96blizz Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The city may get an ice storm, however just to the north up to POU better go to the store and get a generator. This is looking serious as for NYC it is touch and go.I wasnt kidding earlier when I said I went and bought one here in far NW NJ. My property has gorgeous pines and I'm terrified at what could happen if snow and sleet dont win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick-02540 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The snow still being stuck to a lot of the trees is a big worry for me. That should be able to soak up more of the rain and build up more ice. A large area of the region will look like Tunguska by Wednesday evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Perhaps all this worrying is for nothing as ice storms are extremely rare around here. I remember a couple years ago we had the most ice I can remember, and everything was caked in ice. First time I had to chisel away the ice from my car windows and the sidewalks and some of the secondary roads were a disaster. you are correct they are rare here, which makes them all the more hazardous when they happen. People see it raining and head out into catastrophe on black ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Down to 26 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCG RS Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Down to 26 here.If you wouldn't mind; where's here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I wasnt kidding earlier when I said I went and bought one here in far NW NJ. My property has gorgeous pines and I'm terrified at what could happen if snow and sleet dont win. I just had a repairman out to the house to get mine running. If you have a basement folks, it will fill up with groundwater when your sump pumps go. I'm hoping for sleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowmaster Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 We had just the slightest bit of freezing rain a couple weeks ago in Northern Ocean County and the roads were a disaster and glazed in ice, it caught people off guard too. There were tons of accidents, people need to realize how dangerous freezing rain is. The event you mention was among the worst I've seen in 35 years driving tin he back roads of Colt's Neck and Holmdel. Literally a skating rink and would so much rather be "worrrying" about more snow vs. ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Latest HRRR now has JFK to rain at 14z and LGA by 15-16Z but again by that alot odf damage may be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The event you mention was among the worst I've seen in 35 years driving tin he back roads of Colt's Neck and Holmdel. Literally a skating rink and would so much rather be "worrrying" about more snow vs. ice. Some of the side roads here tonight are bad enough since some of the snow melted today and formed black ice when we went back below 32. A layer of freezing rain and sleet tomorrow would be horrendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The event you mention was among the worst I've seen in 35 years driving tin he back roads of Colt's Neck and Holmdel. Literally a skating rink and would so much rather be "worrrying" about more snow vs. ice. The event you mention was among the worst I've seen in 35 years driving tin he back roads of Colt's Neck and Holmdel. Literally a skating rink and would so much rather be "worrrying" about more snow vs. ice. I remember my little girls poodle went skidding down the steps then slid across the patio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleetStormNJ Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 you are correct they are rare here, which makes them all the more hazardous when they happen. People see it raining and head out into catastrophe on black ice. This area doesn't handle ice storms well. Infrastructure or people in general. And that storm wasn't terrible despite a decent amount of ice. Some of the modeling suggests some areas may see historic icing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Latest HRRR now has JFK to rain at 14z and LGA by 15-16Z but again by that alot odf damage may be done 4KNAM is showing the same thing , then what`s left is drizzle for an 1 hour or 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick-02540 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 This area doesn't handle ice storms well. Infrastructure or people in general. And that storm wasn't terrible despite a decent amount of ice. Some of the modeling suggests some areas may see historic icing. People caught in that icing will be walking around looking like Jack Torrance from "The Shining." Stay indoors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 4KNAM is showing the same thing , then what`s left is drizzle for an 1 hour or 2 On the 4k NAM there doesn't look to be much steady precip after 15z. After that it's showery stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 This area doesn't handle ice storms well. Infrastructure or people in general. And that storm wasn't terrible despite a decent amount of ice. Some of the modeling suggests some areas may see historic icing. I learned my lesson back in 94; respect the snow, fear the ice, someone said. I have nothing good to say about ice storms and rejoice when they fail to materialize, much like snow haters rejoice when a storm is a miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 On the 4k NAM there doesn't look to be much steady precip after 15z. After that it's showery stuff. Light the Damage is Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Going to go on a gas run, just in case. See you folks later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleetStormNJ Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Any light rain on top of a snow and heavy glaze is just insult to injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I have doubts about us even getting to freezing tomorrow if the winds stay northerly or northeasterly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossi Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I have doubts about us even getting to freezing tomorrow if the winds stay northerly or northeasterly. Lets hope by chance it's sleet rather than freezing rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Mitchel/Snowgoose/Earthlight or any other pro (preferably): I asked this question earlier today in this thread and in the Philly thread and got no real answer. Perhaps I'm being too nitpicky, but it bugs me that I see no obvious explanation for the major discontinuities in snowfall predictions along the border between the NWS NYC and Philly counties. It almost looks like no collaboration occurred, which may be the case, given how much these guys have on their plates, or else I'm missing something important. Hard to understand having 4-6" snow in Union and 1-2" in adjacent Northern Somerset (inland, where one might expect less mixing/more snow, as long as it's not a total precip issue) or 2-4" in SI and <1" in adjacent (and further inland) Northern Middlesex. Those kinds of discontinuities simply can't be right (at worst it should go from 4-6" in Union to 2-4" in Somerset, for example - that provides continuity); see the maps below. Any chance you can shed light on this? If it's just that they have different opinions on the outcome of the storm, that's fine, but it would be nice to know that that's what it is. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 the ice storm in December 1973 deformed every pine tree and bush along the belt parkway in Brooklyn and Queens...Howard Beach and East New York (where I worked at the time) had at least an inch of ice everywhere...Streets were a skating rink...Where I lived we got more sleet so ice accumulations were less...Northern N.J. had more snow and sleet than ice...It started as snow but after an hour or so it changed to freezing rain as northerly winds dropped temperatures into the 20's and low 20's at night...The 24 hour storm ended with temperatures in the 20's...I drove to work that morning and saw a few trees that fell under the weight of the ice...later that year there were a few more icing events that started as snow or ended as snow...That year had more ice than any year from the 60's and 70's...1993-94 had more ice but didn't have a storm like Dec. 73...The ice wasn't forecast as I remember but it was 40 years ago and I could be wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yhbrooklyn Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The same thing happened yesterday and PHI busted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Looks like consensus on the HRRR and RAP....between 9 and 10 AM, from west to east starting in NYC and NE NJ....we switch to plain rain after 0.90" qpf frozen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 00z NAM total ZR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Latest HRRR now has JFK to rain at 14z and LGA by 15-16Z but again by that alot odf damage may be done yea and it gives me 12 plus inches of snow lol. what a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96blizz Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 00z NAM total ZR That's actually South of where it had been. Can I presume just to the North there is a lot of Sleet Yanks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 00z NAM total IP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 00z NAM total ZR That's like 1/2" ice across LI with up to 3/4" east of LGA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Lets hope by chance it's sleet rather than freezing rain. yes sleet doesn't usually cause any major power outage problems - the last sleet fest a few years ago in february was difficult to shovel though http://www.raymondcmartinjr.com/weather/2007/14-Feb-07.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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