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I saved a bunch of pictures with screen shots from local forecasts Friday evening and most had a coating to an inch....including the weather channel and accuweather..... When I end up with 4 IMBY I do consider that as a bust.....I didn't see any calling for 1-3"?....

 

JV on the radio said 1-3"

I saw WPXI on at a bar at they had 1-3" with 2-4" south

NWS had 1-3" with advisories for 3-5" south

 

There will be plenty of times were a 1" forecast turns in to a widespread 6". That wasn't one of them

 

 

I agree that we lack the dynamic on air personalities of the past. It isn't great. I don't watch unless I happen to run in to it. But that makes this thread even more important. It would be nice to have more pros stop by, so we all have an obligation to make it not suck

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The snow is still hanging on. We have 20dbz across Allegheny County right now. Glad I don't have to drive in it for a change.

 

Heavier echos keep developing....back to mod snow here

 

From eyeballing looks like about 2" new - the Feb sun angle is starting to show up as it is not accumulating in some spots as fast. That's one of the reason the roads aren't as bad as they could be.

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Today was one of those days, last night it was flurries, and i have around 5-6 inches of snow on top, of the snow from the past few weeks. Impressive over performer. Still moderate to heavy snow across the metro area. I say a few inches are possible today into the evening. That's still an high end advisory, or low end winter storm warning criteria snowfall. At least this snow is easy to plow, so the roads aren't bad out 

 

Then tomorrow night, who knows? i can be a 1-2 inch/mix situation or like today. We'll just have to see 

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Moderate snow coming down right now. Very nice big fluffy flakes falling!

 

NWS HWO for Monday night:

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.TWO TO FIVE INCHES OF SNOW IS POSSIBLE MONDAY NIGHT INTO EARLYTUESDAY...WITH THE HIGHEST AMOUNTS NORTH OF PITTSBURGH. A BRIEFWINTRY MIX OF PRECIPITATION IS ALSO POSSIBLE MONDAY NIGHT NEAR ANDSOUTH OF INTERSTATE 70.

Longer term, torch looking shorter and shorter in duration now. Snow pack is water laden at this point, wonder if we manage to hold onto it until the cold rebuilds and pours back in next Sunday?

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Moderate snow coming down right now. Very nice big fluffy flakes falling!

 

NWS HWO for Monday night:

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.TWO TO FIVE INCHES OF SNOW IS POSSIBLE MONDAY NIGHT INTO EARLYTUESDAY...WITH THE HIGHEST AMOUNTS NORTH OF PITTSBURGH. A BRIEFWINTRY MIX OF PRECIPITATION IS ALSO POSSIBLE MONDAY NIGHT NEAR ANDSOUTH OF INTERSTATE 70.

Longer term, torch looking shorter and shorter in duration now. Snow pack is water laden at this point, wonder if we manage to hold onto it until the cold rebuilds and pours back in next Sunday?

They are hugging the GooFuS again 

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JV on the radio said 1-3"

I saw WPXI on at a bar at they had 1-3" with 2-4" south

NWS had 1-3" with advisories for 3-5" south

There will be plenty of times were a 1" forecast turns in to a widespread 6". That wasn't one of them

I agree that we lack the dynamic on air personalities of the past. It isn't great. I don't watch unless I happen to run in to it. But that makes this thread even more important. It would be nice to have more pros stop by, so we all have an obligation to make it not suck

Yea I definitely agree!....when I say bust-I'm not putting anyone down, just happy I have more here than what forecast I actually saw....one of my best friends is a MET for WTOV9 in stuebenville and I talk to him all the time.....he seems to always nail it-maybe I'm biased-lol.....he lives here in a southern suburb of allegheny county and drives there every day...he's better than GFS/NAM/GGEM/weather channel, etc....haha
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2010. I was shoveling in middle of night. I knew we would never c anything like that again.

As of that storm, We had 4 storms in a 17 year period where that range of snowfall was widespread in the area, and another 2 where parts of the area got into that type of snow. So "never again" is bit strong.

I think the range of big snowfall frequencies on the NWS site was always a bit underdone because it focused on one reporting station that is pretty far west. Although still, its hard to expect a 15" to 20"+ storm more than once or twice a decade. There are parts of the east that just happened to have gotten waaay out of line recently with their climo, and as such our expectations are higher, as are the dissapointments.

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Yea I definitely agree!....when I say bust-I'm not putting anyone down, just happy I have more here than what forecast I actually saw....one of my best friends is a MET for WTOV9 in stuebenville and I talk to him all the time.....he seems to always nail it-maybe I'm biased-lol.....he lives here in a southern suburb of allegheny county and drives there every day...he's better than GFS/NAM/GGEM/weather channel, etc....haha

I remember you mentioning him. You should try to get him on here

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I lived in Pittsburgh for 40 years. And I never seen snow rates. 4 inches an hour. And that includes the 2 superstorms of the 90,s. 93 blizzard 3 days. To get all that snow. And them other storms were known In advance. Feb 2010. Came like a thief in the night. Name me a storm were 28 inches was dropped in 12 hours.

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I lived in Pittsburgh for 40 years. And I never seen snow rates. 4 inches an hour. And that includes the 2 superstorms of the 90,s. 93 blizzard 3 days. To get all that snow. And them other storms were known In advance. Feb 2010. Came like a thief in the night. Name me a storm were 28 inches was dropped in 12 hours.

Where are you at? The highest official report for that storm from NWS Pit was 26" i think in southern Allegheny, and 21.1" at the airport. That fell in about a 16 to 18 hour period. The rates we were tracking that night generally peaked at 2" to 2.5" per hour. (Which was spectacular!)

But...

The Jan '94 had documented 5" per hour rates for a short time. Those were downtown and points south and east. That storm had a very under represented 14" at the airport, but 20" downtown. There was up to 30" south and east

The March '93 storm had several 3" per hour hours both at the airport and other places. That sett the a time 24 hr snowfall amount at 23.6" Obviously, that was another level in terms of 50 mph winds and 36" totals to the east.

Feb 2003 was a more drawm out storm with out the pounding rates. The area got 15" to 20" more on duration i think

I'm not saying feb 2010 wasnt a great storm. It was. However there were a few other recent ones with heavier per hour rates.

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They were wrong. Or u wrong. Show me your proof. I measured. 4 inches an hour. Around 1. Am. And u 24 hr snow report is 23 because that was 24 hours. Of snow. If u look at noaa. They'll did one measurement. From the 5 th. And one to the 6 th. In 2010. Show me a storm that dropped 28. Inches in plum in less than 12 hours

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What really would of been special is being alive for the storm Pittsburgh received 30 inches. The fact that retrograded back west would of been perplexing.

Mom & Dad were alive !  Mom Still is My Dad has passed away BUT I remember my Dad telling the the Story about that storm & MY Mom looked out the window & said It's so Beautiful I hope it keeps up & My Dad said it kept up & Going Up & Up & Up

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Just shoveled 2 fresh fluffy inches off the driveway. I now have a snowpack of 7 to 8 inches in my yard.

Looking forward to maybe 2-4 more tomorrow night before the brief warmup at the end of the week.

Yeah, that looks pretty good right now, I like the waa snowfalls because of the nice snowfall rate potential.

Sort of a high risk high reward situation.

 

It's interesting that in summer and winter, some of our most intense weather, occurs along or near warm fronts.

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