tsteel Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 About another 2" here, kinda hard to find a place to measure accurately. Looks like at least 3" for most of Pittsburgh metro area Monday night, but wouldn't be surprised if I got 5" or more here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PITTSBURGH PA 630 PM EST SUN FEB 16 2014 MDZ001-OHZ040-041-049-050-059-PAZ013-014-020>023-029-031-073>076- WVZ001>004-022-023-170230- ALLEGHENY PA-ARMSTRONG PA-BEAVER PA-BELMONT OH-BROOKE WV-BUTLER PA- CARROLL OH-COLUMBIANA OH-FAYETTE PA-FAYETTE RIDGES PA-GARRETT MD- GREENE PA-HANCOCK WV-HARRISON OH-INDIANA PA-JEFFERSON OH-LAWRENCE PA- MARSHALL WV-MONONGALIA WV-OHIO WV-PRESTON WV-WASHINGTON PA- WESTMORELAND PA-WESTMORELAND RIDGES PA- 630 PM EST SUN FEB 16 2014 ...SNOW SHOWERS WILL AFFECT ALLEGHENY...BEAVER...BROOKE...EASTERN CARROLL...EXTREME NORTHEASTERN BELMONT...FAYETTE...GARRETT... GREENE...HANCOCK...JEFFERSON...MONONGALIA...NORTHEASTERN HARRISON... NORTHEASTERN MARSHALL...OHIO...PRESTON...SOUTHEASTERN LAWRENCE... SOUTHERN ARMSTRONG...SOUTHERN BUTLER...SOUTHERN COLUMBIANA...SOUTHERN INDIANA...WASHINGTON AND WESTMORELAND COUNTIES... SNOW SHOWERS AFFECTING THE AREA MAY CAUSE A QUICK ACCUMULATION OF ABOUT ONE INCH LOCALLY WITH POSSIBLY 2 INCHES OR MORE OF ACCUMULATION IN THE RIDGES FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS EVENING. UNTREATED ROADS MAY QUICKLY BECOME SNOW-COVERED AND SLICK. LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE... ZELIENOPLE... FOMBELL... ELLWOOD CITY... DARLINGTON... BLACKHAWK... BEAVER FALLS... SALINEVILLE... MILLPORT... MECHANICSTOWN... LISBON... EAST ROCHESTER... CARROLLTON... PLEASE REPORT SIGNIFICANT WEATHER BY CALLING...412-262-1988...POSTING TO THE NWS PITTSBURGH FACEBOOK PAGE...OR USING TWITTER @NWSPITTSBURGH. LAT...LON 4036 7899 3986 7941 3973 7938 3972 7893 3941 7913 3920 7947 3927 7969 3924 7985 3944 7991 3961 8015 3961 8035 3971 8041 3972 8052 3986 8052 4003 8073 4014 8075 4050 8112 4073 8117 4091 8025 4067 7882 $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 They were wrong. Or u wrong. Show me your proof. I measured. 4 inches an hour. Around 1. Am. And u 24 hr snow report is 23 because that was 24 hours. Of snow. If u look at noaa. They'll did one measurement. From the 5 th. And one to the 6 th. In 2010. Show me a storm that dropped 28. Inches in plum in less than 12 hours If you got more - great. Hope u enjoyed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdd9108 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I just watched Joe Bs daily video and he says its gonna get darn cold again and there are gonna be some good widespread storm threats. He says the pattern is something to behold especially in march. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 About 3" - another nice overachiever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Measured about 2.5 around 5:30. Its snowing moderate to heavy right now though, so probably going to add at least a half inch. Will need to re-measure tomorrow morning. I must be under one of those showers mentioned in the special weather statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsteel Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I just watched Joe Bs daily video and he says its gonna get darn cold again and there are gonna be some good widespread storm threats. He says the pattern is something to behold especially in march. 53.9" for the season now for KPIT. Probably a realistic shot at 75" total by end of March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Where are you at? The highest official report for that storm from NWS Pit was 26" i think in southern Allegheny, and 21.1" at the airport. That fell in about a 16 to 18 hour period. The rates we were tracking that night generally peaked at 2" to 2.5" per hour. (Which was spectacular!) But... The Jan '94 had documented 5" per hour rates for a short time. Those were downtown and points south and east. That storm had a very under represented 14" at the airport, but 20" downtown. There was up to 30" south and east The March '93 storm had several 3" per hour hours both at the airport and other places. That sett the a time 24 hr snowfall amount at 23.6" Obviously, that was another level in terms of 50 mph winds and 36" totals to the east. Feb 2003 was a more drawm out storm with out the pounding rates. The area got 15" to 20" more on duration i think I'm not saying feb 2010 wasnt a great storm. It was. However there were a few other recent ones with heavier per hour rates. This is the hourly obs for peak of the March 1993 storm: 12 PM EST HVY SNOW 23 23 100 N18G31 29.45F VSB1/16 WCI -4 1 PM EST HVY SNOW 23 23 100 N17G25 29.39F VSB1/16 WCI -3 MIN TEMP LAST 24 HRS 22 PRECIP LAST 6 HRS .10 2 PM EST HVY SNOW 22 21 96 N23 29.28F VSB1/16 WCI -10 3 PM EST HVY SNOW 21 21 100 N23 29.22F VSB1/16 WCI -11 4 PM EST HVY SNOW 20 18 92 N28G40 29.20F VSB1/16 WCI -16 5 PM