CoastalWx Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Yes we do. What might slow it down? It seems like GYX has something to say about that. What should we be watching for? Will some ridging in the Davis Straight be sufficient or will something need to be happening to our ene to slow the flow. It will be interesting to see if that ridging starts to develop over the next few days. TOWARDS THE END OF THE PERIOD THE GEFS AND ECMWF EPS SHOW SOME SIGNS OF RIDGING DEVELOPING THRU DAVIS STRAIT. AS A RESULT ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE IS FAVORING LOW PRES INVOF NEW ENGLAND IN THE MEAN BY LATE IN THE WEEK. GIVEN THE EVOLUTION OF THE HEIGHT FIELD ALOFT THIS MAKES SENSE...AS RIDGING TO THE E WOULD SLOW DOWN THE SRN STREAM ENOUGH FOR INTERACTION WITH ITS NRN COUNTERPART. THIS FORECAST CONTAINS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AT THIS RANGE...BUT GENERAL AGREEMENT AMONG THE OPERATIONAL MODELS AND THEIR ENSEMBLES SUPPORTS LIKELY POP BY DAY 7. WHETHER THIS TRENDS TOWARDS A TROF PASSAGE OR MORE SIGNIFICANT COASTAL STORM REMAINS TO BE SEEN. Well yesterday I stated it's not easy when a storm is involved in the Plains. It's still possible...but it becomes complicated now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Well yesterday I stated it's not easy when a storm is involved in the Plains. It's still possible...but it becomes complicated now. worrisome given how this weekend pooped the sheets...persistence? today's 12z global suite should give a good clue as to what direction this is headed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Yes we do. What might slow it down? It seems like GYX has something to say about that. What should we be watching for? Will some ridging in the Davis Straight be sufficient or will something need to be happening to our ene to slow the flow. It will be interesting to see if that ridging starts to develop over the next few days. TOWARDS THE END OF THE PERIOD THE GEFS AND ECMWF EPS SHOW SOME SIGNS OF RIDGING DEVELOPING THRU DAVIS STRAIT. AS A RESULT ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE IS FAVORING LOW PRES INVOF NEW ENGLAND IN THE MEAN BY LATE IN THE WEEK. GIVEN THE EVOLUTION OF THE HEIGHT FIELD ALOFT THIS MAKES SENSE...AS RIDGING TO THE E WOULD SLOW DOWN THE SRN STREAM ENOUGH FOR INTERACTION WITH ITS NRN COUNTERPART. THIS FORECAST CONTAINS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AT THIS RANGE...BUT GENERAL AGREEMENT AMONG THE OPERATIONAL MODELS AND THEIR ENSEMBLES SUPPORTS LIKELY POP BY DAY 7. WHETHER THIS TRENDS TOWARDS A TROF PASSAGE OR MORE SIGNIFICANT COASTAL STORM REMAINS TO BE SEEN. 2 things can "slow" it down. One would be any type of blocking(-NAO) and the other would be upstream ridging out West. We are still out in la-la land on the models so there really is not much to do other than watch any changes/trends on the models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 worrisome given how this weekend pooped the sheets...persistence? today's 12z global suite should give a good clue as to what direction this is headed in. If you are talking about the VD "system", I will disagree whole-heartedly as we are 7 days out. You could make this statement 3-4 days out but not at 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 If you are talking about the VD "system", I will disagree whole-heartedly as we are 7 days out. You could make this statement 3-4 days out but not at 7. 6 days out if the storm is developing Wednesday. If it is making a subtle shift to less impact in the models, that might be a blip if it disappears today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 6z gfs had a nice evolution but only clips se ma. If more ridging becomes reality, the flow could slow down enough for the streams to wrap in earlier. Still like the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 So much for a storm on this GFS run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 So much for a storm on this GFS run. Upstream kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Upstream kicker. Yep, on this run for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 So much for a storm on this GFS run. I had a feeling that Feb was going to really slow down after that super swfe.....hopefully I'm wrong, but just had a bad feeling about the rest of the month, regardless of how many chances the pattern offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Yep, on this run for sure. Kind of need that s/w to either not be there or speed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I had a feeling that Feb was going to really slow down after that super swfe.....hopefully I'm wrong, but just had a bad feeling about the rest of the month, regardless of how many chances the pattern offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Bob, its just a hunch. I'm not basing it off of anything, and I'm not b*tching. Would I be surprised if I'm wrong, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Gave it the boot this run, Looks like this air mass is going to be marginal as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I thought threads like these were created to prevent "hunches" and "feelings" posts? Lets analyze data and talk about it objectively....if that is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Bob, its just a hunch. I'm not basing it off of anything, and I'm not b*tching. Would I be surprised if I'm