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Central PA and The Fringes - February 2014


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Like I said, I'd be happy with half of the 6-8" it's showing. Not expecting above 2-3".

 

I'm setting my expectations at 2" here, since thats around what i've had the last couple of these events. 3-4" would be be ideal to replace the lost snow over the weekend (especially today). 

 

Meanwhile i'll hope the last couple RAP runs are right haha. 

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Is State College asleep? Seriously! After that 12z Euro run, most if not all the LSV should have a WSW, especially the southern tier counties... :axe:

YUP!  Was at the grocery store an hour ago and some guy in front of me was telling the cashier that he heard only 1-2 inches and the storm was going to be no big deal with almost all rain in Hunt Valley, MD,  LOL!  Hope he is not making any opening and closing decisions for the general public. An Advisory makes it sound like a minor nuisance. :axe:   Way to go State College. 

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Talked to a met from there. They are still looking at the GFS ens. Best just to know what we are getting and not rely on them. A warning doesn't mean it will or won't snow 6". 

 

Yeah, I never could understand the big deal about the watches and warnings. We get what we get anyway. I guess to some they're like a status symbol.

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I'm setting my expectations at 2" here, since thats around what i've had the last couple of these events. 3-4" would be be ideal to replace the lost snow over the weekend (especially today). 

 

Meanwhile i'll hope the last couple RAP runs are right haha. 

Altoona? That seems like a decent spot for the storm tomorrow. Kind of borderline though, maybe a band on the NW edge can help you out? York, PA should be good.

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YUP!  Was at the grocery store an hour ago and some guy in front of me was telling the cashier that he heard only 1-2 inches and the storm was going to be no big deal with almost all rain in Hunt Valley, MD,  LOL!  Hope he is not making any opening and closing decisions for the general public. An Advisory makes it sound like a minor nuisance. :axe:   Way to go State College. 

 

Hunt Valley may actually be on the rain/snow line at the height of the storm, but saying "only 1-2", no big deal" is really ****ing reckless. Seems like 2-5" is the rough consensus there but any tiny change can make or break the difference between 1" and 7".

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Talked to a met from there. They are still looking at the GFS ens. Best just to know what we are getting and not rely on them. A warning doesn't mean it will or won't snow 6". 

 

It's not like the 12z GFS ensembles are a complete miss, has a broad area of 0.25-0.50 at the 24 hour frame that gets nearly to UNV and a bit more in the LSV hour 30. In my opinion I see enough to at least upgrade Franklin-Adams-York-Lancaster counties to a 4-8 type warning. 

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Yeah, I never could understand the big deal about the watches and warnings. We get what we get anyway. I guess to some they're like a status symbol.

Only problem is people that open businesses etc watch local news from a day before, or some radio DJ who says "only an Advisory no big deal" and people get sent to work in it, then when it hits the fan can't makes it home, wreck, or Commutergeddon commences when everyone is told to leave work at the same time because it is "worse than expected". 

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Of course we all know where that will be...lol

I'd sure like to squeak out 3" from this one though. As for the mid-week storm, I'm not liking the major ice showing up on the models. I'd prefer all snow, snow to sleet, or all rain. 3/4 inch of ice would not be good at all. Especially with the cold air that supposedly follows.

euro upped muir aaf to over .6 qpf. So even with the gradient that bodes well for us. Granted you are about 20 miles further north then me. I'm cautiously optimistic we do better this time.
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Altoona? That seems like a decent spot for the storm tomorrow. Kind of borderline though, maybe a band on the NW edge can help you out? York, PA should be good.

 

I'm about 8 miles north of Altoona, but yea hopefully we can overachieve. The late northern trends haven't worked out in my local area the last couple events that focused along the turnpike and south. I said a day or two ago that I think this one has a better chance than those ones did to end up further north with things given that colder temps are likely to be sluggish to work south and the frontal passage isn't drilling in any kind of a very cold air mass. 

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My opinion but unless you have a red tag bashing CTP is not cool.

 

I don't think anyone should be bashing them, even red-taggers. There are some incredibly smart and insightful mets working up there. They have made a choice on which solution to follow, and they have their reasons for doing so. We may not all agree, but that's what makes this profession awesome...there is no right answer until after the storm has passed. 

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