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Feb 12-13 Sleet/Snow/ZR Event


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 To no surprise at all, the 6Z NAM has completely folded and looks similar to the Euro and company with some of wave 1's precip. waiting for wedging to get started due to its further south position/delay and a much stronger wave #2 now. Just two runs ago, it had a very weak/far south wave 2! So, now that it is no longer out to lunch, I'll analyze it. Of course, it overdoes qpf (as usual) in some areas like N/C GA. So, I'd ignore its ridiculously high totals there. Considering 850's, 925's, sfc features, and qpf/sim, (I don't have two meter temp.'s), it looks to me like it may very well be producing a whole lot of IP and some ZR for ATL-AHN-AGS-CAE during hours 60-84, where 850's are in the +2 to +3 C range during a bunch of the precip. (while there's strong wedging) and a major ZR down Delta's way where 850's hang around +4 to +5 C. Precip. is still not over at hour 84.

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 To no surprise at all, the 6Z NAM has completely folded and looks similar to the Euro and company with some of wave 1's precip. waiting for wedging to get started due to its further south position/delay and a much stronger wave #2 now. Just two runs ago, it had a very weak/far south wave 2! So, now that it is no longer out to lunch, I'll analyze it. Of course, it overdoes qpf (as usual) in some areas like N/C GA. So, I'd ignore its ridiculously high totals there. Considering 850's, 925's, sfc features, and qpf/sim, (I don't have two meter temp.'s), it looks to me like it may very well be producing a whole lot of IP and some ZR for ATL-AHN-AGS-CAE during hours 60-84, where 850's are in the +2 to +3 C range during a bunch of the precip. (while there's strong wedging) and a major ZR down Delta's way where 850's hang around +4 to +5 C. Precip. is still not over at hour 84.

Just got up for a few mins to see that the NAM is trying to go around to the other solutions.  Again, verbatim, its just a cold rain with temps in the mid 30's, but with a pretty nice wedge built in I just can't see us staying at that range..

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FFC:

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY AFTERNOON...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN PEACHTREE CITY HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY AFTERNOON.

* LOCATIONS...PORTIONS OF NORTH GEORGIA...MAINLY ALONG AND NORTH OF A LINE FROM CARROLLTON TO ATLANTA TO HOMER.

* HAZARD TYPES...SNOW POSSIBLY MIXED WITH FREEZING RAIN OR SLEET.

* ACCUMULATIONS...1 TO 2 INCHES OF SNOW WITH 2 TO 3 ACROSS THE NORTH GEORGIA MOUNTAINS AND UP TO 4 INCHES IN THE NORTHEAST GEORGIA MOUNTAINS.

* TIMING...MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY.

* IMPACTS...SNOW COVERED ROADS WILL MAKE TRAVEL DIFFICULT MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. GIVEN SNOWFALL AMOUNTS AND TEMPERATURES...THESE IMPACTS MAY LAST INTO MID WEEK.

* WINDS...NORTH TO NORTHEAST AROUND 5 TO 10 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 20 MPH.

* TEMPERATURES...IN THE LOWER 30S MONDAY NIGHT WARMING INTO THE MID TO UPPER 30S ON TUESDAY.

* UNCERTAINTY...THERE IS STILL CONSIDERABLE UNCERTAINTY IN THIS FORECAST AND SNOWFALL AMOUNTS ARE EXPECTED TO CHANGE LEADING UP TO THE EVENT. FOLKS ACROSS NORTH GEORGIA AND EVEN PARTS OF CENTRAL GEORGIA SHOULD MONITOR THIS SITUATION CLOSELY.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT SNOW...SLEET...OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL. CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.

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Folks; we are looking at a major ZR event per 06z GFS. in  KCAE.  Even as the second  wave/the low goes up the SC coast; ZR wraps us us up bad.  Be safe.

Yeah most models are showing a very high qpf event down that way. Areas where it's below freezing could get ugly. 

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Folks; we are looking at a major ZR event per 06z GFS. in  KCAE.  Even as the second  wave/the low goes up the SC coast; ZR wraps us us up bad.  Be safe.

Ya wow at the snow and ice storm the GFS is showing. Just would  be devastating to say the least. Also look how far south the wedge of cold air is! Wow no good at all if this were to verify.

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Ya wow at the snow and ice storm the GFS is showing. Just would  be devastating to say the least. Also look how far south the wedge of cold air is! Wow no good at all if this were to verify.

 

I think the GFS is wrong showing the major wedge I posted above into almost Hilton Head/ Savannah.  We shall see.

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KCAE: ... ... ...

