Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 After a careful analysis I'm going to bring down my initial measurement, simply because of all the blowing snow thats been occurring through out the day. My revised storm total is now 27.0cm instead of 30.0cm. Snow depth now stands at 2 feet in my area Same here. Downsview reported 28 cm, and I got hit by the same heavy band as they did, so 27 cm is about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Lmaoo. Honestly, what you said always comes to my mind whenever theirs a storm. EC will do anything to lowball YYZ so it "fits in" with their forecast. Its a joke! EC needs to get its act together and make all these changes. First and foremost, get rid of the ****ing Nipher. How did you do with this storm? We had 2 dry slots and most of the area had 8-12 inches. Without those dry slots most of WNY would of had 10-15 inch totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Lmaoo. Honestly, what you said always comes to my mind whenever theirs a storm. EC will do anything to lowball YYZ so it "fits in" with their forecast. Its a joke! EC needs to get its act together and make all these changes. First and foremost, get rid of the ****ing Nipher. How did you do with this storm? Not too bad we should finish with around 8-9" in the city. We had 2 dry slots and most of the area had 8-12 inches. Without those dry slots most of WNY would of had 10-15 inch totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 We had 2 dry slots and most of the area had 8-12 inches. Without those dry slots most of WNY would of had 10-15 inch totals. Well thats still something. Congrats . Well we all got something to be happy about. Lets hope we can all get one more big dog storm haha Stay safe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Same here. Downsview reported 28 cm, and I got hit by the same heavy band as they did, so 27 cm is about right. Any idea what they use to measure snowfall at Downsview and Buttonville? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Lmaoo. Honestly, what you said always comes to my mind whenever theirs a storm. EC will do anything to lowball YYZ so it "fits in" with their forecast. Its a joke! EC needs to get its act together and make all these changes. First and foremost, get rid of the ****ing Nipher. How did you do with this storm? You're a broken record. You say this every storm but you don't have a shred of proof of it. Notice how EC included about a dozen other reports from the GTA in its storm summary that clearly evidence that it busted. If it was some concerted effort to whitewash their crappy forecasts wouldn't they have excluded those? Also, they issued a warning! Which means their final forecast for Toronto was for over 15cm to fall. Again, doesn't jibe with your conspiracy theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 And the final number at YYZ can't be 14cm because they were reporting that at noon. It snowed, at times heavily, for a couple of hours after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 17cm measured by a spotter in Waterloo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Same here. Downsview reported 28 cm, and I got hit by the same heavy band as they did, so 27 cm is about right. Guys, just because you came in a little higher than Downsview doesn't mean you have to adjust down. If you feel your number is legitimate then stick with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 You're a broken record. You say this every storm but you don't have a shred of proof of it. Notice how EC included about a dozen other reports from the GTA in its storm summary that clearly evidence that it busted. If it was some concerted effort to whitewash their crappy forecasts wouldn't they have excluded those? Also, they issued a warning! Which means their final forecast for Toronto was for over 15cm to fall. Again, doesn't jibe with your conspiracy theory. Hmm. perhaps I am over reacting then. But in fairness, YYZ whether it'd be rain or snow, usually seems to tally up the lowest number among all the other stations. And I understand your warning theory, but its clear Environment Canada needs to improve their system to better facilitate watches/warnings to the public. Alot of people were caught off guard today and thats no surprise. Cant blame EC! And the final number at YYZ can't be 14cm because they were reporting that at noon. It snowed, at times heavily, for a couple of hours after that. According to their summaries, its valid 4pm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof96 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Hmm. perhaps I am over reacting then. But in fairness, YYZ whether it'd be rain or snow, usually seems to tally up the lowest number among all the other stations. And I understand your warning theory, but its clear Environment Canada needs to improve their system to better facilitate watches/warnings to the public. Alot of people were caught off guard today and thats no surprise. Cant blame EC! According to their summaries, its valid 4pm... A nipher's gotta niph. There's no other explanation in windy storms like this. The weekend event is a perfect example of when it can function much more accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Hmm. perhaps I am over reacting then. But in fairness, YYZ whether it'd be rain or snow, usually seems to tally up the lowest number among all the other stations. And I understand your warning theory, but its clear Environment Canada needs to improve their system to better facilitate watches/warnings to the public. Alot of people were caught off guard today and thats no surprise. Cant blame EC! According to their summaries, its valid 4pm... The summaries aren't always gospel truth. For the Dec 14th event they had a final number of 17cm for downtown. Ended up actually being 28.5cm. It'll be too bad if the number is indeed 14cm because aside from that clipper, and maybe being a bit off for the Dec 14 storm, they didn't do to badly this year. 14cm when closer to 20cm probably fell is more than a little off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Any idea what they use to measure snowfall at Downsview and Buttonville? Downsview is man measured. Buttonville I'm not sure of but given some of the hefty numbers they usually come in with it'd be surprised if they used a nipher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHM Supercell Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The summaries aren't always gospel truth. For the Dec 14th event they had a final number of 17cm for downtown. Ended up actually being 28.5cm. It'll be too bad if the number is indeed 14cm because aside from that clipper, and maybe being a bit off for the Dec 14 storm, they didn't do to badly this year. 14cm when closer to 20cm probably fell is more than