squarely in the game. If such a shift were to occur, when does it typically show up on the models? Around 48 hrs? 24-48 hrs? Inside 24 hrs?

The event that brought the Valley 3-5 inches a week and a half ago was a complete miss until it was within 24 hours or so. The NW trend used to be the most feared way to miss winter storms here. They'd look great for days on end, only to suddenly shift NW and cut the to the Lakes. Now we're managing to struggle to get a good storm because it won't shift NW. I'd say tomorrow night's 00z runs or Monday's 12z should tell the tale and give close to the final solution. At least as close as it gets this year, in the west Tennessee ice event they were wrong while the event was happening.

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The event that brought the Valley 3-5 inches a week and a half ago was a complete miss until it was within 24 hours or so. The NW trend used to be the most feared way to miss winter storms here. They'd look great for days on end, only to suddenly shift NW and cut the to the Lakes. Now we're managing to struggle to get a good storm because it won't shift NW. I'd say tomorrow night's 00z runs or Monday's 12z should tell the tale and give close to the final solution. At least as close as it gets this year, in the west Tennessee ice event they were wrong while the event was happening.

 

True dat, for the latest one particularly.

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I think it's certainly possible.  Anything is possible.  Based on the expert discussion on the radio show tonight we won't know until sometime tomorrow.  I'm glued to this 0z Euro run, curious to see what direction it goes and how amped it is.

theres more qpf's than what is showing,crap i looked at the skew t's on the NAM and it shows the pw's at 1.33 for BNA at hr 54,it just shows weak returns

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The event that brought the Valley 3-5 inches a week and a half ago was a complete miss until it was within 24 hours or so. The NW trend used to be the most feared way to miss winter storms here. They'd look great for days on end, only to suddenly shift NW and cut the to the Lakes. Now we're managing to struggle to get a good storm because it won't shift NW. I'd say tomorrow night's 00z runs or Monday's 12z should tell the tale and give close to the final solution. At least as close as it gets this year, in the west Tennessee ice event they were wrong while the event was happening.

 

The thing to note is that the 4" Knoxville got certainly wasn't on the radar of MRX either. We were only under a WWA at the last minute progged to get about an inch of snow. Everyone immediately NW of the decent band got 'surprised'.

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I'm showing less than an inch for all of TN except for Chattanooga and up to about central Sequatchie valley which gets 2 to 4 inches, by hour 84.  Not including mountains of course.  North MS, AL, GA look good.  2-4 for those areas with NE GA looking like the bullseye on the snow maps.

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I'm showing less than an inch for all of TN except for Chattanooga and up to about central Sequatchie valley which gets 2 to 4 inches, by hour 84.  Not including mountains of course.  North MS, AL, GA look good.  2-4 for those areas with NE GA looking like the bullseye on the snow maps.

Dont look at the qpf's right now look at the trend all day,its nw

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I don't know how we aren't doing well on the Euro, it has a LP centered down in South Ga that would normally be a pretty prime position for us. I can't believe the models aren't underestimating the QPF field.

they are John,look at my post up above even what the NAM showed when i looked at BNA'S skew T's it showed pwats at 1.33,no way the reflective maps should look like they do

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dont see the ice,even the 925's look cold

 

Edit;Now if we are talking bout SC,i'd be worried

I think I was reading about Georgia and then some ice coming in a second wave to Eastern Carolina but after they get a good snow. So I might trade for that!

 

Someone said something about a low(?) coming up HAT. Is that the Hatteris in NC that Carvers was wanting? I wish I had copied it here, because I'd never find it again.

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