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Monday Mauler or Monday Bawler? part II


DDweatherman

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Whether it accumulates or not it sure does sound like a period of some heavy snow tv for most....

 

Whomever gets in some sweet band will really enjoy what falls. Over .5" in 6 hours is a dump of stuff

 

It is looking that way. Prob gonna work from home tomorrow as it could be snowing by daybreak

  

Sleep-in snow is awesome

Latest RAP backed off highs today.  Last night's runs were showing highs into the mid 60s here.  Now it looks like upper 50s to near 60.

Still too warm IMO. I want to be at 36 for the high. Then I would believe

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Tough call for cwg. 1-11 inches ?

Yeah, luckily, I'm not the article writer today though I'm sure I'll be called to talk about it.  We've been burned so many times the last three years, it's possible we're gun shy.   I'd probably show a sounding or two that shows the temps right at freezing through a deep layer if it were me.  Of course,  the next run of the nam could jump back warm like yesterday's 

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Wes...what is the actual forecast high today. I'm seeing 48-55 range. What temp do we start to panic?

I'm not sure we panic but temps should be in the mid 50s from dc south and some may nudge above 55.  The models have that.  I still worry about the DCA and the urban temps as we've been burned a couple of times in the last two years with the nam showing temps getting to freezing with high rates only to have the temps stay above freezing longer.

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I know theres a big level of uncertainty here, but are any of you putting faith in one of this winter's most accurate models: the Canadian?

DC is in game, but no one seems to be jumping over anything.  That model's been outputting the same thing for days.  I don't think it's just 'on to something' with EURO and (new) NAM support.

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I know theres a big level of uncertainty here, but are any of you putting faith in one of this winter's most accurate models: the Canadian?

DC is in game, but no one seems to be jumping over anything. That model's been outputting the same thing for days. I don't think it's just 'on to something' with EURO and (new) NAM support.

That is news to me. I thought the Canadian still scores lower than the Euro and GFS. At least at 500mb. Also the Euro has held onto its current solution before the GEM.

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I'll know by 7am whether I'm in trouble or not. If i'm in trouble I'll have to chase. Prob take less than 30 mins to get there

I've never done that, but I just might as I am off tomorrow. If we have nothing in Germantown and it's snowing heavily in northern MD, I might have to go to Hagerstown for lunch. Just a 45-50 minute drive!

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The part when he nailed the forecast for the January 2nd-3rd storm....That was one of his finest hours.

Yep. I just get irritated at how much he pimps his Weather App and how he makes people think the Canadian is the new Euro by only comparing it against the GFS. I still like him though :)

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27h is pretty nice, too.

For you but DCA.....look at the warm layer at 750 mb.  Would be a sleet sounding. 

Date: 27 hour Eta valid 15Z MON  3 FEB 14Station: KDCALatitude:   38.85Longitude: -77.03-------------------------------------------------------------------------------LEV PRES  HGHT  TEMP  DEWP  RH  DD   WETB DIR SPD THETA THE-V THE-W THE-E   W     mb     m     C     C    %   C     C  deg knt   K     K     K     K    g/kg-------------------------------------------------------------------------------SFC 1013    57   0.1  -0.6  94  0.8  -0.2  11  10 272.3 272.9 272.3 282.0  3.60  1 1000   162  -0.8                       16  16 272.3                          2  950   570  -0.9  -1.0  99  0.1  -1.0  50  26 276.2 276.9 274.8 286.5  3.73  3  900  1002  -1.1  -1.2 100  0.1  -1.2  49  21 280.3 281.0 277.2 291.2  3.89  4  850  1458  -0.8  -0.8 100  0.0  -0.8  84  14 285.3 286.0 280.1 297.3  4.24  5  800  1944   0.2   0.2 100  0.0   0.2 192  20 291.4 292.2 283.5 305.4  4.84  6  750  2464   1.4   1.4 100  0.0   1.4 223  45 298.1 299.1 287.0 314.7  5.63  7  700  3017  -0.9  -0.9 100  0.0  -0.9 241  55 301.5 302.4 287.7 316.9  5.11  8  650  3607  -3.1  -3.3  98  0.2  -3.1 243  61 305.5 306.4 288.6 319.7  4.63  9  600  4237  -6.9  -7.8  94  0.9  -7.3 248  59 308.1 308.7 288.5 319.2  3.54 10  550  4910 -11.7 -13.1  89  1.4 -12.2 251  68 310.2 310.6 288.2 318.3  2.53 11  500  5634 -15.2 -16.8  87  1.6 -15.7 242  76 314.5 314.9 289.1 321.2  2.05 12  450  6425 -19.5 -21.3  85  1.8 -20.0 227  81 318.8 319.1 290.0 324.0  1.55 13  400  7289 -25.8 -28.2  80  2.4 -26.3 223  87 321.4 321.6 290.2 324.7  0.94 14  350  8240 -33.7 -36.8  74  3.0 -34.1 225  87 323.3 323.4 290.3 325.0  0.47 15  300  9299 -43.5 -47.5  65  3.9 -43.7 232  96 324.0 324.0 290.2 324.7  0.18 16  250 10500 -51.6                      239 107 329.3                         17  200 11923 -57.4                      239 101 341.8                         18  150 13744 -58.0                      254  99 370.2                         19  100 16221 -70.6                      253  82 391.3                
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For you but DCA.....look at the warm layer at 750 mb.  Would be a sleet sounding. 

