Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 I don't think a very cold winter makes it a standout winter. Just because you're obsessed with cold doesn't mean everyone else solely uses it to determine how "great" they view the winter. I'm not obsessed with cold. Honestly, if we had bare ground up until mid January and then had one 30 cm snowfall a week for four weeks, it still wouldn't make the grade with me due to the late start to winter and green Christmas. And you've been complaining about the cold all winter. This is Canada. Better get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Probably posted it earlier, but just in case here's The Weather Network link again. http://www.theweathernetwork.com/insider-insights/articles/has-it-really-been-that-cold-in-southern-ontario/21691/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Probably posted it earlier, but just in case here's The Weather Network link again. http://www.theweathernetwork.com/insider-insights/articles/has-it-really-been-that-cold-in-southern-ontario/21691/ Didn't realize last winter was so warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Didn't realize last winter was so warm. Neither did I. I checked the data though and it sure was. December 2012 was just as warm as December 2011 and it was mild for the first half of January 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Didn't realize last winter was so warm. The mean temperature for YYZ was -2.0C last Winter, lol. December and January were way above normal, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 The mean temperature for YYZ was -2.0C last Winter, lol. December and January were way above normal, lol. Yes, for the first half of last winter, I was nervous about a trend setting up. Blowtorch winter in 2011-2012, then blowtorch first half of 2012-2013. Amazing how warm some of the new millennium's winters have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoaster Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I'm not obsessed with cold. Honestly, if we had bare ground up until mid January and then had one 30 cm snowfall a week for four weeks, it still wouldn't make the grade with me due to the late start to winter and green Christmas. And you've been complaining about the cold all winter. This is Canada. Better get used to it. I started complaining about the cold for the first time a couple weeks ago. How is that "all winter"? Bare ground until mid Jan followed by four footers would make this winter an A+ for me. Moral of the story? We clearly have different criteria for what makes a great winter. Please stop discriminating against my viewpoint. I gave my grade, just like everybody else, and you railed on me because I didn't give it a higher grade because I have a different set of criteria. It's both rude and absurd. I didn't initiate any attack on you for your winter report card. Lay off me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 2011-2012 Buffalo Airport received 36.7 inches. It was the lowest number since reporting began to take place at the Airport instead of the city of Buffalo. 11-12 was the worst winter for people who love snow/cold in history. The highest was 200 inches back in 1977. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 2011-2012 Buffalo Airport received 36.7 inches. It was the lowest number since reporting began to take place at the Airport instead of the city of Buffalo. 11-12 was the worst winter for people who love snow/cold in history. As Weathafella says in the new England sub-forum, that was a "dead ratter" of a winter. Just awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 As Weathafella says in the new England sub-forum, that was a "dead ratter" of a winter. Just awful. I am not positive if lower seasonal totals were experienced before they moved the recording center to the Airport from the city in 1940 but I doubt it. It was absolutely brutal for snow lovers. We had I think one storm above 6 inches total...That is unheard of for this area. The Lake didn't freeze the last two years at all either. This year it is more frozen than anytime since 77-78 I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 I am not positive if lower seasonal totals were experienced before they moved the recording center to the Airport from the city in 1940 but I doubt it. It was absolutely brutal for snow lovers. We had I think one storm above 6 inches total...That is unheard of for this area. The Lake didn't freeze the last two years at all either. This year it is more frozen than anytime since 77-78 I believe. I find that nature often finds a way to balance things out. Perhaps we'll have a March akin to 1960 this year to balance out that of 2012? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I find that nature often finds a way to balance things out. Perhaps we'll have a March akin to 1960 this year to balance out that of 2012? I'll gladly take a 07-08 March where we got 30 inches of snow. We had back to back 1+ foot snowstorms within a week period. Was the best back to back synoptic snowstorms I've ever experienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 I'll gladly take a 07-08 March where we got 30 inches of snow. We had back to back 1+ foot snowstorms within a week period. Was the best back to back synoptic snowstorms I've ever experienced. March 2008 was awesome. 