a little off. While YYZ's measuring system has significant systematic error, I can assure you that the EC mets do know that it is a false storm total snow, however being an official observation station, they record it in the weather summaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 THE VALUES IN THE TABLE BELOW REFLECT SNOWFALL TOTALS FROM THIS SNOW STORM, GATHERED UP TO 6 P.M TODAY FROM WEATHER OBSERVATION STATIONS AND VOLUNTEER WEATHER OBSERVERS. LOCATION TOTAL SNOWFALL AMOUNT (CENTIMETRES) WINDSOR 14 NIAGARA ESCARPMENT 21 GRIMSBY 21 TILLSONBURG 10 WATERLOO 17 HAMILTON 24 BRAMPTON 21 OAKVILLE 20.5 TORONTO PEARSON 14 SOUTH ETOBICOKE 22 DOWNSVIEW 28 VAUGHAN 21 WOODBRIDGE 22 EAST YORK 22 BUTTONVILLE AIRPORT 17 NORTH RICHMOND HILL 16 RICHMOND HILL 14 AURORA 15 AJAX 17 TORONTO RIVERDALE 18 TORONTO EAST YORK 20 TRENTON 12 KINGSTON 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Mom estimates 8" in central Etobicoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisale Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Measured 20.5cm here (added the kicker .5 to account for compacting, never cleared the board since 11pm last night). Not bad! The snowpack is massive. My yard looks amazing. Piles are up to my shoulders. I'm about 6'2". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisale Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 THE VALUES IN THE TABLE BELOW REFLECT SNOWFALL TOTALS FROM THIS SNOW STORM, GATHERED UP TO 6 P.M TODAY FROM WEATHER OBSERVATION STATIONS AND VOLUNTEER WEATHER OBSERVERS. LOCATION TOTAL SNOWFALL AMOUNT (CENTIMETRES) WINDSOR 14 NIAGARA ESCARPMENT 21 GRIMSBY 21 TILLSONBURG 10 WATERLOO 17 HAMILTON 24 BRAMPTON 21 OAKVILLE 20.5 TORONTO PEARSON 14 SOUTH ETOBICOKE 22 DOWNSVIEW 28 VAUGHAN 21 WOODBRIDGE 22 EAST YORK 22 BUTTONVILLE AIRPORT 17 NORTH RICHMOND HILL 16 RICHMOND HILL 14 AURORA 15 AJAX 17 TORONTO RIVERDALE 18 TORONTO EAST YORK 20 TRENTON 12 KINGSTON 10 Haha looks like my report made it in in time. Didn't think they'd include the decimal lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Measured 20.5cm here (added the kicker .5 to account for compacting, never cleared the board since 11pm last night). Not bad! The snowpack is massive. My yard looks amazing. Piles are up to my shoulders. I'm about 6'2". Great photos! Looks like heart of winter should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof96 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Thanks for all the contribs over the past little while guys. Truly an awesome thread to be a part of. Was a great idea to start the S On thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoaster Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Spoke with YorkU bud for a more official number, he said they ended up with 29.6cm, just shy of 30. Matches downsview pretty well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 You're a broken record. You say this every storm but you don't have a shred of proof of it. Notice how EC included about a dozen other reports from the GTA in its storm summary that clearly evidence that it busted. If it was some concerted effort to whitewash their crappy forecasts wouldn't they have excluded those? Also, they issued a warning! Which means their final forecast for Toronto was for over 15cm to fall. Again, doesn't jibe with your conspiracy theory. I agree with this. I also agree with some of the mets who say that a snowfall warning should have been issued for Toronto yesterday afternoon, by which time the models had clearly trended north with the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Impressive pics harrisale. That's deep winter right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 8.2 inch total. Over 122 inches on the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Haha looks like my report made it in in time. Didn't think they'd include the decimal lol! Great work/pics! Do you know how much snow has fallen in Oakville so far? 8.2 inch total. Over 122 inches on the year. Wow, 310cm or just over 3 metres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London snowsquall Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 8.2 inch total. Over 122 inches on the year. That's a nice total for a year and you still have a couple mths to go. You're about 30 inches ahead of me. Too damn many events with winds from the SW instead of the NW. The November event here on the city's west side was awesome however....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof96 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Looks like EC's night time low for YYZ could bust tonight. Wind is out of the north with strong CAA, clear skies and very strong albedo. Only thing holding us back are some gusty winds and an inversion holding strong just below 850. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Looks like EC's night time low for YYZ could bust tonight. Wind is out of the north with strong CAA, clear skies and very strong albedo. Only thing holding us back are some gusty winds and an inversion holding strong just below 850.Definitely possible as winds look to calm down later this evening. If they do, -20C is well within reach.I've been analyzing the pattern 10-15 days out and I do see a quick warmup around mid-month before another cool down to end the month off. Whats your take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 So you think you have a #snow problem? This is Bruce Cty Rd 1 outside Paisley, and me! Drift is about 600 feet long! pic.twitter.com/TzeUBd9J2X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof96 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Definitely possible as winds look to calm down later this evening. If they do, -20C is well within reach. I've been analyzing the pattern 10-15 days out and I do see a quick warmup around mid-month before another cool down to end the month off. Whats your take? The MJO has the potential to remain somewhat active over the western IO (~45-90E) for much of feb into early march. Thinking roundy plots are overdone with 200mb CHI over the IO based on the SST setup. We have also seen the tendency for weaker then modelled waves over this area so far this fall/winter, which is another red flag. For those reasons, the strat should have a larger influence on the pattern, which favours mean troughiness over the lakes(secondary trough over the GOA) and some WB blocking. This opens the doors for a cold and dry NW flow pattern before we see retrogression in the ferrel cell. The 10-15 day euro EPS mean has this reversal occurring by ~Feb 20th with a SE ridge strengthening and a gulf open to moisture/ WSW flow. Thats the period i'm watching for a return to more significant wintry wx across the lower lakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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