wrong, no. Piss poor wording than. Your 1st sentence should be a such. I had have a feeling that Feb was is going to really slow down after that this super swfe. You see how that comes off differently? And as the Icyberg above said, provide some logic/reasoning behind why you feel this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I had a feeling that Feb was going to really slow down after that super swfe.....hopefully I'm wrong, but just had a bad feeling about the rest of the month, regardless of how many chances the pattern offered. Eh, just one gfs run. Still almost 6 days or so out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I noticed the subtle changes last night and full blown now. Hope for swfe juiced overrunning systems with good cold to tap. The others aren't ready to happen yet IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Piss poor wording than. Your 1st sentence should be a such. You see how that comes off differently? And as the Icyberg above said, provide some logic/reasoning behind why you feel this way. No, its the correct wording because I was harkening back to my mind set immediately following the Wednesday event. As for iceyberg, keep out of it. You're not a mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Eh, just one gfs run. Still almost 6 days or so out. Agreed. Like Bob said, though....its been a season predominated by progressive flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Agreed. Like Bob said, though....its been a season predominated by progressive flow. No doubt about that. I gave my reasons yeaterday as to why it may be a thread the needle deal, but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 No doubt about that. I gave my reasons yeaterday as to why it may be a thread the needle deal, but we'll see. I read that. Very illuminating, albeit concise. Wave over the planes acts as a dual deterrent by warming the mid levels, and assuming the role of kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I read that. Very illuminating, albeit concise. Wave over the planes acts as a dual deterrent by warming the mid levels, and assuming the role of kicker. Never good to have warm air advection ahead of any low moving up from the south lol. The GEFS definitely had that srn system a little more concise as compared to the op run. It has a couple of days to work itself out, but obviously wise to have a few yellow flags up with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 7, 2014 Author Share Posted February 7, 2014 Euro manages to thread the needle for a moderate snow event in SNE next week on the 13th. Still a pretty precarious look, but worth keeping an eye on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Never good to have warm air advection ahead of any low moving up from the south lol. The GEFS definitely had that srn system a little more concise as compared to the op run. It has a couple of days to work itself out, but obviously wise to have a few yellow flags to go with this.Ya tbh the future (next ten days) looks boring. That vday system looks like if it were to amp up enough to reach sne , it would be mild. It had a look of ....meh temps for most. The end of Feb is up for grabs with March, depending on any blocking and of course the persistence of any +EPO or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaf Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Euro manages to thread the needle for a moderate snow event in SNE next week on the 13th. Still a pretty precarious look, but worth keeping an eye on. Does it clip SNE after hitting the Mid-Atl hard? Wxrisk.com ** ALERT ** 12Z EURO & CMC HOLD COURSE !! .. Hammers Middle Atlantic region with 12" + snow for 5th run in a rowWOOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Does it clip SNE after hitting the Mid-Atl hard? Wxrisk.com ** ALERT ** 12Z EURO & CMC HOLD COURSE !! .. Hammers Middle Atlantic region with 12" + snow for 5th run in a rowWOOF If it would close off further north possibly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Does it clip SNE after hitting the Mid-Atl hard? Wxrisk.com ** ALERT ** 12Z EURO & CMC HOLD COURSE !! .. Hammers Middle Atlantic region with 12" + snow for 5th run in a row WOOF Am I looking at the same CMC model that he is at 12z? Hammering or a chance of rain or snow showers with a high near 40F? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neblizzard Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Euro manages to thread the needle for a moderate snow event in SNE next week on the 13th. Still a pretty precarious look, but worth keeping an eye on. The set up looks very fragile to me. The flow is progressive off the pacific. Is there any hint of a Davis Straights block on this run ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Ya tbh the future (next ten days) looks boring . That vday system looks like if it were to amp up enough to reach sne , it would be mild. It had a look of ....meh temps for most. The end of Feb is up for grabs with March, depending on any blocking and of course the persistence of any +EPO or not. Well kind of early. Up until today I was intrigued with the pattern. It's never wise to have one run change the outlook so we will wait and see how it shakes out over the next week. It's certainly not unprecedented to have a quiet stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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