  (not sure the last time i saw them say "conservative")

 

THERE IS INCREASING CONFIDENCE IN WINTER WEATHER DEVELOPING ACROSS  THE AREA. HIGHEST CONFIDENCE RESIDES ACROSS THE NORTHERN MIDLANDS  BEGINNING TUESDAY MORNING. HOWEVER...CONFIDENCE IS STILL BELOW  AVERAGE AS FAR AS THE EXTENT OF WINTER WEATHER AND PRECIP AMOUNTS  ...GIVEN MODEL INCONSISTENCIES.    AS COLD SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS  INTO THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES...A COLD FRONT WILL BE PUSHED  SOUTHWARD ACROSS THE SOUTHEASTERN STATES MONDAY. INCREASING  MOISTURE BEHIND THE FRONT WILL BRING CLOUDY SKIES AND A CHANCE OF  LIGHT RAIN. HIGH TEMPERATURES MONDAY WILL REACH THE 50S TO LOWER 60S.    WEDGE CONDITIONS WILL DEVELOP MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY WITH A  BAROCLINC ZONE ACROSS THE GULF COAST STATES AND COLD CANADIAN HIGH  PRESSURE TO OUR NORTH. A SHORTWAVE SYSTEM CURRENTLY OVER THE WEST  COAST WILL MOVE TO THE SOUTHERN PLAINS TUESDAY THEN HEAD EASTWARD  ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST WEDNESDAY NIGHT. ALL MODELS SHOW PERIODS OF  ISENTROPIC LIFT ACROSS THE AREA AS LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPS ALONG THE  BAROCLINC ZONE AND LIFTS NORTHEAST. HAVE INCREASED POPS TO THE  LIKELY CATEGORY...WHICH ARE CONSERVATIVE...FROM TUESDAY THROUGH  WEDNESDAY NIGHT. GIVEN CAD...HAVE LOWERED DAYTIME HIGHS TO LEAN  CLOSER TO OUR WEDGE TECHNIQUE. EXPECT HIGHS TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY  TO RANGE FROM THE MID 30S NORTH TO THE LOWER 40S SOUTH. HAVE  INDICATED MIXED RAIN/SNOW/SLEET ACROSS THE NORTHERN MIDLANDS AND  PIEDMONT. GIVEN UNCERTAINTY...KEPT PRECIP ALL LIQUID FROM THE  CENTRAL MIDLANDS SOUTHWARD TO THE CSRA. QPF AMOUNTS ARE STILL  UNCERTAIN.     
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Euro ENS mean, atleast for NC looks the same as 12z run, actually a touch colder at the surface, precip the same, SLP track the same, curious to see mean snowfall output in an hour or so

 

00z ECMWF ENS mean snow actually beefred up a little for RDU up to 7 inches now with a healthy 16 or so of the 50 members showing 9 or more.

 

The ecmwf ens mean low track is a good deal further east than the operational ECMWF. I think op Euro taking the low up the coastal plain is too far west. That forces RDU over the rain probably after a 0.5 of QPF which is some snow mostly ice.

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Can someone please explain why the local meteorologist has the current maps showing this storm down at Charlotte and points south? What am I missing?

I believe their in-house models are only running through Tuesday.  The initial wave that the models were keying on before has shifted south and weaker.  The second wave is scheduled to come in Wednesday and now most of the models are keying on this as being the bigger precip producer.  Plus, it may not all be snow.

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I believe their in-house models are only running through Tuesday.  The initial wave that the models were keying on before has shifted south and weaker.  The second wave is scheduled to come in Wednesday and now most of the models are keying on this as being the bigger precip producer.  Plus, it may not all be snow.

 

Ahh...gotcha. Thank you!

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For those able to see the Euro ensemble. Is the sense more of the tradition r/s cutoff, or is there more of a mixed bag effect? and whatever form the cutoff takes, is it more a west-to-east or southwest to northeast path. Large implications for a lot of folks in the eastern half of NC. Thanks!

 

It looked colder and further east to me. As Allan said r/s line is probably somewhere around Raleigh east. Looked great for MBY actually but those in the east are probably too close to the low. 

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For those able to see the Euro ensemble. Is the sense more of the tradition r/s cutoff, or is there more of a mixed bag effect? and whatever form the cutoff takes, is it more a west-to-east or southwest to northeast path. Large implications for a lot of folks in the eastern half of NC. Thanks!

keep in mind it is hard to say with the mean as just averages out everything. But I would say most likely as the wedge erodes wednesday afternoon/evening Fayetteville would end as rain, but it still implies a hefty thump Tuesday night/Wednesday. The ECMWF ENS mean snow (again keep in mind this takes ice into account as well) still shows slightly over 7 inches a little more even than RDU. It looks like the best band of frontogenesis will set up from NE GA across the NC/SC border Tuesday night/Wednesday which will mean a corridor of moderate to heavy precip. So a lot of that could fall before any changeover.

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