EST HVY SNOW 18 17 96 N25G39 29.19F VSB1/16 WCI -17 6 PM EST HVY SNOW 18 17 96 N25G37 29.19S VSB1/16 WCI -17 7 PM EST HVY SNOW 18 16 92 N28G36 29.19S VSB1/16 WCI -19 From this link: http://www.erh.noaa.gov/pbz/hourlywx/P1993$03.PIT 1/16 mile visibility? Yeah, that's 3" an hour, even with wind. Plus, there are plenty of references to 3" an hour rates for that storm. I lived on Mt Washington during that storm and I measured a 4" rate from 3 to 4 pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdd9108 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 This is the hourly obs for peak of the March 1993 storm: 12 PM EST HVY SNOW 23 23 100 N18G31 29.45F VSB1/16 WCI -4 1 PM EST HVY SNOW 23 23 100 N17G25 29.39F VSB1/16 WCI -3 MIN TEMP LAST 24 HRS 22 PRECIP LAST 6 HRS .10 2 PM EST HVY SNOW 22 21 96 N23 29.28F VSB1/16 WCI -10 3 PM EST HVY SNOW 21 21 100 N23 29.22F VSB1/16 WCI -11 4 PM EST HVY SNOW 20 18 92 N28G40 29.20F VSB1/16 WCI -16 5 PM EST HVY SNOW 18 17 96 N25G39 29.19F VSB1/16 WCI -17 6 PM EST HVY SNOW 18 17 96 N25G37 29.19S VSB1/16 WCI -17 7 PM EST HVY SNOW 18 16 92 N28G36 29.19S VSB1/16 WCI -19From this link: http://www.erh.noaa.gov/pbz/hourlywx/P1993$03.PIT1/16 mile visibility? Yeah, that's 3" an hour, even with wind. Plus, there are plenty of references to 3" an hour rates for that storm. I lived on Mt Washington during that storm and I measured a 4" rate from 3 to 4 pm. That would be a site to see. I hope I can see rates here like that again soon, although I know thats more likely around the coast or lake effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 That would be a site to see. I hope I can see rates here like that again soon, although I know thats more likely around the coast or lake effect. I saw March 12 21993 was one of the analogs showing up for the upcoming pattern. Just sayin. 00z NAM still looks pretty interesting for tomorrow night / Tuesday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdd9108 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I saw March 12 21993 was one of the analogs showing up for the upcoming pattern. Just sayin. 00z NAM still looks pretty interesting for tomorrow night / Tuesday morning. Don't you dare screw with me. That would cause endless model watching during the week. It was nice getting drunk and not staring at models. Weekends ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdd9108 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Fwiw wxbell map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCity08 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 gfs is looking pretty nice for tomorrow now as well. Mixing doesn't seem to be an issue. A general 3-5 with 4-8 just to the north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 gfs is looking pretty nice for tomorrow now as well. Mixing doesn't seem to be an issue. A general 3-5 with 4-8 just to the north. I think it's going to be an issue in the beginning, especially for the communities south of Pittsburgh, but I think overall it'll be mostly snow for everyone, especially when the low gets closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SteelCity08 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Should be a fun night, good way to cap off this snowy weekend before the warm up. Advisories should be up by the morning. Hopefully someone can squeak out 6 inches out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwilson Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Looks like a non-event down here tonight (maybe a couple inches), at least according to the NWS forecast. I haven't really looked at the models. Last of the snow for at least a week, which would essentially tie the longest we've gone this winter without a snow threat. Pretty incredible how this entire winter has been a train of storms. The snowpack may actually be gone after this weekend; I haven't seen grass in quite a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psunate1977 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Still a lot of salt shortages out there. With the warmup if crews can get through next 2-3 weeks the sun should start working on their side with it beginning to get higher in the sky Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PITTSBURGH PA 345 AM EST MON FEB 17 2014 OHZ039>041-048>050-PAZ020-021-029-073-WVZ001>003-171645- /O.NEW.KPBZ.WW.Y.0011.140218T0000Z-140218T1800Z/ TUSCARAWAS-CARROLL-COLUMBIANA-COSHOCTON-HARRISON-JEFFERSON OH- BEAVER-ALLEGHENY-WASHINGTON-WESTMORELAND-HANCOCK-BROOKE-OHIO- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...NEW PHILADELPHIA...CARROLLTON...SALEM... COSHOCTON...CADIZ...STEUBENVILLE...BEAVER... PITTSBURGH METRO AREA...WASHINGTON...GREENSBURG...LATROBE... WEIRTON...BETHANY...WHEELING 345 AM EST MON FEB 17 2014 ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM THIS EVENING TO 1 PM EST TUESDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN PITTSBURGH HAS ISSUED A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW AND SLEET...