CoastalWx Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Solid warning into CNE. No EV for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Definitely a shift S & E from 18z & 12z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Looking more and more like a big impact day Wednesday given the timing. No matter what, I'm working. Weenie day though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 No EV for you. Not with this run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Absolutely. 12/13/07 gave BOS 10.5" on 0.87" of qpf. Pretty solid 12 to 1 ratio stuff that doesn't sublimate very easily. It was like someone was just pouring baking soda out of the box with quarter mile vis. I havent examined BUFKIT cross sections but just from the soundngs this would probably be similar with H7 warmer in the -5C to -6C range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Why is baking powder better If you like staying power on the snow its better...there's no "better" or "worse"...just what one personally prefers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowMan Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 If you like staying power on the snow its better...there's no "better" or "worse"...just what one personally prefers.Staying power is best. What causes certain types of snow to have more staying power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Staying power is best. What causes certain types of snow to have more staying power? water content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Staying power is best. What causes certain types of snow to have more staying power? High ratio snow has less water. It sublimates and drops from air in the pack. Melting and evaporating the water requires more energy so high water snow pack is easier to retain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowMan Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Thanks for the responses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy4Confluence Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Snow pile retention snob winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 OT but 2/10 looks likes beaut on the gfs tonight. Ginxy ftw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlantStickers Anonymous Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Starting to get more comfortable with the idea of this being a fairly widespread warning criteria system, obviously no locks at this range and there will almost certainly be changes in track to come, but if the ensembles support the OP and the euro comes in similar then we can probably increase confidence in a noteworthy impact for SNE. Interesting that 0z GFS is still a bit SE from 18z, but there seems to be a universal confidence across the board that we see a northward correction as we get closer. Any thoughts on how we can ballpark how big future shifts are likely to be? Other than waiting Til 12z runs lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Looks weaker and se again. Those trends can stop ...At some point the meat shredder/disjointed system cuts accums away from higher end accums . This isnt panic or unreadable . I think i need this disclaimer next to any non improvement model post bc some dont have the stomach for it. Anyway i wanna see the WAA modeled strengthen not weaken any How much more stout could the confluence trend, i mean we are thankful for some but i cant imagine it exertin much more ...could it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 The GGEM is warmer for S SNE. But the track is still southeast. Lose lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Lets see if the confluence can make mpm into madam cleo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Note how juicy this is modeled. Make no mistake about it, waa will deliver and well,well north, don't confuse this with a southern coast brusher with temperatures in the teens. The limiting factor aside from potential ptype issues is dryslot's and probably subpar snow growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Note how juicy this is modeled. Make no mistake about it, waa will deliver and well,well north, don't confuse this with a southern coast brusher with temperatures in the teens. The limiting factor aside from potential ptype issues is dryslot's and probably subpar snow growth. Euro continues to appear SE and cold... should be mostly snow for most of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTWeatherFreak Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Euro continues to appear SE and cold... should be mostly snow for most of us. Ha! I thought the whole forum had gone to sleep. Anyway, so thats good news. Any idea how it compares to 12z run? Any taint up here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Ha! I thought the whole forum had gone to sleep. Anyway, so thats good news. Any idea how it compares to 12z run? Any taint up here? Lots of early birds on here, lol, but it seems pretty similar to 12z with almost all snow in Northern CT. Looks good to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Lots of early birds on here, lol, but it seems pretty similar to 12z with almost all snow in Northern CT. Looks good to me! HFD is about .56" all snow and Bos is .88" all snow EDIT: Boston .92" some more fell after the last panel I posted....enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Note how juicy this is modeled. Make no mistake about it, waa will deliver and well,well north, don't confuse this with a southern coast brusher with temperatures in the teens. The limiting factor aside from potential ptype issues is dryslot's and probably subpar snow growth. Yep, our worry in SNE is ptype before we start worry about QPF. We've seen this movie before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 BOX continues theme of our discussion last evening..It's a Miller B ECMWF HAS BEEN FAIRLY CONSISTENT THE LAST SEVERAL RUNS CONCERNINGTHE MILLER-B STORM-TYPE EVOLUTION TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY. THE SREFMEAN/UKMET/CANADIAN ARE IN PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE ECMWF INREGARDS TO THE EMERGING SURFACE LOW TO THE LEE OF THE APPALACHIANSIN THE VICINITY OF THE DELMARVA PENINSULA SWEEPING E/NE TOWARDS THE40N/70W BENCHMARK. BROAD AGREEMENT AS WELL WITHIN THE POSITION...TIMING...AND TRACK OF THE H85 LOW...WITH THE 02.0Z GEFS AND ENSEMBLEMEMBERS CONVERGING ON THE DETERMINISTIC ECMWF SOLUTION. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Convergence in a BM solution evolved overnight. Quick hard hitting thumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 06 GFS for us NE CT folks is 1.1 qpf, all snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Any timing shifts or discrepancies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 2/23/2008 top analog. This area got 6-10" in that although it shows as 2/22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 HWO plays it cold. .DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY. HIGH CONFIDENCE...MAINLY SNOW...BUT ALSO POSSIBLY SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN...ARE ANTICIPATED TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY. ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE SIGNIFICANT MAKING FOR HAZARDOUS TRAVELING CONDITIONS. Progged highs for up here on are in the 20's for Wednesday. 30.4/19. Bleh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 06 GFS for us NE CT folks is 1.1 qpf, all snow Ginxy--what are you seeing for qpf up this way? Where are you getting that? Thx. EDIT: found the the coolwx map. It's showing BDL with .83 on the 06GFS vs. .77 on the 00z. Probably just noise at this time range, but at least it's noise in the right direction. What is GFSX? is that 'extended'? Looking at the MOS guidance, that is giving AQW a 6 and ORE a 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Ginxy--what are you seeing for qpf up this way? Where are you getting that? Thx. EDIT: found the the coolwx map. It's showing BDL with .83 on the 06GFS vs. .77 on the 00z. Probably just noise at this time range, but at least it's noise in the right direction. What is GFSX? is that 'extended'? Looking at the MOS guidance, that is giving AQW a 6 and ORE a 4. Extended MOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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