50 cm of snow over two days in Ottawa. On top of the foot that had fallen a week earlier, the snowbanks were higher than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Actually, a March like 1870 would make this an A++ winter in my books. http://climate.weather.gc.ca/climateData/dailydata_e.html?timeframe=2&Prov=ONT&StationID=5051&dlyRange=1840-03-01|2013-12-10&cmdB1=Go&Year=1870&Month=3&Day=17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Actually, a March like 1870 would make this an A++ winter in my books. http://climate.weather.gc.ca/climateData/dailydata_e.html?timeframe=2&Prov=ONT&StationID=5051&dlyRange=1840-03-01|2013-12-10&cmdB1=Go&Year=1870&Month=3&Day=17 How much total snow is that for March? The most Buffalo has received in March since 1940 was in 2000-2001 with 32.8 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 How much total snow is that for March? The most Buffalo has received in March since 1940 was in 2000-2001 with 32.8 inches. 62" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 62" Good god. You sure measurements were accurate way back then. That seems like an error or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Good god. You sure measurements were accurate way back then. That seems like an error or something. One 21.5" snowstorm, one 20" snowstorm and one 16" snowstorm The rest were lighter snows, perhaps clippers or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Good god. You sure measurements were accurate way back then. That seems like an error or something. It's genuine I believe.. and such snow totals are possible in modern times. Take a look at Ottawa's totals in February 1971: http://climate.weather.gc.ca/climateData/dailydata_e.html?timeframe=2&Prov=ONT&StationID=4337&mlyRange=1938-01-01|2011-06-01&Year=1971&cmdB1=Go&Month=2&Day=17 That's 62.8"!! This is December 2007 in Ottawa. http://climate.weather.gc.ca/climateData/dailydata_e.html?timeframe=2&Prov=ONT&StationID=4337&mlyRange=1938-01-01%7C2011-06-01&cmdB1=Go&Year=2007&Month=12&cmdB1=Go That's 47.6". I remember that month well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 It's genuine I believe.. and such snow totals are possible in modern times. Take a look at Ottawa's totals in February 1971: http://climate.weather.gc.ca/climateData/dailydata_e.html?timeframe=2&Prov=ONT&StationID=4337&mlyRange=1938-01-01|2011-06-01&Year=1971&cmdB1=Go&Month=2&Day=17 That's 62.8"!! This is December 2007 in Ottawa. http://climate.weather.gc.ca/climateData/dailydata_e.html?timeframe=2&Prov=ONT&StationID=4337&mlyRange=1938-01-01%7C2011-06-01&cmdB1=Go&Year=2007&Month=12&cmdB1=Go That's 47.6". I remember that month well. Yeah that's a crazy pattern haha! We get insane monthly totals here but only during Dec/Jan when lake Erie is open for business. The most was 82.7 which occurred in Dec. 2001. All of it was received from Mon-Fri. It was the most insane thing I've ever witnessed but didn't take any video or pictures. =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I guess the jackass U of T student observer flunked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Just to get an idea of man-measured (non-nipher gauge) Toronto area snowfall winter-to-date: Buttonville: 148.3cm (58.4") North York: 124.8cm (49.1") East York: 116.2cm (45.7") I'd estimate the downtown number falls in between the EY and NY number. OB, is the Buttonville number representative of what your area of the city's seen or are they slant sticking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof96 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I'm at 125cm for the season. In line nicely with the NY station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Just to get an idea of man-measured (non-nipher gauge) Toronto area snowfall winter-to-date: Buttonville: 148.3cm (58.4") North York: 124.8cm (49.1") East York: 116.2cm (45.7") I'd estimate the downtown number falls in between the EY and NY number. OB, is the Buttonville number representative of what your area of the city's seen or are they slant sticking? I'm like in between Buttonville and North York for seasonal total. Nipher failed us yet again yesterday, LOL. In all seriousness, EC needs to get rid of the Nipher. Otherwise, our seasonal average will continue to be skewed at YYZ. How much is the seasonal total for YYZ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Just to get an idea of man-measured (non-nipher gauge) Toronto area snowfall winter-to-date: Buttonville: 148.3cm (58.4") North York: 124.8cm (49.1") East York: 116.2cm (45.7") I'd estimate the downtown number falls in between the EY and NY number. OB, is the Buttonville number representative of what your area of the city's seen or are they slant sticking? Buttonville always seems to closely match what my neighbourhood experiences. I'd say I'm somewhere between Buttonville and north York with regard to totals. The snow depth at Buttonville is similar to what I currently have in IMBY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 the 6z GFS seemed to continue the trend of colder solutions for tomorrow evening. Looks like we could see some ice pellets/freezing rain at the outset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 the 6z GFS seemed to continue the trend of colder solutions for tomorrow evening. Looks like we could see some ice pellets/freezing rain at the outset? 12z NAM stepped back from its 0z run but 12z RGEM stepped up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Temperature sky rocketing, up to 4.6C as of 12pm at YYZ. Sun is out and the snows melting away. Need some clouds. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 The temp peaked at 4.4C this morning, but it's down to 1.4C now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto4 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I'm like in between Buttonville and North York for seasonal total. Nipher failed us yet again yesterday, LOL. In all seriousness, EC needs to get rid of the Nipher. Otherwise, our seasonal average will continue to be skewed at YYZ. How much is the seasonal total for YYZ? 102.2 cm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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