MAG5035 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I'm having a hard time seeing how we have a crippling ice storm down here IF the EURO's text data comes true. For MDT it shows close to 6" of snow followed by a rapid transition to rain near the very end with less than 0.2" total liquid after the transition. Seems to me there would have to be some major warm tongue between 850 and the surface to create the heavy ZR scenario. I'm not trying to discount all the other model's and especially if Horst is worried, but the EURO along now with the UKIE try to keep 850 near or even slightly below zero during the meat of the storm in vicinity of MDT. I'll have 925 mb (approx 3k feet) temp data here in a bit when I am able to see the full Euro. But if it is anything like the 0z run, 925 temps were quite cold..especially in the central third of the state. At 60 hrs with the best precip we had -4C temps dipping all the way the the MD border. The 0C line ran just above the MD border in the LSV. The cold 925 temps in the central third of the state were highly indicative of more of a sleet outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Regardless if its snow. sleet or frzn for next event, what is the start time? 2-3am Wednesday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Regardless if its snow. sleet or frzn for next event, what is the start time? 2-3am Wednesday? Between 10pm and 1am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Nice pics Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Between 10pm and 1am thanks Zak. when i looked earlier i thought it looked about the same as this, mess for morning rush hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I'm an over achiever today 1.5" of snow wasn't expecting to break an 1" Some maintenance on my snow blowers today. Is it Wednesday yet? Happy to see everyone getting some decent totals....But has to be a PITA to clean up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfox1 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 thing with text data is that the .2 C for 850 temp at 12z doesnt let us know when that transition from below 0 to above 0 occurs... we could see most of the 6 hour precip as snow or it could transition in the middle of that period... plus it only shows 850 and surface temps so when there is a warm layer at 800 we dont see it on the text data really coming down now in what I have a feeling is the final burst here... much drier snow so the best ratios we have seen all morning occurring now Yea I noticed that the snow is drier the last couple hours. You can actually see the drier snow on top of the concrete snow on trees and rounded surfaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Dang this last band has done some work, at 3.5" and still snowing decently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I'm an over achiever today 1.5" of snow wasn't expecting to break an 1" Some maintenance on my snow blowers today. Is it Wednesday yet? Happy to see everyone getting some decent totals....But has to be a PITA to clean up. oh it is. I plowed earlier, but let an older guy plow this afternoon, i shoveled. Chits like shoveling concrete. Is it to early to start drinking? with the other snows, it was brutal cold out, but today its warm enough to work up a serious case of swamp A$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennMan Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 Dang this last band has done some work, at 3.5" and still snowing decently. Same total here, just measured out behind the office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 This is my favorite storm in a few years. I hope Saturday it gets to kve to 2nd place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 .79" ZR eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 DT posted images of the ECM run - for once, a BM tracker has a significant QPF shield verbatim lol. Too bad it will change. (2/8-10) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 7 to 8 inches of heavy wet snow...postcard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfox1 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Last good end of snow band over me now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Same total here, just measured out behind the office. Just measured 3.5" here as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I live in west york, nothing real heavy. A moderate snow at best. This belongs in banter. You are either purposely trolling OR you are never happy. We'll work on a KU just for you. 7.5" down and still snowing. Great storm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillvilleWx Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 This belongs in banter. You are either purposely trolling OR you are never happy. We'll work on a KU just for you. 7.5" down and still snowing. Great storm! Snowing great in Millersville right now. What a fine way to end it. Probably close to, if not over 8" of snow on campus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Headlines down from this event. Should see next ones go up real soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 DT posted images of the ECM run - for once, a BM tracker has a significant QPF shield verbatim lol. Too bad it will change. (2/8-10) These storms seem to trend somewhat north as we near them. Of course I should shut up or else Tue night's storm does that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 These storms seem to trend somewhat north as we near them. Of course I should shut up or else Tue night's storm does that.... Yeah, don't jinx it, Jamie! Seriously, though... I like where we stand so far with the weekend storm. But we've got a long way to go with it still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Now this is a little bit more in the line of what I was thinking ice wise, probably with probably more towards warning levels in the LSV as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Moist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 This final weenie band is nuking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Now this is a little bit more in the line of what I was thinking ice wise, probably with probably more towards warning levels in the LSV as well. Yep, if I had to make an ice map, that's pretty much exactly what it would look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Now this is a little bit more in the line of what I was thinking ice wise, probably with probably more towards warning levels in the LSV as well. StormTotalIce.png They trimmed the ice a lot more then I thought down here, wonder why? More sleet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr5001 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 well that didnt take long to change already..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 i can't wait to see some your numbers for those of you who do ratio's. Still light snow in Harrisburg and i'm putting this in my book as 6.25" as that was my last measurement. I know it can't be correct with the compaction, but thats all i have to go by. i understand downed trees and power lines are still an issue. Thank god there was no wind associated with this. I honestly never thought i would have my highest snowfall to date today. I was expecting 3, 5 tops. Awesome surprise. edit to add- http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2014/02/power_outages_snow_storm.html#incart_river_default Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Now this is a little bit more in the line of what I was thinking ice wise, probably with probably more towards warning levels in the LSV as well. StormTotalIce.png Agreed, not sure where the widespread .25+ was coming from. My primary worry remains potentially underforecast WAA resulting in sleet. EDIT: CTP seems to be banking on that with a forecast of 4-6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkpa25 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Absolutely Ripping in west york. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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