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February General Model/Pattern Discussion Thread


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I'm so done with the brutal cold (today was another -40 windchill morning) while PHL and NYC break snowfall records, lol. I was talking to someone at the mountain today visiting from southern Quebec and it seemed like they haven't had that much snow this winter, but weeks of brutal cold/dry. He said their biggest snows were around Xmas, probably when we had that string of rain and ice storms in New England.

Hopefully we can see temps moderate a bit on those progs and likewise the baroclinic zone lift a little more northwest. Going to be hard with the snowpack right to the coast though. Any system will want to find its way out east over the warmer ocean modified air before going to town. Darn near perfect patterns been playing out this winter for PWM to PHL....arctic air going right to the coast and boundary being out over the ocean, as opposed to marginal cold air only seeping into NY state and CNE/NNE and a boundary more on the coastal plain.

 

I will take 20's and snow all day long :)

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I'm so done with the brutal cold (today was another -40 windchill morning) while PHL and NYC break snowfall records, lol. I was talking to someone at the mountain today visiting from southern Quebec and it seemed like they haven't had that much snow this winter, but weeks of brutal cold/dry. He said their biggest snows were around Xmas, probably when we had that string of rain and ice storms in New England.

Hopefully we can see temps moderate a bit on those progs and likewise the baroclinic zone lift a little more northwest. Going to be hard with the snowpack right to the coast though. Any system will want to find its way out east over the warmer ocean modified air before going to town. Darn near perfect patterns been playing out this winter for PWM to PHL....arctic air going right to the coast and boundary being out over the ocean, as opposed to marginal cold air only seeping into NY state and CNE/NNE and a boundary more on the coastal plain.

as you post pics of twenty foot drifts and have an impenetrable snowpack. Your winter could be until May this year.
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as you post pics of twenty foot drifts and have an impenetrable snowpack. Your winter could be until May this year.

Haha, right I've figured it out. It's not an atrocious winter like I was thinking in January. It's more the frustration of not being in the game in a lot of these big snow producers that the rest of the forum is. I'll admit it, I love tracking winter storms. It's not as much the actual snowfall amounts (heck we were quasi-porked in the last event with 9-12" locally compared to other areas around us, but that's fine), it's about being able to track systems that you are "in the game" on. I'm not sure if that makes any sense. It's been very active. The area from PWM to PHL has been "in the game" on every event. That's epic. It's almost about the chase at this point more than the totals. It's fun to have important model runs and to analyze them for your backyard in the lead up...even if you get a relative screw zone, you were in the hunt.

It's sort of like baseball...where you can have a decent season on paper but were never really in the hunt because a couple teams were outstanding. It makes for a boring September. However, you can have the same outcome of not making the playoffs, but you were in the hunt till the end. It's a tough loss but at least you got to enjoy the chase. That's sort of what model watching is like, haha. If you are in the hunt for storms it's exciting, even if you still get shafted in the end...if you aren't even in it hunt, it's sort of boring.

Maybe that doesn't make sense, hopefully I'm explaining that correctly, haha. I'm fine with where we are right now for snowpack and such, but would be nice to share some of these events with you guys...the lead up discussion is fun.

Fascinating pattern though, I'd take my chances with this sort of pattern any day. Just like 2009-2010 was frustrating for SNE because the big storms were close by, and you sort of got hit once in a while, but you also watched a bunch of biggies just miss. You know you'd take that pattern again though and roll the dice.

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Haha, right I've figured it out. It's not an atrocious winter like I was thinking in January. It's more the frustration of not being in the game in a lot of these big snow producers that the rest of the forum is. I'll admit it, I love tracking winter storms. It's not as much the actual snowfall amounts (heck we were quasi-porked in the last event with 9-12" locally compared to other areas around us, but that's fine), it's about being able to track systems that you are "in the game" on. I'm not sure if that makes any sense. It's been very active. The area from PWM to PHL has been "in the game" on every event. That's epic. It's almost about the chase at this point more than the totals. It's fun to have important model runs and to analyze them for your backyard in the lead up...even if you get a relative screw zone, you were in the hunt.

It's sort of like baseball...where you can have a decent season on paper but were never really in the hunt because a couple teams were outstanding. It makes for a boring September. However, you can have the same outcome of not making the playoffs, but you were in the hunt till the end. It's a tough loss but at least you got to enjoy the chase. That's sort of what model watching is like, haha. If you are in the hunt for storms it's exciting, even if you still get shafted in the end...if you aren't even in it hunt, it's sort of boring.

Maybe that doesn't make sense, hopefully I'm explaining that correctly, haha. I'm fine with where we are right now for snowpack and such, but would be nice to share some of these events with you guys...the lead up discussion is fun.

Fascinating pattern though, I'd take my chances with this sort of pattern any day. Just like 2009-2010 was frustrating for SNE because the big storms were close by, and you sort of got hit once in a while, but you also watched a bunch of biggies just miss. You know you'd take that pattern again though and roll the dice.

12Z Euro is actually pretty juicy for you Sun Monday thats a big trackable feature. I totally get what you are saying but honestly bro, look at it this way, this cold and snow is not going to just go poof as the days get longer your area becomes smack dab in the bullseye of a strengthening STJ pattern, Pac nino is warming up, the juices are flowing. might be one for the ages.

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12Z Euro is actually pretty juicy for you Sun Monday thats a big trackable feature. I totally get what you are saying but honestly bro, look at it this way, this cold and snow is not going to just go poof as the days get longer your area becomes smack dab in the bullseye of a strengthening STJ pattern, Pac nino is warming up, the juices are flowing. might be one for the ages.

 

Yeah, I do agree with you.  If we keep the below normal cold, eventually the seasonal transition of the flow lifting north should put us in the sweet spot for a little bit.  March could be very good.  And yes, I do like that our pack in town at 18-20" is not pure fluff.  That last storm added another 1" of melted to the pack.  If we pick up some good snows in March, it can grow pretty darn quickly from here to very sweet levels.

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