CT Rain Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Who said anything about that town? I meant as a whole. I don't see zr being a problem except far far s ct and even there not 6 hours more I guess you don't understand how the analog guidance works. I don't know what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Dave Epstein http://www.boston.com/news/weather/weather_wisdom/assets_c/2014/02/Wednesday%20storm8pm-thumb-599x478-125364.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 0z NAM could still potentially signal some temp issues. 1000/500 get toasty fast, 1000/850 hold on.... I'll go 3-4" here still tops. But we will see I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Winds? No idea about down there but up here they will be nothing noteworthy...not uncommon in a situation with duel low pressure systems and no bombing low to generate any pressure gradient. If imagine they won't be that bad anywhere in New England. Just strikes as a situation where wind isn't a big player, but with ice sometimes even 10-20mph can be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Those are only 12Z data plots. 18Z tomorrow is +4C.Oh, sorry, saw these and figured the lines were based on real plots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Oh, sorry, saw these and figured the lines were based on real plots. the weather.us maps only plot 12Z and 00Z too so you will miss what happens at 6/18Z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Windcredible! Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 We got .25 down here from 12/15 storm. I really would be surprsied if it rains here, but it's not out of the realm of possibilities. Yeah...that 12/15 event was interesting. We went above freezing here in Clinton around midnight with only a very light glaze...while HVN dropped several degrees at the same time and ended with some decent icing. I drove west on I95 the next day and it went from no visible icing to a very solid glaze over the course of just a mile or so around Branford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Those are only 12Z data plots. 18Z tomorrow is +4C. Oh man so those plots we've been looking at just connect the 12z temp dots? I thought they included other hours rather than 12z but I guess it doesn't. That's a really misleading piece of guidance then, shouldn't connect the dots and should just plot 12z temp as is...it makes it seem linear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 i can see heavy heavy sleet tomorrow mid morning in sw ct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Oh man so those plots we've been looking at just connect the 12z temp dots? I thought they included other hours rather than 12z but I guess it doesn't. That's a really misleading piece of guidance then, shouldn't connect the dots and should just plot 12z temp as is...it makes it seem linear.yes, sad, especially with the individual Ens shown. Oh well, don't know where Brian gets them but obviously not for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjn Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I think northern Middlesex and Worcester Counties up toward the southern NH counties will see a solid band of 10-14. I made a map but it pretty much looks like Tauntons map. I think some higher snowfall totals will make it a bit farther south than some maps were showing. CT/MA border around 10in and even southern CT I would be surprised to see 6 inches. They are getting plenty of QPF and there will be some mixing, possibly freezing rain for a bit, but some of these maps showing northern CT and RI getting 2-5 or whatever I think is far too low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Oh man so those plots we've been looking at just connect the 12z temp dots? I thought they included other hours rather than 12z but I guess it doesn't. That's a really misleading piece of guidance then, shouldn't connect the dots and should just plot 12z temp as is...it makes it seem linear. I thought it looked obvious looking at the charts at first glance. The SD boxes and line segment are at 24hr intervals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 NAM has like 1.5-2''/hr snows for 6 hours between 12z and 18z NE MA and SNH lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxsniss Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 0z NAM could still potentially signal some temp issues. 1000/500 get toasty fast, 1000/850 hold on.... I'll go 3-4" here still tops. But we will see I suppose. 850s ticked colder than 18z run at 18z Wed more confident 5-7" is safe for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjn Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 My guess for jackpot is somewhere around Gardner, MA getting about 14-15 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Convergence anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 yes, sad, especially with the individual Ens shown. Oh well, don't know where Brian gets them but obviously not for free. Yeah such a great tool...but I guess still useful for the snapshots in time as long as we know the caveats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjn Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Plenty of good snowfall rates in southern NE according to HRRR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I thought it looked obvious looking at the charts at first glance. The SD boxes and line segment are at 24hr intervals. Yeah that one does, I was confused and more thinking the ensemble line plots (the second one Ginxy posted). I just don't get why draw lines if it's not filling in the other times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 850s ticked colder than 18z run at 18z Wed more confident 5-7" is safe for you Upper mid-levels are warmer from H75-H8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Pretty even qpf distro on the NAM--love to all. No qpf worries, better start worrying about snow-growth. I have my shawl at the ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Upper mid-levels are warmer from H75-H8. Yes. Wxniss we just see these "sneaky" warm layers so often. I will take the under and go 3-4" where most have me 5-8. Ironically i have a warning tonight when i couldn't buy an advisory for 4.5 the other day. Awaiting other guidance. Consensus on start times in providence and Boston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 i'm toast on the nam. zr forever and ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Huge 750mb warm punch on the 00z NAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Huge 750mb warm punch on the 00z NAM Ouch I just looked quickly but it was on the 1000/500 slice which was toasty. 1000/8 was better so I figured there was a hefty warm finger above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxsniss Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Yes. Wxniss we just see these "sneaky" warm layers so often. I will take the under and go 3-4" where most have me 5-8. Ironically i have a warning tonight when i couldn't buy an advisory for 4.5 the other day. Awaiting other guidance. Consensus on start times in providence and Boston? the warm tongue at 18z off twister, column is snow 15z and before... Timing is really close but hopefully you pull off at least 0.4-0.5" qpf before this layer warms... or that EC soundings are more correct meanwhile, 0z RAP continues on steroids... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 NAM seems to be the most aggressive with that warm tongue, but the euro is not far behind. It's certainly possible with the origins of this system and would fit the character of these types of storms. Ironically, it's this plume of warm and moist air the nukes the area prior to any taint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 NAM seems to be the most aggressive with that warm tongue, but the euro is not far behind. It's certainly possible with the origins of this system and would fit the character of these types of storms. Ironically, it's this plume of warm and moist air the nukes the area prior to any taint. This is where snow totals can we thrown off when it's dumping 1-2"/hr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Scott throw up the next 6 hrs, cripes Messenger is cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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