Baroclinic Zone Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 18z NAM changes TAN over to mixed precip after 15z but before 18z. (10am-1pm) Should come down pretty hard in the AM for a few hours for the SE MA folks. 5"+ is pretty good right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 AWT. We are going to give this warning thing a try....6+ in 12 hours to verify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Sleet won't make a difference but lousy snow growth and poor ratios may. That's my concern. Well on the bright side, if you get 9" of lousy snowgrowth snow with a few pingers in it, its not going to sublimate/compress into 4" like a foot of fairy dust fluff did earlier this winter. 1/4 mile vis of baking powder isn't as asthetically pleasing to look at as perfect fluffy arctic-airmass dendrites, but you do get some serious lasting power out of the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Man that 18z NAM is just a crushing blow along the MA/NH/VT borders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Man that 18z NAM is just a crushing blow along the MA/NH/VT borders.Typical overdone though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 NAM goes bonkers in S VT/NH and N MA. 0.75" in 3hr for Dom tomorrow AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 fluff to paste to fluff. I'm PUMPED. Maybe a little sleet. You won't get paste at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Typical overdone thoughTotal QPF is pretty close to the euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 You won't get paste at all.Is it that cold at the surface? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 NAM goes bonkers in S VT/NH and N MA. 0.75" in 3hr for Dom tomorrow AM. I approve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I don't see lousy snowgrowth with this at its heaviest point. The lift is so deep that it traverses more favorable DGZ. It won't have the best flakes...but I don't think it will be the baking powder stuff either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Is it that cold at the surface? You won't get out of the 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Total QPF is pretty close to the euro. Yeah, the NAM actually does not looks too bad right now from what I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Total QPF is pretty close to the euro.I think that might be overdone as well. Going climo here10" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Perhaps at the onset it may be lousy flakes...but I don't think it will be that sugar stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Is it that cold at the surface? Surface temps are right around 32F. http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/ETAPA_18z/etaloop.html http://68.226.77.253/text/meso/NAM_Kbos.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowMan Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 NAM goes bonkers in S VT/NH and N MA. 0.75" in 3hr for Dom tomorrow AM. We'll take it lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Some of the hi res models have weenie OES stuff tomorrow night too...esp ern PYM county. Enough for an inch or a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Surface temps are right around 32F. http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/ETAPA_18z/etaloop.html He's definitely staying below 30F. Probably U20s at the warmest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I don't see lousy snowgrowth with this at its heaviest point. The lift is so deep that it traverses more favorable DGZ. It won't have the best flakes...but I don't think it will be the baking powder stuff either. Looks like the hires NAM keeps things just cold enough for snow along & north of the pike. That's comforting. Great juice, too. Oddly an early dry slot feels suddenly more concerning than ptype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Congrats...1st of the season? 2nd warning issuance but the 1st one didn't verify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRWEATHA Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Do temps go above freezing here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 No wet snow here with a high of 22F.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I don't see lousy snowgrowth with this at its heaviest point. The lift is so deep that it traverses more favorable DGZ. It won't have the best flakes...but I don't think it will be the baking powder stuff either. I was convinced of this same thing before 12/13/07...then we got 1/4 SM baking powder for 8 hours. Still not sure why because the lift was pretty deep in that and it penetrated the SGZ. It's still one of my bigger forecasting mysteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Looks like the hires NAM keeps things just cold enough for snow along & north of the pike. That's comforting. Great juice, too. Oddly an early dry slot feels suddenly more concerning than ptype. I could see a few pings for you as the dryslot nears. The lift aids in dynamic cooling so when you lose that...the warm air can flood in quicker. It may go to some showery stuff of IP and SN depending on the lift and perhaps even shut off. However it's probably going to rip from like 8-1pm or so...I mean come down dam hard. If we are lucky, maybe another inch by evening as some lighter snows try to redevelop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 It looks like with lingering lift below 850 and high rh..the whole region sees lingering snows tomorrow night..Not just E Ma..enough for a 1-2 type fluffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 He's definitely staying below 30F. Probably U20s at the warmest.I think he thinks I'm in Southie then rather than Andover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I was convinced of this same thing before 12/13/07...then we got 1/4 SM baking powder for 8 hours. Still not sure why because the lift was pretty deep in that and it penetrated the SGZ. It's still one of my bigger forecasting mysteries. That's true...I thought IIRC it was more 700mb? I may be wrong tomorrow...but just my guess. By no means am I saying dendrites...probably some half azz flakes...but that had to be the most putrid snowgrowth ever...lol. I should note the DGZ is rather shallow in depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I think he thinks I'm in Southie then rather than Andover. yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 It looks like with lingering lift below 850 and high rh..the whole region sees lingering snows tomorrow night..Not just E Ma..enough for a 1-2 type flufferThat will mostly be north of the Pike, but maybe if you keep saying it it will come true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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