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM THIS EVENING TO 1 PM EST TUESDAY. * SNOW AND SLEET ACCUMULATIONS...2 TO 4 INCHES. * SNOW AND SLEET BEGINNING...AS EARLY AS 7 PM IN OHIO AND 9 PM TO MIDNIGHT IN PENNSYLVANIA. * PERIOD OF MOST INTENSE SNOW AND SLEET...FROM THE ONSET OF SNOW AND SLEET FOR A DURATION OF ABOUT 3 TO 5 HOURS. * SNOW AND SLEET ENDING...SNOW WILL TAPER TO AREAS OF DRIZZLE AND FREEZING DRIZZLE FOR SEVERAL HOURS LATE MONDAY NIGHT. * SNOW REDEVELOPS...SNOW WILL LIKELY REDEVELOP BEFORE THE MORNING RUSH ON TUESDAY. * SNOW ENDS A SECOND TIME...BY NOON TUESDAY. * IMPACTS...HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED DUE TO SNOW...SLEET AND ICE COVERED ROADS. * WINDS...SOUTHEAST 10 TO 20 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 MPH TURNING SOUTHWEST 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 45 MPH MONDAY NIGHT...TAPERING TO 10 TO 20 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 25 MPH TUESDAY. * IMPACTS...HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED DUE TO SNOW...SLEET AND ICE COVERED ROADS. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY MEANS THAT SNOW...SLEET...OR FREEZING RAIN WILL CAUSE TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES. USE CAUTION WHILE DRIVING AND REPORT SNOW AND ICE ACCUMULATION TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BY CALLING 412-262-1988...POSTING TO THE NWS PITTSBURGH FACEBOOK PAGE...OR USING TWITTER @NWSPITTSBURGH. && $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdd9108 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Maybe because we are so close to the freezing line we can see decent banding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdd9108 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 One last model before I head for class. The RGEM which apparently has been pretty good this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilpens64 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-video/snow-spreads-from-chicago-to-n/655578741001?channel=top_story Bernie Rayno's Take on the Storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwilson Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Canadian says 4-6, NWS says 1-2. Guess we'll see who wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilpens64 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Canadian says 4-6, NWS says 1-2. Guess we'll see who wins. that isn't even a fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 US National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA Weather Tidbit for the night: Yesterday's snowfall at the NWS office measured 2.5" out of 0.02" of liquid equivalent. You may have seen us refer to snow-to-liquid ratios or snow ratios in products such as our discussions. A "normal" snow ratio in Pittsburgh would be around 12 to 1. Today's snow ratio worked out to be 125 to 1! That's an absolutely stunning number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwc Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-video/snow-spreads-from-chicago-to-n/655578741001?channel=top_story Bernie Rayno's Take on the Storm that is a great analysis. Looks like PIT is contending with the WTOD once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwilson Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 that isn't even a fight I'll keep a tally, but for now it appears the RGEM is standing on its own. The NAM says just 1-2 down here, so it would agree with the NWS. The GFS appears to give us a little of everything which would cut on max snowfall. I don't know where to access the accumulated snowfall maps for the latest GFS, though. Euro I haven't seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilpens64 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I'll keep a tally, but for now it appears the RGEM is standing on its own. The NAM says just 1-2 down here, so it would agree with the NWS. The GFS appears to give us a little of everything which would cut on max snowfall. I don't know where to access the accumulated snowfall maps for the latest GFS, though. Euro I haven't seen. well they hug to GooFuS to death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I'll keep a tally, but for now it appears the RGEM is standing on its own. The NAM says just 1-2 down here, so it would agree with the NWS. The GFS appears to give us a little of everything which would cut on max snowfall. I don't know where to access the accumulated snowfall maps for the latest GFS, though. Euro I haven't seen. RGEM has been a great model for Precip type over the last 2 Winters that I have been following. They keep the snow line all the way to the PA/WV border. I think Morgantown is on the line but most of Greater Pit will see all snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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