Date: 27 hour Eta valid 15Z MON  3 FEB 14Station: KDCALatitude:   38.85Longitude: -77.03-------------------------------------------------------------------------------LEV PRES  HGHT  TEMP  DEWP  RH  DD   WETB DIR SPD THETA THE-V THE-W THE-E   W     mb     m     C     C    %   C     C  deg knt   K     K     K     K    g/kg-------------------------------------------------------------------------------SFC 1013    57   0.1  -0.6  94  0.8  -0.2  11  10 272.3 272.9 272.3 282.0  3.60  1 1000   162  -0.8                       16  16 272.3                          2  950   570  -0.9  -1.0  99  0.1  -1.0  50  26 276.2 276.9 274.8 286.5  3.73  3  900  1002  -1.1  -1.2 100  0.1  -1.2  49  21 280.3 281.0 277.2 291.2  3.89  4  850  1458  -0.8  -0.8 100  0.0  -0.8  84  14 285.3 286.0 280.1 297.3  4.24  5  800  1944   0.2   0.2 100  0.0   0.2 192  20 291.4 292.2 283.5 305.4  4.84  6  750  2464   1.4   1.4 100  0.0   1.4 223  45 298.1 299.1 287.0 314.7  5.63  7  700  3017  -0.9  -0.9 100  0.0  -0.9 241  55 301.5 302.4 287.7 316.9  5.11  8  650  3607  -3.1  -3.3  98  0.2  -3.1 243  61 305.5 306.4 288.6 319.7  4.63  9  600  4237  -6.9  -7.8  94  0.9  -7.3 248  59 308.1 308.7 288.5 319.2  3.54 10  550  4910 -11.7 -13.1  89  1.4 -12.2 251  68 310.2 310.6 288.2 318.3  2.53 11  500  5634 -15.2 -16.8  87  1.6 -15.7 242  76 314.5 314.9 289.1 321.2  2.05 12  450  6425 -19.5 -21.3  85  1.8 -20.0 227  81 318.8 319.1 290.0 324.0  1.55 13  400  7289 -25.8 -28.2  80  2.4 -26.3 223  87 321.4 321.6 290.2 324.7  0.94 14  350  8240 -33.7 -36.8  74  3.0 -34.1 225  87 323.3 323.4 290.3 325.0  0.47 15  300  9299 -43.5 -47.5  65  3.9 -43.7 232  96 324.0 324.0 290.2 324.7  0.18 16  250 10500 -51.6                      239 107 329.3                         17  200 11923 -57.4                      239 101 341.8                         18  150 13744 -58.0                      254  99 370.2                         19  100 16221 -70.6                      253  82 391.3                

Yeah but looking at the sim radar by 27 our death band is gone anyway so we'd likely be done accumulating in these marginal temps.  We need 24 to be good.....it looks super marginal in Silver Spring so I'm assuming DCA not good.

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